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#76 Post by ToLiveIsToFly » Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:53 pm

A-14. “It's funny how some distance/Makes everything seem small/And the fears that once controlled me/Can't get to me at all!”
LATE TO THE PARTY, BUT IS THERE A REASON THIS ISN'T IDINA MENZEL?

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Re: Game #157: Encore

#77 Post by mellytu74 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:35 pm

ToLiveIsToFly wrote:A-14. “It's funny how some distance/Makes everything seem small/And the fears that once controlled me/Can't get to me at all!”
LATE TO THE PARTY, BUT IS THERE A REASON THIS ISN'T IDINA MENZEL?
As far as I can tell, no one has ventured a guess on this one.

So, the reason is no one has guessed her -- or anyone else.

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Re: Game #157: thursday night

#78 Post by mellytu74 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:41 pm

Adding my answers/guesses from this afternoon, Ellen Burstyn and Idina Menzel.

Game #157: Encore

Identify the 80 actors in List A and the 40 movies in List B. (For questions A-1 and A-2, you need to identify both actors involved in the given dialogue; every other clue after that is a quotation.) Then, pair one actor with one movie according to a Tangredi, or principle you must discover for yourself. There will be a total of 87 pairs.

Seven actors will be used twice. Thirteen movies will be used twice, ten will be used three times, one will be used four times, one will be used six times, and one will be used seven (!) times.

A-1. KATHARINE HEPBURN
A-2. JUDY HOLIDAY

A-3. This actress completes the following list: Cate Blanchett, Robert DeNiro, Paul Newman, Joe Pesci.

ELLEN BURSTYN

A-4. ROBERT REDFORD

A-5. This one-time WWI intelligence officer was a lifelong friend of the man who wrote the score for the musical in Clue B-33.

MONTY WOOLLEY?

A-6. MERCEDES RUEHL
A-7. PAUL SORVINO
A-8. DOROTHY MCGUIRE

A-9. The stabbing death of this actor is one of the most closely analyzed sequences in Francois Truffaut’s celebrated interview with Alfred Hitchcock.

Someone from SABOTAGE - Oscar Holmolka? John Loder? It has been decades since I've seen it.

A-10. JASON ROBARDS
A-11. CHARLES WINNINGER
A-12. RICHARD CASTELLANO
A-13. JOSEPHINE HULL

A-14. “It's funny how some distance/Makes everything seem small/And the fears that once controlled me/Can't get to me at all!”

IDINA MENZEL?

A-15. MILDRED DUNNOCK
A-16. PAUL FORD

A-17. This Canadian actor’s divorce from his second wife provided the inspiration for one of the films quoted above.

A-18. HERMONINE GINGOLD
A-19. LEE GRANT
A-20. BURL IVES
A-21. PATTY DUKE
A-22. YUL BRYNNER
A-23. ALICE PEARCE
A-24. WALTER MATTHAU

A-25. EILEEN HECKART
A-26. MATTHEW BRODERICK
A-27. MARTHA SCOTT

A-28. “I think people should mate for life, like pigeons or Catholics.”

WOODY ALLEN

A-29. PATRICIA COLLINGE
A-30. MORGAN FREEMAN
A-31. EDDIE FOY, JR.
A-32. LEE TRACY
A-33. ETHEL WATERS
A-34. JOSE FERRER
A-35. RALPH BELLAMY
A-36. ETHEL MERMAN
A-37. TOM EWELL
A-38. HARVEY FIERSTEIN

A-39. This actor appeared in films based on novels by Louisa May Alcott, Sinclair Lewis, Rudyard Kipling, Jules Verne, and Joseph Conrad.

A-40. “You are a caged lion! But lions can't be captive their entire lives. They have to be free to roam the bush. Free and wild! Your wife is a hot sexy tigress and she's waiting for you to pounce on her! Let me hear you roar, baby, roar! Your body is talking to me. It's hungry for action! I can feel it. Unleash the beast inside you, Jack!”

BARBRA STREISAND

A-41. LOUIS CALHERN
A-42. ARTHUR O’CONNELL
A-43. LEO GORCEY
A-44. MARLON BRANDO
A-45. JOHN WILLIAMS
A-46. TOM COURTENAY
A-47. ROBERT MORSE

A-48. “You only live once, and once is enough if you play your cards right.”

A-49. RAY WALSTON
A-50. HENRY FONDA
A-51. MIYOSHI UMEKI
A-52. ROSALIND RUSSELL
A-53. UNA O’CONNOR
A-54. ROBERT PRESTON
A-55. STUBBY KAYE
A-56. REX HARRISON

A-57. He made the last of his five films at the age of 34 and died 44 years later.

A-58. “Beware. Beware. Beware of the big, green dragon that sits on your doorstep. He eats little boys, puppy dog tails and big, fat snails. Beware. Take care. Beware.”

A-59. JOSEPH SCHILDKRAUT
A-60. PAUL SCOFIELD
A-61. SHIRLEY BOOTH
A-62. TIM CURRY
A-63. JOHN KERR
A-64. ZERO MOSTEL
A-65. CLIFF GORMAN
A-66. BEA ARTHUR

A-67. As far as I know, he is the only man to have ever slept with both Rita Hayworth and Whoopi Goldberg.

A-68. DICK VAN DYKE
A-69. STOCKARD CHANNING
A-70. SIDNEY POITIER
A-71. BARRY NELSON
A-72. PAUL NEWMAN
A-73. HOWARD DASILVA
A-74. HARVE PRESNELL

A-75. She was the first actress ever to be named a DBE.

MAY WHITTY

A-76. JAMES EARL JONES
A-77. MARTIN SHEEN
A-78. LAURENCE OLIVIER
A-79. GEORGE ARLISS
A-80. HUMPHREY BOGART

LIST B: MOVIES

B-1. CIMARRON

B-2. “You know what's wrong with you, Miss Whoever-you-are? You're chicken, you've got no guts. You're afraid to stick out your chin and say, ‘Okay, life's a fact, people do fall in love, people do belong to each other, because that's the only chance anybody's got for real happiness.’ You call yourself a free spirit, a ‘wild thing,’ and you're terrified somebody's gonna stick you in a cage. Well baby, you're already in that cage. You built it yourself.”

BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY’S

B-3. FIDDLER ON THE ROOF

B-4. “I’m a cotton-headed ninnymoggins!”

B-5. HEAVEN KNOWS MR. ALLISON
B-6. ATLANTIC CITY
B-7. THE JACKIE ROBINSON STORY
B-8. FRANKENSTEIN
B-9. A YANK AT OXFORD
B-10. SUDDENLY LAST SUMMER
B-11. THE MORTAL STORM
B-12. THE DIVORCEE
B-13. THE SINGING NUN
B-14. THE BIRDS
B-15. SAVE THE TIGER
B-16. AMERICAN GRAFITTI
B-17. FRIDAY THE 13TH
B-18. AGNES OF GOD
B-19. EVERY WHICH WAY BUT LOOSE

B-20. “Heroes, whatever high ideas we may have of them, are mortal and not divine. We are all as God made us, and many of us much worse.”

