Phone-A-Friend gender for female contestants

[peacock2121]

Oh, I also meant to help you with one more bit of your statistical information.

Of the two big winners on the syndicated version of Who Wants To Be a Millionaire, 50 percent have been female. Coincidentally, she also is more successful in her profession and makes more money than the male winner, who has no known employment and aspired to "buy new socks," which I'm certain he needed.

Sometimes the facts don't help with pre-planned conclusions.

and - he is weird.

she is a sweetheart.

[Bob Juch]

SOX404 refers to section 404 of the Sarbanes-Oxley act, for which I'm a consultant.

I'm not from Boston, but for some reason I always root for them (and against the Yankees even though I love NY). But I expect the red hot and rested Rockies will win the Series.

Are you for or against ICFR?

[peacock2121]

I said I was done with this thread.

I lied.

[SOX404Guru]

Sorry again to ruffle your wooden feathers peacock2121.

Yes, Bix is right, I am a riot at parties. I know better than to discuss these issues without the excuse of a few drinks in me. But all my friends who have read outtakes find material fascinating (because of the tone).

I'm not a complete jerk, although the tone of my book is intentionally demeaning and mean-spirited for 2 reasons: 1) It mirrors the tone many women take when frequently demeaning men (which is much more socially acceptable), and 2) the intention of the tone is to be provocative in order to increase interest in the subject matter. Much of the facts in the book have already been published and ignored by the media and general population. This tone makes the dry stats more palatable for the Rush crowd and hopefully more difficult for the media to ignore. I'm not concerned with making money, just bringing to light many important issues regarding gender bias that the media has chosen to ignore.

I chose PAF data for October because its Breast Cancer Awareness month and a focal point of the book is the exaggerated media coverage and research funding for BC at the expense of more deserving issues, most notably heart disease.

Sorry again to ruffle feathers, but please realize that I'm not trying to be a jerk for the sake of being a jerk. It's just a desperate attempt to shed some light on these issues.

[peacock2121]

Did you compile stats on the percentage of correct male PaFs to incorrect male PaFs and correct female PaFs to incorrect female PaFs?

Did you compile stats on the percentage of females in the ring of fire who made it to the hotseat vs the percentage of males in the ring of fire who made it to the hotseat?

Your data did not ruffle my feathers. Your choice of provocative words had me not even want to converse with you.

Kinda like listening to Rush.

[SOX404Guru]

Bob, I'm very much for ICFR. I can earn 6-figures in 4 months and spend the rest of the year working on my book at various Florida beaches. I've seen 3 space shuttle launches this year after never seeing one before.

I just feel guilty that it was my industry that created the mess and now CPA's such as myself are taking advantage of the new laws.

But honestly, the ICFR requirements are much too strict even after the SEC/PCAOB's softening under AS5. But institutional investors seem to appreciate the stronger controls.

Thanks for asking.

[Beebs52]

Sorry again to ruffle your wooden feathers peacock2121.

I'm not a complete jerk, although the tone of my book is intentionally demeaning and mean-spirited for 2 reasons: 1) It mirrors the tone many women take when frequently demeaning men (which is much more socially acceptableand 2) the intention of the tone is to be provocative in order to increase interest in the subject matter. Much of the facts in the book have already been published and ignored by the media and general population.

I chose PAF data for October because its Breast Cancer Awareness month and a focal point of the book is the exaggerated media coverage and research funding for BC at the expense of more deserving issues, most notably heart disease.

Sorry again to ruffle feathers, but please realize that I'm not trying to be a jerk for the sake of being a jerk. It's just a desperate attempt to shed some light on these issues.

There's nothing like intentional mean-spiritedness and purposeful demeaning language to further true intellectual deliberation. By golly, you're a genius, dude!

Perhaps my mind is deteriorating, but I wasn't aware that it was more socially acceptable for women to rag on men than vice versa. Then again, I don't live in the lofty towers of academia that you do. Perhaps that's their only source of amusement. Perhaps the targets deserve it. Who knows.

Perhaps people haven't surged to the fore in recognizing this as a life-changing topic to harangue about is because, well, it isn't. I mean, I love shoes, but my wishing that everybody else did, especially my husband, won't make it so.

And, while I am now five years out from my BC surgery and agree with you on the hype accorded to BC awareness, I'm wondering what your point is altogether. Why are you doing this? Are you suffering from heart disease and are unable to get your pledgecard filled up with the force of your scintillating personality and will to persevere? Or are you just an irascible, rude, cranky-ass with an ax to grind? I would never, EVER, describe any disease as more or less DESERVING.

Bless your heart.

[peacock2121]

[Beebs52]

[kayrharris]

If I had a Rec button for Beebs post I'd being using it right this minute!

You go girl!

[SOX404Guru]

No peacock, I wasn't able to "compile stats on the percentage of correct male PaFs to incorrect male PaFs and correct female PaFs to incorrect female PaFs?" There was so many examples of PAF's not answering or being coaxed by the contestant that I felt it diluted the results. Besides, the success of males on the show adequately argues the point on their ability to answer questions correctly.

You won't appreciate what I have to say on the PAF subject, but here's the outtake: [Please don't distribute. Thank you!] [Please remember that I'm not a jerk, I just write like one.]

‘PHONE-A-FRIEND’ REVELATION

The [Lack of Ambition section] demonstrated that of the first 600 contestants on ‘Who Wants To Be A Millionaire’, men won $40 million of the $45.5 million in prize money. I included this information in the [Lack of Ambition section] rather than in the [Lack of Intelligence section] because the fact that men performed much better than women on the show doesn’t conclusively prove (but strongly infers) that they’re more intelligent than women. There are legitimate explanations not related to intelligence that provide conceivable excuses for women’s appalling performance.

