This is pretty scary

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kayrharris · #1 Post by **kayrharris** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:38 am

I'm not making this up. Third graders plot to kill teacher!

http://tinyurl.com/25fj3j

PlacentiaSoccerMom · #2 Post by **PlacentiaSoccerMom** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:38 am

The article mentions that the kids have learning disabilities. In our district the kids with disabilities have IEPs. If they have IEPs they are pretty much immune from punishment.

Appa23 · #3 Post by **Appa23** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:06 am

PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:The article mentions that the kids have learning disabilities. In our district the kids with disabilities have IEPs. If they have IEPs they are pretty much immune from punishment.

As a former attorney for a school district, this is pretty much incorrect.

You can punish within the context of an IEP.

I even oversaw suspensions of kids with IEPs.

PlacentiaSoccerMom · #4 Post by **PlacentiaSoccerMom** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:11 am

Appa23 wrote:
PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:The article mentions that the kids have learning disabilities. In our district the kids with disabilities have IEPs. If they have IEPs they are pretty much immune from punishment.
As a former attorney for a school district, this is pretty much not correct.

You can punish within the context of an IEP.

I even oversaw suspensions of kids with IEPs.

My friend's son has an IEP and she has told me that he can pretty much get away with anything without being punished by the school.

Maybe things are different in California?

franktangredi · #5 Post by **franktangredi** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:14 am

PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:Maybe things are different in California?

The above statement has so many applications....

PlacentiaSoccerMom · #6 Post by **PlacentiaSoccerMom** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:15 am

franktangredi wrote:
PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:Maybe things are different in California?
The above statement has so many applications....

Yeah, I know.

Appa23 · #7 Post by **Appa23** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:16 am

PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote: Maybe things are different in California?

Ladies and gentleman, your winner of the "Massive Understatement of the Year" award.

peacock2121 · #8 Post by **peacock2121** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:37 am

All of my sisters students have IEPs. Many have been punished in many ways. Some have been expelled.

kayrharris · #9 Post by **kayrharris** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:10 am

I had to read up on IEP's, but I don't see where discipline is addressed anywhere. Maybe I just looked in the wrong places.

andrewjackson · #10 Post by **andrewjackson** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:25 am

I had students with IEPs. Some IEPs dealt with punishments but mostly they were instructional guidelines. Kids that could have someone read a test out loud or not have any time limits, that kind of thing. Every single special ed, ESL, and handicapped student had one.

The tricky part of IEP students and punishments is that usually it means you have to have committee meetings that include the child's guardians and sometimes state-appointed representatives. So, in fact, punishments were much less often given to students with IEPs just because it was a big hassle. I was part of IEP conferences, though, that expelled, suspended, and transfered students. It can be done.