B-21. This 1972 comedy-drama was adapted from two different novels by Peter DeVries.

B-22. EXECUTIVE SUITE
B-23. EAST LYNNE

B-24. “Cold are the hands of time that creep along relentlessly, destroying slowly but without pity that which yesterday was young. Alone our memories resist this disintegration and grow more lovely with the passing years. Heh! That's hard to say with false teeth!”

THE PLAM BEACH STORY

B-25. This 1939 western helped cement the mythology that has turned a onetime terrorist into an American folk hero.

JESSE JAMES? STAGECOACH?

B-26. “I was prepared to sue you. I don't know who I am, but I'm sure I have a lawyer.”

B-27. FATE IS THE HUNTER
B-28. THE DEER HUNTER
B-29. SUSPIRIA
B-30. THE AVIATOR
B-31. LIVING IT UP
B-32. THE GODFATHER II
B-33. HIGH SOCIETY

B-34. “What kind of a person drives from Colorado to Louisiana to work in a dog kennel?”
“I couldn't tell you. I walked. ”
“You walked? You walked here from Colorado? ”
“I like to walk.”

B-35. SEVEN POUNDS
B-36. ROOM SERVICE
B-37. POLYESTER
B-38. EAST OF EDEN
B-39. YOUNG MAN WITH A HORN
B-40. ALL ABOUT EVE

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#79 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:49 pm

mellytu74 wrote: B-21. This 1972 comedy-drama was adapted from two different novels by Peter DeVries.
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Re: Game #157: Encore

#80 Post by ToLiveIsToFly » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:05 pm

mellytu74 wrote:
ToLiveIsToFly wrote:A-14. “It's funny how some distance/Makes everything seem small/And the fears that once controlled me/Can't get to me at all!”
LATE TO THE PARTY, BUT IS THERE A REASON THIS ISN'T IDINA MENZEL?
As far as I can tell, no one has ventured a guess on this one.

So, the reason is no one has guessed her -- or anyone else.
Ok. The song is "Let it Go" from Frozen. And the actress/singer is definitely Idina Menzel.

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Re: Game #157: thursday night

#81 Post by franktangredi » Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:22 am

Everything on here is correct.

As for the Tangredi, all I'll say for now is that it operates quite simply, you know where to look, and you'll know it's right as soon as you get it.
mellytu74 wrote:Adding my answers/guesses from this afternoon, Ellen Burstyn and Idina Menzel.

Game #157: Encore

Identify the 80 actors in List A and the 40 movies in List B. (For questions A-1 and A-2, you need to identify both actors involved in the given dialogue; every other clue after that is a quotation.) Then, pair one actor with one movie according to a Tangredi, or principle you must discover for yourself. There will be a total of 87 pairs.

Seven actors will be used twice. Thirteen movies will be used twice, ten will be used three times, one will be used four times, one will be used six times, and one will be used seven (!) times.

A-1. KATHARINE HEPBURN
A-2. JUDY HOLIDAY

A-3. This actress completes the following list: Cate Blanchett, Robert DeNiro, Paul Newman, Joe Pesci.

ELLEN BURSTYN

A-4. ROBERT REDFORD

A-5. This one-time WWI intelligence officer was a lifelong friend of the man who wrote the score for the musical in Clue B-33.

MONTY WOOLLEY?

A-6. MERCEDES RUEHL
A-7. PAUL SORVINO
A-8. DOROTHY MCGUIRE

A-9. The stabbing death of this actor is one of the most closely analyzed sequences in Francois Truffaut’s celebrated interview with Alfred Hitchcock.

Someone from SABOTAGE - Oscar Holmolka? John Loder? It has been decades since I've seen it.

A-10. JASON ROBARDS
A-11. CHARLES WINNINGER
A-12. RICHARD CASTELLANO
A-13. JOSEPHINE HULL

A-14. “It's funny how some distance/Makes everything seem small/And the fears that once controlled me/Can't get to me at all!”

IDINA MENZEL?

A-15. MILDRED DUNNOCK
A-16. PAUL FORD

A-17. This Canadian actor’s divorce from his second wife provided the inspiration for one of the films quoted above.

A-18. HERMONINE GINGOLD
A-19. LEE GRANT
A-20. BURL IVES
A-21. PATTY DUKE
A-22. YUL BRYNNER
A-23. ALICE PEARCE
A-24. WALTER MATTHAU

A-25. EILEEN HECKART
A-26. MATTHEW BRODERICK
A-27. MARTHA SCOTT

A-28. “I think people should mate for life, like pigeons or Catholics.”

WOODY ALLEN

A-29. PATRICIA COLLINGE
A-30. MORGAN FREEMAN
A-31. EDDIE FOY, JR.
A-32. LEE TRACY
A-33. ETHEL WATERS
A-34. JOSE FERRER
A-35. RALPH BELLAMY
A-36. ETHEL MERMAN
A-37. TOM EWELL
A-38. HARVEY FIERSTEIN

A-39. This actor appeared in films based on novels by Louisa May Alcott, Sinclair Lewis, Rudyard Kipling, Jules Verne, and Joseph Conrad.

A-40. “You are a caged lion! But lions can't be captive their entire lives. They have to be free to roam the bush. Free and wild! Your wife is a hot sexy tigress and she's waiting for you to pounce on her! Let me hear you roar, baby, roar! Your body is talking to me. It's hungry for action! I can feel it. Unleash the beast inside you, Jack!”

BARBRA STREISAND

A-41. LOUIS CALHERN
A-42. ARTHUR O’CONNELL
A-43. LEO GORCEY
A-44. MARLON BRANDO
A-45. JOHN WILLIAMS
A-46. TOM COURTENAY
A-47. ROBERT MORSE

A-48. “You only live once, and once is enough if you play your cards right.”

A-49. RAY WALSTON
A-50. HENRY FONDA
A-51. MIYOSHI UMEKI
A-52. ROSALIND RUSSELL
A-53. UNA O’CONNOR
A-54. ROBERT PRESTON
A-55. STUBBY KAYE
A-56. REX HARRISON

A-57. He made the last of his five films at the age of 34 and died 44 years later.

A-58. “Beware. Beware. Beware of the big, green dragon that sits on your doorstep. He eats little boys, puppy dog tails and big, fat snails. Beware. Take care. Beware.”

A-59. JOSEPH SCHILDKRAUT
A-60. PAUL SCOFIELD
A-61. SHIRLEY BOOTH
A-62. TIM CURRY
A-63. JOHN KERR
A-64. ZERO MOSTEL
A-65. CLIFF GORMAN
A-66. BEA ARTHUR

A-67. As far as I know, he is the only man to have ever slept with both Rita Hayworth and Whoopi Goldberg.

