Concealed carry loophole

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Bob Juch
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Concealed carry loophole

#1 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:04 pm

I am in favor of unlimited concealed carry as long as proper background checks, that are updated, and proper training is done. However I just discovered that there's a huge loophole in the process:

Most states have reciprocal concealed carry agreements with the other states. There are exceptions but that's not important to this. My South Carolina permit was valid in North Carolina and is valid here in Arizona.

There's a company that advertises that they will assist you in getting a permit. For the states that have reciprocal agreements with Virginia what they do is assist you in applying for an out-of-state Virginia permit which requires training that can be done with a Web course. Virginia does a background check but is that for each state or just the one you reside in (and Virginia probably)? The whole thing is done over the Internet except for sending in fingerprint cards.

This leads to a lot of unqualified people having permits.
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Re: Concealed carry loophole

#2 Post by ten96lt » Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:01 pm

Usually when they do a background check, it's for the state you're applying, plus the FBI's background check. If you committed a crime that disqualifies you from owning a gun, you should pop up when they run the FBI check.

Looks like Virginia allows online courses, but they have to be by Virginia certified instructors.
Completing any firearms training or safety course or class, including an electronic, video, or on-line course, conducted by a state-certified or National Rifle Association-certified firearms instructor;
NRA does not allow the NRA Basic Pistol Course to be done online, so would have to be another VA sanctioned course. If instructor is doing the BP course online, NRA can revoke his credentials.

http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_Res ... dgunPermit

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Re: Concealed carry loophole

#3 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:44 pm

ten96lt wrote:Usually when they do a background check, it's for the state you're applying, plus the FBI's background check. If you committed a crime that disqualifies you from owning a gun, you should pop up when they run the FBI check.

Looks like Virginia allows online courses, but they have to be by Virginia certified instructors.
Completing any firearms training or safety course or class, including an electronic, video, or on-line course, conducted by a state-certified or National Rifle Association-certified firearms instructor;
NRA does not allow the NRA Basic Pistol Course to be done online, so would have to be another VA sanctioned course. If instructor is doing the BP course online, NRA can revoke his credentials.

http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_Res ... dgunPermit
Right, the company has Virginia certified instructors.
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Re: Concealed carry loophole

#4 Post by lilclyde54 » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:12 pm

We had a new carry law that went into effect yesterday that allows anyone to legally carry a handgun as long as it is in a purse, enclosed satchel, or briefcase.
I felt the change

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Re: Concealed carry loophole

#5 Post by BackInTex » Fri Jul 03, 2015 6:51 am

lilclyde54 wrote:We had a new carry law that went into effect yesterday that allows anyone to legally carry a handgun as long as it is in a purse, enclosed satchel, or briefcase.
You can carry it loaded? No license required?
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