SC Senate votes 37-3 to remove the CBF

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SC Senate votes 37-3 to remove the CBF

#1 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:27 pm

to the Confederate relic room

http://www.thestate.com/news/politics-g ... 97686.html

I would expect the House to follow
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#2 Post by jarnon » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:55 am

The SC House also voted to remove the flag. (They took several votes; the margin on one of them was 93 to 27.) Gov. Haley is expected to sign the bill at 4 p.m., and the flag will be removed at 10 a.m. Friday. It will be put in the aptly named Confederate Relic Room.
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Re: SC Senate votes 37-3 to remove the CBF

#3 Post by elwoodblues » Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:31 pm

That flag was put there in the 1960s as a backlash against the civil rights movement. It is not there for "heritage," and if you wanted to celebrate your heritage why would you want to display the worst part of it? I have yet to hear a non-racist argument for displaying that flag.

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#4 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:50 pm

The Fourteenth Amendment was ratified this day in 1868. South Carolina was the last state to vote.
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Re: SC Senate votes 37-3 to remove the CBF

#5 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:40 am

What do the SC Legislatures of 1868 and 2015 have in common?
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#6 Post by Vandal » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:09 am

themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:What do the SC Legislatures of 1868 and 2015 have in common?
Strom Thurmond?

Wait, he didn't make it to 2015. Never mind.
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#7 Post by BackInTex » Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:49 am

elwoodblues wrote:I have yet to hear a non-racist argument for displaying that flag.
I haven't heard a non-racist argument for removing it.
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#8 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:18 pm

http://thefederalist.com/2015/07/10/no- ... -loophole/


WASHINGTON — The man accused of killing nine people in an historically black South Carolina church last month should not have been able to buy a gun, the F.B.I. said Friday in what was the latest acknowledgment of flaws in the national background check system.

A loophole in the check system allowed the man, Dylann Roof, to buy the .45-caliber handgun despite his having previously admitted to drug possession, the bureau said. Those conducting the background check did not have access to that police report.
Uh, that’s neither a “loophole” nor a “flaw[] in the national background check system.” It’s human error, namely a failure to enter data into the system.
Suitguy is not bitter.

feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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