A-68. DICK VAN DYKE
A-69. STOCKARD CHANNING
A-70. SIDNEY POITIER
A-71. BARRY NELSON
A-72. PAUL NEWMAN
A-73. HOWARD DASILVA
A-74. HARVE PRESNELL

A-75. She was the first actress ever to be named a DBE.

MAY WHITTY

A-76. JAMES EARL JONES
A-77. MARTIN SHEEN
A-78. LAURENCE OLIVIER
A-79. GEORGE ARLISS
A-80. HUMPHREY BOGART

LIST B: MOVIES

B-1. CIMARRON

B-2. “You know what's wrong with you, Miss Whoever-you-are? You're chicken, you've got no guts. You're afraid to stick out your chin and say, ‘Okay, life's a fact, people do fall in love, people do belong to each other, because that's the only chance anybody's got for real happiness.’ You call yourself a free spirit, a ‘wild thing,’ and you're terrified somebody's gonna stick you in a cage. Well baby, you're already in that cage. You built it yourself.”

BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY’S

B-3. FIDDLER ON THE ROOF

B-4. “I’m a cotton-headed ninnymoggins!”

B-5. HEAVEN KNOWS MR. ALLISON
B-6. ATLANTIC CITY
B-7. THE JACKIE ROBINSON STORY
B-8. FRANKENSTEIN
B-9. A YANK AT OXFORD
B-10. SUDDENLY LAST SUMMER
B-11. THE MORTAL STORM
B-12. THE DIVORCEE
B-13. THE SINGING NUN
B-14. THE BIRDS
B-15. SAVE THE TIGER
B-16. AMERICAN GRAFITTI
B-17. FRIDAY THE 13TH
B-18. AGNES OF GOD
B-19. EVERY WHICH WAY BUT LOOSE

B-20. “Heroes, whatever high ideas we may have of them, are mortal and not divine. We are all as God made us, and many of us much worse.”

B-21. This 1972 comedy-drama was adapted from two different novels by Peter DeVries.

B-22. EXECUTIVE SUITE
B-23. EAST LYNNE

B-24. “Cold are the hands of time that creep along relentlessly, destroying slowly but without pity that which yesterday was young. Alone our memories resist this disintegration and grow more lovely with the passing years. Heh! That's hard to say with false teeth!”

THE PLAM BEACH STORY

B-25. This 1939 western helped cement the mythology that has turned a onetime terrorist into an American folk hero.

JESSE JAMES? STAGECOACH?

B-26. “I was prepared to sue you. I don't know who I am, but I'm sure I have a lawyer.”

B-27. FATE IS THE HUNTER
B-28. THE DEER HUNTER
B-29. SUSPIRIA
B-30. THE AVIATOR
B-31. LIVING IT UP
B-32. THE GODFATHER II
B-33. HIGH SOCIETY

B-34. “What kind of a person drives from Colorado to Louisiana to work in a dog kennel?”
“I couldn't tell you. I walked. ”
“You walked? You walked here from Colorado? ”
“I like to walk.”

B-35. SEVEN POUNDS
B-36. ROOM SERVICE
B-37. POLYESTER
B-38. EAST OF EDEN
B-39. YOUNG MAN WITH A HORN
B-40. ALL ABOUT EVE

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Re: Game #157: Encore - Friday noon-ish updated list

#82 Post by mellytu74 » Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:45 am

OK. Updated with everything correct.

Ventured a guess on A-67. I know he was in Eddie, with Whoopi Goldberg but I don't know if they slept together in that.

Game #157: Encore

Identify the 80 actors in List A and the 40 movies in List B. (For questions A-1 and A-2, you need to identify both actors involved in the given dialogue; every other clue after that is a quotation.) Then, pair one actor with one movie according to a Tangredi, or principle you must discover for yourself. There will be a total of 87 pairs.

Seven actors will be used twice. Thirteen movies will be used twice, ten will be used three times, one will be used four times, one will be used six times, and one will be used seven (!) times.

A-1. KATHARINE HEPBURN
A-2. JUDY HOLIDAY
A-3. ELLEN BURSTYN
A-4. ROBERT REDFORD
A-5. MONTY WOOLLEY
A-6. MERCEDES RUEHL
A-7. PAUL SORVINO
A-8. DOROTHY MCGUIRE

A-9. The stabbing death of this actor is one of the most closely analyzed sequences in Francois Truffaut’s celebrated interview with Alfred Hitchcock.

Someone from SABOTAGE - Oscar Holmolka? John Loder? It has been decades since I've seen it.

A-10. JASON ROBARDS
A-11. CHARLES WINNINGER
A-12. RICHARD CASTELLANO
A-13. JOSEPHINE HULL
A-14. IDINA MENZEL
A-15. MILDRED DUNNOCK
A-16. PAUL FORD

A-17. This Canadian actor’s divorce from his second wife provided the inspiration for one of the films quoted above.

A-18. HERMONINE GINGOLD
A-19. LEE GRANT
A-20. BURL IVES
A-21. PATTY DUKE
A-22. YUL BRYNNER
A-23. ALICE PEARCE
A-24. WALTER MATTHAU
A-25. EILEEN HECKART
A-26. MATTHEW BRODERICK
A-27. MARTHA SCOTT
A-28. WOODY ALLEN
A-29. PATRICIA COLLINGE
A-30. MORGAN FREEMAN
A-31. EDDIE FOY, JR.
A-32. LEE TRACY
A-33. ETHEL WATERS
A-34. JOSE FERRER
A-35. RALPH BELLAMY
A-36. ETHEL MERMAN
A-37. TOM EWELL
A-38. HARVEY FIERSTEIN

A-39. This actor appeared in films based on novels by Louisa May Alcott, Sinclair Lewis, Rudyard Kipling, Jules Verne, and Joseph Conrad.

A-40. BARBRA STREISAND
A-41. LOUIS CALHERN
A-42. ARTHUR O’CONNELL
A-43. LEO GORCEY
A-44. MARLON BRANDO
A-45. JOHN WILLIAMS
A-46. TOM COURTENAY
A-47. ROBERT MORSE

A-48. “You only live once, and once is enough if you play your cards right.”

A-49. RAY WALSTON
A-50. HENRY FONDA
A-51. MIYOSHI UMEKI
A-52. ROSALIND RUSSELL
A-53. UNA O’CONNOR
A-54. ROBERT PRESTON
A-55. STUBBY KAYE
A-56. REX HARRISON

A-57. He made the last of his five films at the age of 34 and died 44 years later.

A-58. “Beware. Beware. Beware of the big, green dragon that sits on your doorstep. He eats little boys, puppy dog tails and big, fat snails. Beware. Take care. Beware.”

