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Real Estate reality check for me today

#1 Post by kusch » Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:50 am

I am financing a 2nd home for one of my customers. The home he is purchasing is in Florida. I cannot believe the "fees" charged in that state.

Mortgage recording fee is about 5 times more than it would cost to record the same mortgage here.

State Tax/Stamps for the mortgage and deed combined are about 1% of purchase price--there are no State Tax/stamps here.

He is being charged 1.5% (of purchase price) by the title company for a "closing"fee. Here he would pay $150.00

I have completed financing for homes in AZ and I do not remember that state having these kind of fees.

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Re: Real Estate reality check for me today

#2 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:02 am

kusch wrote:I am financing a 2nd home for one of my customers. The home he is purchasing is in Florida. I cannot believe the "fees" charged in that state.

Mortgage recording fee is about 5 times more than it would cost to record the same mortgage here.

State Tax/Stamps for the mortgage and deed combined are about 1% of purchase price--there are no State Tax/stamps here.

He is being charged 1.5% (of purchase price) by the title company for a "closing"fee. Here he would pay $150.00

I have completed financing for homes in AZ and I do not remember that state having these kind of fees.
its costs $3.70 per thousand to record a deed here, Mortgages are $10.00
If I could get 1.5% for a closing fee I'd be willing to do real estate again, title insurance is way less than that.
Suitguy is not bitter.

feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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Re: Real Estate reality check for me today

#3 Post by kusch » Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:19 am

themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:
kusch wrote:I am financing a 2nd home for one of my customers. The home he is purchasing is in Florida. I cannot believe the "fees" charged in that state.

Mortgage recording fee is about 5 times more than it would cost to record the same mortgage here.

State Tax/Stamps for the mortgage and deed combined are about 1% of purchase price--there are no State Tax/stamps here.

He is being charged 1.5% (of purchase price) by the title company for a "closing"fee. Here he would pay $150.00

I have completed financing for homes in AZ and I do not remember that state having these kind of fees.
its costs $3.70 per thousand to record a deed here, Mortgages are $10.00
If I could get 1.5% for a closing fee I'd be willing to do real estate again, title insurance is way less than that.
So the $3.70/1000 is a state tax/stamp thing? Our mortgages are $10 for the first page and $3/page after that--same for a deed which are usually one or two pages.

tmitsss---the closing fee was in addition to his title insurance. (we require a lenders policy--and he is buying an owners.) What can I say, that friggin closing fee was right there on his purchase agreement that he signed---sigh.

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#4 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:58 am

So the $3.70/1000 is a state tax/stamp thing? Our mortgages are $10 for the first page and $3/page after that--same for a deed which are usually one or two pages.
The State and County share the documentary stamp revenue. When I started practicing law the tax stamps applied to mortgages too. Deeds and mortgages cost $10 for the first 4 pages and $1 per page after that for the recording fee.

What can I say, that friggin closing fee was right there on his purchase agreement that he signed---sigh.
And how much did his realtor get for letting him sign that?
Suitguy is not bitter.

feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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#5 Post by MarleysGh0st » Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:11 pm

kusch wrote: tmitsss---the closing fee was in addition to his title insurance. (we require a lenders policy--and he is buying an owners.) What can I say, that friggin closing fee was right there on his purchase agreement that he signed---sigh.
So the buyer paid for the title search and title insurance and then the place wants that extra fee...just because???

I swear that real estate lawyers must pull random people off the street to line up for a check, whenever there's a closing! :evil:
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#6 Post by kusch » Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:42 pm

themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:
So the $3.70/1000 is a state tax/stamp thing? Our mortgages are $10 for the first page and $3/page after that--same for a deed which are usually one or two pages.
The State and County share the documentary stamp revenue. When I started practicing law the tax stamps applied to mortgages too. Deeds and mortgages cost $10 for the first 4 pages and $1 per page after that for the recording fee.

What can I say, that friggin closing fee was right there on his purchase agreement that he signed---sigh.
And how much did his realtor get for letting him sign that?
Just 7%. :shock:

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#7 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:50 pm

MarleysGh0st wrote: I swear that real estate lawyers must pull random people off the street to line up for a check, whenever there's a closing! :evil:
Marley, Its the Real Estate Agents, and the mortgage brokers (I did not say mortgage bankers, there at least used to be a difference) doing this. I doubt Florida even requires a lawyer to participate in the closing, and the buyer should consult a lawyer before the contract is signed not afterwards when its too late.
Suitguy is not bitter.

feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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