A-59. JOSEPH SCHILDKRAUT
A-60. PAUL SCOFIELD
A-61. SHIRLEY BOOTH
A-62. TIM CURRY
A-63. JOHN KERR
A-64. ZERO MOSTEL
A-65. CLIFF GORMAN
A-66. BEA ARTHUR

A-67. As far as I know, he is the only man to have ever slept with both Rita Hayworth and Whoopi Goldberg.

FRANK LANGELLA?

A-68. DICK VAN DYKE
A-69. STOCKARD CHANNING
A-70. SIDNEY POITIER
A-71. BARRY NELSON
A-72. PAUL NEWMAN
A-73. HOWARD DASILVA
A-74. HARVE PRESNELL
A-75. DAME MAY WHITTY
A-76. JAMES EARL JONES
A-77. MARTIN SHEEN
A-78. LAURENCE OLIVIER
A-79. GEORGE ARLISS
A-80. HUMPHREY BOGART

LIST B: MOVIES

B-1. CIMARRON
B-2. BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY’S
B-3. FIDDLER ON THE ROOF

B-4. “I’m a cotton-headed ninnymoggins!”

B-5. HEAVEN KNOWS MR. ALLISON
B-6. ATLANTIC CITY
B-7. THE JACKIE ROBINSON STORY
B-8. FRANKENSTEIN
B-9. A YANK AT OXFORD
B-10. SUDDENLY LAST SUMMER
B-11. THE MORTAL STORM
B-12. THE DIVORCEE
B-13. THE SINGING NUN
B-14. THE BIRDS
B-15. SAVE THE TIGER
B-16. AMERICAN GRAFITTI
B-17. FRIDAY THE 13TH
B-18. AGNES OF GOD
B-19. EVERY WHICH WAY BUT LOOSE

B-20. “Heroes, whatever high ideas we may have of them, are mortal and not divine. We are all as God made us, and many of us much worse.”

B-21. PETE AND TILLIE
B-22. EXECUTIVE SUITE
B-23. EAST LYNNE
B-24. THE PALM BEACH STORY

B-25. This 1939 western helped cement the mythology that has turned a onetime terrorist into an American folk hero.

JESSE JAMES? STAGECOACH?

B-26. “I was prepared to sue you. I don't know who I am, but I'm sure I have a lawyer.”

B-27. FATE IS THE HUNTER
B-28. THE DEER HUNTER
B-29. SUSPIRIA
B-30. THE AVIATOR
B-31. LIVING IT UP
B-32. THE GODFATHER II
B-33. HIGH SOCIETY

B-34. “What kind of a person drives from Colorado to Louisiana to work in a dog kennel?”
“I couldn't tell you. I walked. ”
“You walked? You walked here from Colorado? ”
“I like to walk.”

B-35. SEVEN POUNDS
B-36. ROOM SERVICE
B-37. POLYESTER
B-38. EAST OF EDEN
B-39. YOUNG MAN WITH A HORN
B-40. ALL ABOUT EVE

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Re: Game #157: Encore - Friday noon-ish updated list

#83 Post by earendel » Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:57 pm

A few to add...
mellytu74 wrote:A-58. “Beware. Beware. Beware of the big, green dragon that sits on your doorstep. He eats little boys, puppy dog tails and big, fat snails. Beware. Take care. Beware.”
BELA LUGOSI in Ed Wood's "Glen or Glenda"
mellytu74 wrote:B-4. “I’m a cotton-headed ninnymoggins!”
BUDDY THE ELF (Will Ferrell) in "ELF"
mellytu74 wrote:B-20. “Heroes, whatever high ideas we may have of them, are mortal and not divine. We are all as God made us, and many of us much worse.”
TOM JONES
mellytu74 wrote:B-26. “I was prepared to sue you. I don't know who I am, but I'm sure I have a lawyer.”
OVERBOARD
mellytu74 wrote: B-34. “What kind of a person drives from Colorado to Louisiana to work in a dog kennel?”
“I couldn't tell you. I walked. ”
“You walked? You walked here from Colorado? ”
“I like to walk.”
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Re: Game #157: Encore

#84 Post by mellytu74 » Fri Dec 04, 2015 2:18 pm

I am going to make an executive decision and say that B-25 is JESSE JAMES and not STAGECOACH. I just don't see the Ringo Kid as a character of importance as James. Adding ear's answers - which, along with my executive decision (which Frank will correct if it is wrong), completes the movies.

Game #157: Encore

Identify the 80 actors in List A and the 40 movies in List B. (For questions A-1 and A-2, you need to identify both actors involved in the given dialogue; every other clue after that is a quotation.) Then, pair one actor with one movie according to a Tangredi, or principle you must discover for yourself. There will be a total of 87 pairs.

Seven actors will be used twice. Thirteen movies will be used twice, ten will be used three times, one will be used four times, one will be used six times, and one will be used seven (!) times.

A-1. KATHARINE HEPBURN
A-2. JUDY HOLIDAY
A-3. ELLEN BURSTYN
A-4. ROBERT REDFORD
A-5. MONTY WOOLLEY
A-6. MERCEDES RUEHL
A-7. PAUL SORVINO
A-8. DOROTHY MCGUIRE

A-9. The stabbing death of this actor is one of the most closely analyzed sequences in Francois Truffaut’s celebrated interview with Alfred Hitchcock.

OSCAR HOMOLKA

A-10. JASON ROBARDS
A-11. CHARLES WINNINGER
A-12. RICHARD CASTELLANO
A-13. JOSEPHINE HULL
A-14. IDINA MENZEL
A-15. MILDRED DUNNOCK
A-16. PAUL FORD

A-17. This Canadian actor’s divorce from his second wife provided the inspiration for one of the films quoted above.

A-18. HERMONINE GINGOLD
A-19. LEE GRANT
A-20. BURL IVES
A-21. PATTY DUKE
A-22. YUL BRYNNER
A-23. ALICE PEARCE
A-24. WALTER MATTHAU
A-25. EILEEN HECKART
A-26. MATTHEW BRODERICK
A-27. MARTHA SCOTT
A-28. WOODY ALLEN
A-29. PATRICIA COLLINGE
A-30. MORGAN FREEMAN
A-31. EDDIE FOY, JR.
A-32. LEE TRACY
A-33. ETHEL WATERS
A-34. JOSE FERRER
A-35. RALPH BELLAMY
A-36. ETHEL MERMAN
A-37. TOM EWELL
A-38. HARVEY FIERSTEIN

A-39. This actor appeared in films based on novels by Louisa May Alcott, Sinclair Lewis, Rudyard Kipling, Jules Verne, and Joseph Conrad.

How about PAUL LUKAS? I know he was in Little Women, Dodsworth and Kim. Not sure on the Verne and Conrad, though.

A-40. BARBRA STREISAND
A-41. LOUIS CALHERN
A-42. ARTHUR O’CONNELL
A-43. LEO GORCEY
A-44. MARLON BRANDO
A-45. JOHN WILLIAMS
A-46. TOM COURTENAY
A-47. ROBERT MORSE

A-48. “You only live once, and once is enough if you play your cards right.”

MAUREEN STAPLETON in Interiors

A-49. RAY WALSTON
A-50. HENRY FONDA
A-51. MIYOSHI UMEKI
A-52. ROSALIND RUSSELL
A-53. UNA O’CONNOR
A-54. ROBERT PRESTON
A-55. STUBBY KAYE
A-56. REX HARRISON

A-57. He made the last of his five films at the age of 34 and died 44 years later.

A-58. BELA LUGOSI
A-59. JOSEPH SCHILDKRAUT
A-60. PAUL SCOFIELD
A-61. SHIRLEY BOOTH
A-62. TIM CURRY
A-63. JOHN KERR
A-64. ZERO MOSTEL
A-65. CLIFF GORMAN
A-66. BEA ARTHUR

A-67. As far as I know, he is the only man to have ever slept with both Rita Hayworth and Whoopi Goldberg.

FRANK LANGELLA?

A-68. DICK VAN DYKE
A-69. STOCKARD CHANNING
A-70. SIDNEY POITIER
A-71. BARRY NELSON
A-72. PAUL NEWMAN
A-73. HOWARD DASILVA
A-74. HARVE PRESNELL
A-75. DAME MAY WHITTY
A-76. JAMES EARL JONES
A-77. MARTIN SHEEN
A-78. LAURENCE OLIVIER
A-79. GEORGE ARLISS
A-80. HUMPHREY BOGART

LIST B: MOVIES

B-1. CIMARRON
B-2. BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY’S
B-3. FIDDLER ON THE ROOF
B-4. ELF
B-5. HEAVEN KNOWS MR. ALLISON
B-6. ATLANTIC CITY
B-7. THE JACKIE ROBINSON STORY
B-8. FRANKENSTEIN
B-9. A YANK AT OXFORD
B-10. SUDDENLY LAST SUMMER
B-11. THE MORTAL STORM
B-12. THE DIVORCEE
B-13. THE SINGING NUN
B-14. THE BIRDS
B-15. SAVE THE TIGER
B-16. AMERICAN GRAFITTI
B-17. FRIDAY THE 13TH
B-18. AGNES OF GOD
B-19. EVERY WHICH WAY BUT LOOSE
B-20. TOM JONES
B-21. PETE AND TILLIE
B-22. EXECUTIVE SUITE
B-23. EAST LYNNE
B-24. THE PALM BEACH STORY
B-25. JESSE JAMES
B-26. OVERBOARD
B-27. FATE IS THE HUNTER
B-28. THE DEER HUNTER
B-29. SUSPIRIA
B-30. THE AVIATOR
B-31. LIVING IT UP
B-32. THE GODFATHER II
B-33. HIGH SOCIETY
B-34. THE LUCKY ONE
B-35. SEVEN POUNDS
B-36. ROOM SERVICE
B-37. POLYESTER
B-38. EAST OF EDEN
B-39. YOUNG MAN WITH A HORN
B-40. ALL ABOUT EVE

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Re: Game #157: Encore

#85 Post by franktangredi » Fri Dec 04, 2015 2:50 pm

Everything on here, with or without a question mark, is correct.
mellytu74 wrote:I am going to make an executive decision and say that B-25 is JESSE JAMES and not STAGECOACH. I just don't see the Ringo Kid as a character of importance as James. Adding ear's answers - which, along with my executive decision (which Frank will correct if it is wrong), completes the movies.

Game #157: Encore

Identify the 80 actors in List A and the 40 movies in List B. (For questions A-1 and A-2, you need to identify both actors involved in the given dialogue; every other clue after that is a quotation.) Then, pair one actor with one movie according to a Tangredi, or principle you must discover for yourself. There will be a total of 87 pairs.

Seven actors will be used twice. Thirteen movies will be used twice, ten will be used three times, one will be used four times, one will be used six times, and one will be used seven (!) times.

A-1. KATHARINE HEPBURN
A-2. JUDY HOLIDAY
A-3. ELLEN BURSTYN
A-4. ROBERT REDFORD
A-5. MONTY WOOLLEY
A-6. MERCEDES RUEHL
A-7. PAUL SORVINO
A-8. DOROTHY MCGUIRE

A-9. The stabbing death of this actor is one of the most closely analyzed sequences in Francois Truffaut’s celebrated interview with Alfred Hitchcock.

OSCAR HOMOLKA

A-10. JASON ROBARDS
A-11. CHARLES WINNINGER
A-12. RICHARD CASTELLANO
A-13. JOSEPHINE HULL
A-14. IDINA MENZEL
A-15. MILDRED DUNNOCK
A-16. PAUL FORD

A-17. This Canadian actor’s divorce from his second wife provided the inspiration for one of the films quoted above.

A-18. HERMONINE GINGOLD
A-19. LEE GRANT
A-20. BURL IVES
A-21. PATTY DUKE
A-22. YUL BRYNNER
A-23. ALICE PEARCE
A-24. WALTER MATTHAU
A-25. EILEEN HECKART
A-26. MATTHEW BRODERICK
A-27. MARTHA SCOTT
A-28. WOODY ALLEN
A-29. PATRICIA COLLINGE
A-30. MORGAN FREEMAN
A-31. EDDIE FOY, JR.
A-32. LEE TRACY
A-33. ETHEL WATERS
A-34. JOSE FERRER
A-35. RALPH BELLAMY
A-36. ETHEL MERMAN
A-37. TOM EWELL
A-38. HARVEY FIERSTEIN

A-39. This actor appeared in films based on novels by Louisa May Alcott, Sinclair Lewis, Rudyard Kipling, Jules Verne, and Joseph Conrad.

How about PAUL LUKAS? I know he was in Little Women, Dodsworth and Kim. Not sure on the Verne and Conrad, though.

A-40. BARBRA STREISAND
A-41. LOUIS CALHERN
A-42. ARTHUR O’CONNELL
A-43. LEO GORCEY
A-44. MARLON BRANDO
A-45. JOHN WILLIAMS
A-46. TOM COURTENAY
A-47. ROBERT MORSE

A-48. “You only live once, and once is enough if you play your cards right.”

MAUREEN STAPLETON in Interiors

A-49. RAY WALSTON
A-50. HENRY FONDA
A-51. MIYOSHI UMEKI
A-52. ROSALIND RUSSELL
A-53. UNA O’CONNOR
A-54. ROBERT PRESTON
A-55. STUBBY KAYE
A-56. REX HARRISON

A-57. He made the last of his five films at the age of 34 and died 44 years later.

A-58. BELA LUGOSI
A-59. JOSEPH SCHILDKRAUT
A-60. PAUL SCOFIELD
A-61. SHIRLEY BOOTH
A-62. TIM CURRY
A-63. JOHN KERR
A-64. ZERO MOSTEL
A-65. CLIFF GORMAN
A-66. BEA ARTHUR

A-67. As far as I know, he is the only man to have ever slept with both Rita Hayworth and Whoopi Goldberg.

FRANK LANGELLA?

A-68. DICK VAN DYKE
A-69. STOCKARD CHANNING
A-70. SIDNEY POITIER
A-71. BARRY NELSON
A-72. PAUL NEWMAN
A-73. HOWARD DASILVA
A-74. HARVE PRESNELL
A-75. DAME MAY WHITTY
A-76. JAMES EARL JONES
A-77. MARTIN SHEEN
A-78. LAURENCE OLIVIER
A-79. GEORGE ARLISS
A-80. HUMPHREY BOGART

LIST B: MOVIES

B-1. CIMARRON
B-2. BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY’S
B-3. FIDDLER ON THE ROOF
B-4. ELF
B-5. HEAVEN KNOWS MR. ALLISON
B-6. ATLANTIC CITY
B-7. THE JACKIE ROBINSON STORY
B-8. FRANKENSTEIN
B-9. A YANK AT OXFORD
B-10. SUDDENLY LAST SUMMER
B-11. THE MORTAL STORM
B-12. THE DIVORCEE
B-13. THE SINGING NUN
B-14. THE BIRDS
B-15. SAVE THE TIGER
B-16. AMERICAN GRAFITTI
B-17. FRIDAY THE 13TH
B-18. AGNES OF GOD
B-19. EVERY WHICH WAY BUT LOOSE
B-20. TOM JONES
B-21. PETE AND TILLIE
B-22. EXECUTIVE SUITE
B-23. EAST LYNNE
B-24. THE PALM BEACH STORY
B-25. JESSE JAMES
B-26. OVERBOARD
B-27. FATE IS THE HUNTER
B-28. THE DEER HUNTER
B-29. SUSPIRIA
B-30. THE AVIATOR
B-31. LIVING IT UP
B-32. THE GODFATHER II
B-33. HIGH SOCIETY
B-34. THE LUCKY ONE
B-35. SEVEN POUNDS
B-36. ROOM SERVICE
B-37. POLYESTER
B-38. EAST OF EDEN
B-39. YOUNG MAN WITH A HORN
B-40. ALL ABOUT EVE

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#86 Post by mellytu74 » Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:28 pm

Reiterating what Frank said earlier: "As for the Tangredi, all I'll say for now is that it operates quite simply, you know where to look, and you'll know it's right as soon as you get it."

Game #157: Encore

Identify the 80 actors in List A and the 40 movies in List B. (For questions A-1 and A-2, you need to identify both actors involved in the given dialogue; every other clue after that is a quotation.) Then, pair one actor with one movie according to a Tangredi, or principle you must discover for yourself. There will be a total of 87 pairs.

Seven actors will be used twice. Thirteen movies will be used twice, ten will be used three times, one will be used four times, one will be used six times, and one will be used seven (!) times.

A-1. KATHARINE HEPBURN
A-2. JUDY HOLIDAY
A-3. ELLEN BURSTYN
A-4. ROBERT REDFORD
A-5. MONTY WOOLLEY
A-6. MERCEDES RUEHL
A-7. PAUL SORVINO
A-8. DOROTHY MCGUIRE
A-9. OSCAR HOMOLKA
A-10. JASON ROBARDS
A-11. CHARLES WINNINGER
A-12. RICHARD CASTELLANO
A-13. JOSEPHINE HULL
A-14. IDINA MENZEL
A-15. MILDRED DUNNOCK
A-16. PAUL FORD

A-17. This Canadian actor’s divorce from his second wife provided the inspiration for one of the films quoted above.

A-18. HERMONINE GINGOLD
A-19. LEE GRANT
A-20. BURL IVES
A-21. PATTY DUKE
A-22. YUL BRYNNER
A-23. ALICE PEARCE
A-24. WALTER MATTHAU
A-25. EILEEN HECKART
A-26. MATTHEW BRODERICK
A-27. MARTHA SCOTT
A-28. WOODY ALLEN
A-29. PATRICIA COLLINGE
A-30. MORGAN FREEMAN
A-31. EDDIE FOY, JR.
A-32. LEE TRACY
A-33. ETHEL WATERS
A-34. JOSE FERRER
A-35. RALPH BELLAMY
A-36. ETHEL MERMAN
A-37. TOM EWELL
A-38. HARVEY FIERSTEIN
A-39. PAUL LUKAS
A-40. BARBRA STREISAND
A-41. LOUIS CALHERN
A-42. ARTHUR O’CONNELL
A-43. LEO GORCEY
A-44. MARLON BRANDO
A-45. JOHN WILLIAMS
A-46. TOM COURTENAY
A-47. ROBERT MORSE
A-48. MAUREEN STAPLETON
A-49. RAY WALSTON
A-50. HENRY FONDA
A-51. MIYOSHI UMEKI
A-52. ROSALIND RUSSELL
A-53. UNA O’CONNOR
A-54. ROBERT PRESTON
A-55. STUBBY KAYE
A-56. REX HARRISON

A-57. He made the last of his five films at the age of 34 and died 44 years later.

A-58. BELA LUGOSI
A-59. JOSEPH SCHILDKRAUT
A-60. PAUL SCOFIELD
A-61. SHIRLEY BOOTH
A-62. TIM CURRY
A-63. JOHN KERR
A-64. ZERO MOSTEL
A-65. CLIFF GORMAN
A-66. BEA ARTHUR
A-67. FRANK LANGELLA
A-68. DICK VAN DYKE
A-69. STOCKARD CHANNING
A-70. SIDNEY POITIER
A-71. BARRY NELSON
A-72. PAUL NEWMAN
A-73. HOWARD DASILVA
A-74. HARVE PRESNELL
A-75. DAME MAY WHITTY
A-76. JAMES EARL JONES
A-77. MARTIN SHEEN
A-78. LAURENCE OLIVIER
A-79. GEORGE ARLISS
A-80. HUMPHREY BOGART

LIST B: MOVIES

B-1. CIMARRON
B-2. BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY’S
B-3. FIDDLER ON THE ROOF
B-4. ELF
B-5. HEAVEN KNOWS MR. ALLISON
B-6. ATLANTIC CITY
B-7. THE JACKIE ROBINSON STORY
B-8. FRANKENSTEIN
B-9. A YANK AT OXFORD
B-10. SUDDENLY LAST SUMMER
B-11. THE MORTAL STORM
B-12. THE DIVORCEE
B-13. THE SINGING NUN
B-14. THE BIRDS
B-15. SAVE THE TIGER
B-16. AMERICAN GRAFITTI
B-17. FRIDAY THE 13TH
B-18. AGNES OF GOD
B-19. EVERY WHICH WAY BUT LOOSE
B-20. TOM JONES
B-21. PETE AND TILLIE
B-22. EXECUTIVE SUITE
B-23. EAST LYNNE
B-24. THE PALM BEACH STORY
B-25. JESSE JAMES
B-26. OVERBOARD
B-27. FATE IS THE HUNTER
B-28. THE DEER HUNTER
B-29. SUSPIRIA
B-30. THE AVIATOR
B-31. LIVING IT UP
B-32. THE GODFATHER II
B-33. HIGH SOCIETY
B-34. THE LUCKY ONE
B-35. SEVEN POUNDS
B-36. ROOM SERVICE
B-37. POLYESTER
B-38. EAST OF EDEN
B-39. YOUNG MAN WITH A HORN
B-40. ALL ABOUT EVE

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Re: Game #157: Encore

#87 Post by mrkelley23 » Sat Dec 05, 2015 6:17 pm

Could movie musicals be the missing link?

Idina Menzel (who didn't make many movies, either) made RENT with Rosario Dawson, who co-starred in Seven Pounds.

Miyoshi Umeki made Flower Drum Song with Nancy Kwan, who was in Fate is the Hunter.

Harve Presnell made Paint Your Wagon with Clint Eastwood, who starred in Every Which Way but Loose.

Stubby Kaye made Sweet Charity with John McMartin, who was in All the President's Men

Tim Curry was in Rocky Horror Picture Show with Susan Sarandon, who was in Atlantic City.

Ray Walston was in Damn Yankees with Tab Hunter, who was also in Polyester.

Woody Allen was in Everyone Says I Love You with Alan Alda, who was in The Aviator.

I can't seem to make it work for all the actors, which means it's probably wrong, but it might set off chimes in someone else's head.
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Re: Game #157: Encore

#88 Post by mellytu74 » Sat Dec 05, 2015 8:07 pm

mrkelley23 wrote:Could movie musicals be the missing link?

Idina Menzel (who didn't make many movies, either) made RENT with Rosario Dawson, who co-starred in Seven Pounds.

Miyoshi Umeki made Flower Drum Song with Nancy Kwan, who was in Fate is the Hunter.

Harve Presnell made Paint Your Wagon with Clint Eastwood, who starred in Every Which Way but Loose.

Stubby Kaye made Sweet Charity with John McMartin, who was in All the President's Men

Tim Curry was in Rocky Horror Picture Show with Susan Sarandon, who was in Atlantic City.

Ray Walston was in Damn Yankees with Tab Hunter, who was also in Polyester.

Woody Allen was in Everyone Says I Love You with Alan Alda, who was in The Aviator.

I can't seem to make it work for all the actors, which means it's probably wrong, but it might set off chimes in someone else's head.
You're right - I don't see enough actors in musicals to make it work but a couple stuck out.

Robert Morse was in How to Succeed with Rudy Vallee, who was in The Palm Beach Story

Yul Brynner was in the King and I with Deborah Kerr who was in Heaven Knows Mr. Allison.

But, still - George Arliss wasn't in any musicals. I'm not sure Hepburn was, either.

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Re: Game #157: Encore

#89 Post by silverscreenselect » Sat Dec 05, 2015 11:54 pm

mellytu74 wrote:
mrkelley23 wrote:Could movie musicals be the missing link?

Idina Menzel (who didn't make many movies, either) made RENT with Rosario Dawson, who co-starred in Seven Pounds.

Miyoshi Umeki made Flower Drum Song with Nancy Kwan, who was in Fate is the Hunter.

Harve Presnell made Paint Your Wagon with Clint Eastwood, who starred in Every Which Way but Loose.

Stubby Kaye made Sweet Charity with John McMartin, who was in All the President's Men

Tim Curry was in Rocky Horror Picture Show with Susan Sarandon, who was in Atlantic City.

Ray Walston was in Damn Yankees with Tab Hunter, who was also in Polyester.

Woody Allen was in Everyone Says I Love You with Alan Alda, who was in The Aviator.

I can't seem to make it work for all the actors, which means it's probably wrong, but it might set off chimes in someone else's head.
You're right - I don't see enough actors in musicals to make it work but a couple stuck out.

Robert Morse was in How to Succeed with Rudy Vallee, who was in The Palm Beach Story

Yul Brynner was in the King and I with Deborah Kerr who was in Heaven Knows Mr. Allison.

But, still - George Arliss wasn't in any musicals. I'm not sure Hepburn was, either.
Mr. Kelly had the right idea, but he limited himself too much. It's not musicals, it's Broadway plays in general. Most of the links he and Melly came up with still work, but you have others. as well.

Shirley Booth was in Come Back Little Sheba with Burt Lancaster (Atlantic City).
Bogie was in The Petrified Forest with Bette Davis (All About Eve).
I don't think Rocky Horror counts because it didn't originate on Broadway, but Curry was in Annie with Carol Burnett (Pete and Tillie).
Walter Matthau did The Odd Couple with Jack Lemmon (Save the Tiger).
Speaking of Save the Tiger, Zero Mostel did A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum with Jack Gilford from Tiger.
John Kerr did Tea and Sympathy with the aforementioned Deborah Kerr.
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Re: Game #157: Encore

#90 Post by mellytu74 » Sun Dec 06, 2015 12:41 am

BINGO!!!

Sidney Poitier = Raisin in the Sun = Jackie Robinson Story (Ruby Dee)

Katharine Hepburn = In Golden Pond = Jesse James (Henry Fonda)

Ethel Merman = Call Me Madam = All About Even (George Sanders )

Marlon Brando = A Streetcar Named Desire = A Yank at Oxford (Vivien Leigh)

Josephine Hull = Harvey = A Mortal Storm (Jimmy Stewart)

Alice Pearce = On the Town = High Society (Frank Sinatra)

BTW - At this moment .... on Antenna TV ... a Bewitched with Alice Pearce AND Marion Lorne!! :D

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#91 Post by mellytu74 » Sun Dec 06, 2015 12:46 am

Eddie Foy, Jr. = Pajama Game = Young Man with a Horn (Doris Day)

Monty Woolley = Man Who Came to Dinner = All About Eve (Bette Davis)

Stockard Channing = Six Degrees of Separation = Seven Pounds (Will Smith)

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Re: Game #157: Encore

#92 Post by mellytu74 » Sun Dec 06, 2015 12:47 am

CONSOLIDATION COMING SHORTLY

Nevermind . ... I just saw that it is almost 2 a.m.

So, in the morning. I will clean it up as much as I can before I go to bed.

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#93 Post by silverscreenselect » Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:01 am

I've run into a bit of a problem here which indicates that there must be a further refinement of this puzzle. Harve Presnell also appeared in Molly Brown with Debbie Reynolds (Singing Nun). Also Marlon Brando did Guys and Dolls with Frank Sinatra (High Society). Stubby Kaye was also in Guys and Dolls, so the same match works for him as well. I strongly suspect that there's other multiple matches for some of the more prolific actors on this actor list as well, but they are each supposed to be used only once. So, either Frank overlooked what could be a number of multiple matchups or there's an additional refinement to this puzzle to limit the actor matches.

I think the refinement is that the actor must have reprised his or her role from the play in the movie. So Stubby Kaye is on here for Guys and Dolls, not Sweet Charity, and Presnell is on here for Molly Brown, not Paint Your Wagon. That would also mean that the earlier matchup of Tim Curry for Rocky Horror is correct.

While we're at it, John WIlliams did Dial M for Murder with Grace Kelly (High Society). I almost mentioned this film when I guessed Williams' name; Frank kidded me about using it in some of my puzzles.

Rex Harrison did My Fair Lady with Audrey Hepburn (Tiffany's).
Morgan Freeman did Driving Miss Daisy with Jessica Tandy (Birds).
Matthew Broderick did Biloxi Blues with Christopher Walken (Deer Hunter).
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#94 Post by mellytu74 » Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:43 am

silverscreenselect wrote:I've run into a bit of a problem here which indicates that there must be a further refinement of this puzzle. Harve Presnell also appeared in Molly Brown with Debbie Reynolds (Singing Nun). Also Marlon Brando did Guys and Dolls with Frank Sinatra (High Society). Stubby Kaye was also in Guys and Dolls, so the same match works for him as well. I strongly suspect that there's other multiple matches for some of the more prolific actors on this actor list as well, but they are each supposed to be used only once. So, either Frank overlooked what could be a number of multiple matchups or there's an additional refinement to this puzzle to limit the actor matches.

I think the refinement is that the actor must have reprised his or her role from the play in the movie. So Stubby Kaye is on here for Guys and Dolls, not Sweet Charity, and Presnell is on here for Molly Brown, not Paint Your Wagon. That would also mean that the earlier matchup of Tim Curry for Rocky Horror is correct.

While we're at it, John WIlliams did Dial M for Murder with Grace Kelly (High Society). I almost mentioned this film when I guessed Williams' name; Frank kidded me about using it in some of my puzzles.

Rex Harrison did My Fair Lady with Audrey Hepburn (Tiffany's).
Morgan Freeman did Driving Miss Daisy with Jessica Tandy (Birds).
Matthew Broderick did Biloxi Blues with Christopher Walken (Deer Hunter).
OK. Good refinement. That takes Hepburn off the table for In Golden Pond but puts her on the table for The Philadelphia Story and Without Love.

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#95 Post by mrkelley23 » Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:53 am

Yay! Glad the chimes went off.

Any contributions I made now would be looking stuff up, so I'm going to back off for a while to give those who know their Broadway casts better than I a chance.

Can't believe I didn't piece it together after Melly's post about Arliss, when I looked up his bio.
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Re: Game #157: Encore

#96 Post by silverscreenselect » Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:39 am

Woody Allen was in Play It Again Sam with Diane Keaton (Godfather 2)
Patty Duke was in Miracle Worker with Anne Bancroft (Agnes of God).
Eileen Heckart was in Butterflies Are Free with Goldie Hawn (Overboard).
Cliff Gorman was in Boys in the Band with Leonard Frey (Fiddler).

Frank seems to have taken very well known roles for each of these actors, so solving this shouldn't be all that difficult.
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Re: Game #157: Encore

#97 Post by mellytu74 » Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:55 pm

mellytu74 wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:I've run into a bit of a problem here which indicates that there must be a further refinement of this puzzle. Harve Presnell also appeared in Molly Brown with Debbie Reynolds (Singing Nun). Also Marlon Brando did Guys and Dolls with Frank Sinatra (High Society). Stubby Kaye was also in Guys and Dolls, so the same match works for him as well. I strongly suspect that there's other multiple matches for some of the more prolific actors on this actor list as well, but they are each supposed to be used only once. So, either Frank overlooked what could be a number of multiple matchups or there's an additional refinement to this puzzle to limit the actor matches.

I think the refinement is that the actor must have reprised his or her role from the play in the movie. So Stubby Kaye is on here for Guys and Dolls, not Sweet Charity, and Presnell is on here for Molly Brown, not Paint Your Wagon. That would also mean that the earlier matchup of Tim Curry for Rocky Horror is correct.

While we're at it, John WIlliams did Dial M for Murder with Grace Kelly (High Society). I almost mentioned this film when I guessed Williams' name; Frank kidded me about using it in some of my puzzles.

Rex Harrison did My Fair Lady with Audrey Hepburn (Tiffany's).
Morgan Freeman did Driving Miss Daisy with Jessica Tandy (Birds).
Matthew Broderick did Biloxi Blues with Christopher Walken (Deer Hunter).
OK. Good refinement. That takes Hepburn off the table for In Golden Pond but puts her on the table for The Philadelphia Story and Without Love.
Hepburn's Without Love goes with Room Service (Lucille Ball)
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Re: Game #157: Encore

#98 Post by franktangredi » Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:59 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:Woody Allen was in Play It Again Sam with Diane Keaton (Godfather 2)
Patty Duke was in Miracle Worker with Anne Bancroft (Agnes of God).
Eileen Heckart was in Butterflies Are Free with Goldie Hawn (Overboard).
Cliff Gorman was in Boys in the Band with Leonard Frey (Fiddler).

Frank seems to have taken very well known roles for each of these actors, so solving this shouldn't be all that difficult.
When you picked up on the Miyoshi Umeki/Nancy Kwan pair so early, I thought it was pretty near over. This was a good example of the hive mind at work.

I did try to keep (mostly) to well-known examples you didn't have to be a theatre expert to pick up on. I also avoided Joel Grey and Peter Firth, because I think they would have made it too obvious.

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Re: Game #157: Encore

#99 Post by mellytu74 » Sun Dec 06, 2015 2:02 pm

Sunday consolidation coming around 4/4:30.

Lots to sort out

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Re: Game #157: Encore

#100 Post by mellytu74 » Sun Dec 06, 2015 2:14 pm

franktangredi wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:Woody Allen was in Play It Again Sam with Diane Keaton (Godfather 2)
Patty Duke was in Miracle Worker with Anne Bancroft (Agnes of God).
Eileen Heckart was in Butterflies Are Free with Goldie Hawn (Overboard).
Cliff Gorman was in Boys in the Band with Leonard Frey (Fiddler).

Frank seems to have taken very well known roles for each of these actors, so solving this shouldn't be all that difficult.
When you picked up on the Miyoshi Umeki/Nancy Kwan pair so early, I thought it was pretty near over. This was a good example of the hive mind at work.

I did try to keep (mostly) to well-known examples you didn't have to be a theatre expert to pick up on. I also avoided Joel Grey and Peter Firth, because I think they would have made it too obvious.
Right before Mr K and sss hit it, I was looking at Cliff Gorman. I kept coming back to Boys in the Band and NEVER connected it! LOL!

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