The syndicated version of ‘Who Wants To Be A Millionaire’ hosted by Meredith Vieira is also known as the affirmative action version. Women are contestants at much higher rates than the original show due to the desire by producers to appeal to the predominately female daytime audience. These viewers would vehemently argue that men are more knowledgeable than women. Wanna bet ladies? I believe they would feel differently if they had money on the line and were forced to provide an honest evaluation. Well let’s ask the opinion of those who do—the female contestants. Do they believe that their female friends are more knowledgeable than their male friends?

I analyzed the show’s transcripts for the month of October for the first 3 years of the syndicated show. October is the first full month of each season, and as ‘Breast Cancer Awareness’ month, it’s supposed to be the month that women unite to support each other. So do they? Do women support each other as ‘Phone-A-Friend’ or do the female contestants concede that their most knowledgeable friend happens to be a man.

The analysis shows that over 80 percent of female contestants that used their ‘Phone-A-Friend’ lifeline called a man. Even during the month when they’re continually reminded to ‘Think Pink’, women are smart enough to know to go with blue when it comes to winning green.

This is an astounding revelation! Most women certainly have more females than males in their circle of friends. Yet when pressed to provide an honest evaluation of who in their circle of friends is the most knowledgeable, they overwhelmingly select men. This revelation supports the conclusion that women don’t suffer from mass delusion regarding their mental inferiority, but rather they suffer from mass denial.

[Rexer25]

Man, you must really be hurting for money. Rush's publisher is a good target. I wouldn't dare go into a reputable publisher with this. I'm so glad you were able to sift through so many numbers and find the pyrite you need. But you do have a right to publish whatever you want. And you have my word I will not spread these spoilers among the general populace. No free publicity from me.

I still don't know if you are unprincipled or ignorant.

Bless your heart.






(RIP, Molly Ivans)

[peacock2121]

The first paragraph of your outtake pissed me off, so I stopped reading.

Few (if any) here are your target audience.

[MarleysGh0st]

You won't appreciate what I have to say on the PAF subject, but here's the outtake: [Please don't distribute. Thank you!]

I'm just enjoying being a spectator to this debate, but do you want to be posting so many quotes from your yet-to-be-published book? "Please don't distribute" disclaimer or not, this is a public message board and posting here is essentially already "publishing" that text--which might very well be searchable on google tomorrow--without any further distribution on our part.

[TheCalvinator24]

I included this information in the [Lack of Ambition section] rather than in the [Lack of Intelligence section] because the fact that men performed much better than women on the show doesn’t conclusively prove (but strongly infers) that they’re more intelligent than women.

No, it doesn't. It doesn't infer anything. It might imply that men are more knowledgeable in the areas that quiz show writers tend to ask most of their questions.

I infer that your misuse of the word "infers" implies that you are less intelligent than all of the women on this Bored.

[earendel]

I included this information in the [Lack of Ambition section] rather than in the [Lack of Intelligence section] because the fact that men performed much better than women on the show doesn’t conclusively prove (but strongly infers) that they’re more intelligent than women. There are legitimate explanations not related to intelligence that provide conceivable excuses for women’s appalling performance.

Once again you mistakenly equate intelligence with the ability to remember useless facts. The two are not one and the same by any stretch of the imagination. If you want to deal with intelligence, you should look at MENSA membership - compare numbers who take the test, numbers who pass, etc. BAM is not the appropriate place to find data to support your predetermined conclusion.

I analyzed the show’s transcripts for the month of October for the first 3 years of the syndicated show. October is the first full month of each season, and as ‘Breast Cancer Awareness’ month, it’s supposed to be the month that women unite to support each other. So do they? Do women support each other as ‘Phone-A-Friend’ or do the female contestants concede that their most knowledgeable friend happens to be a man.

Once again it depends upon the subject. A woman might pick a man to deal with questions about history, for instance, while a man might pick a woman to deal with questions about fashion. It's not a matter of intelligence. It's a matter of choosing who will fill in the gaps in one's own knowledge.

This is an astounding revelation! Most women certainly have more females than males in their circle of friends.

That is an assumption on your part, not a "certainty".

Yet when pressed to provide an honest evaluation of who in their circle of friends is the most knowledgeable, they overwhelmingly select men. This revelation supports the conclusion that women don’t suffer from mass delusion regarding their mental inferiority, but rather they suffer from mass denial.

<sigh> You just don't get it, and sadly, you probably never will. The ability to memorize data has nothing to do with intelligence.

[peacock2121]

oh yeah

Bless Your Heart

[Beebs52]

Again, what does breast cancer awareness have to do with PAF's? Are you saying that next month men should only be asking men to be PAF's, not only because they're "smarter", but because it's prostate cancer awareness month?

This is the goofiest non-argument I've ever seen.

But, it's entertaining. I'll give you that.

[TheCalvinator24]

The syndicated version of ‘Who Wants To Be A Millionaire’ hosted by Meredith Vieira is also known as the affirmative action version.

By whom?

This type of statement demands a footnote. If I were your potential Publisher, I would never let things like this through.

[Rexer25]

...this is a public message board and posting here is essentially already "publishing" that text--which might very well be searchable on google tomorrow--without any further distribution on our part.

That's the point, Jacob...this is his free pub stunt. Prolly not as good as unfurling a banner from the Brooklyn Bridge, but good enough. He's prolly setting his spammer with the URL of what he considers his most controversial post.

[gsabc]

[Please remember that I'm not a jerk, I just write like one.]

Isn't that Howard Stern's shtick in the radio biz? Pandering to the least common denominator and laughing all the way to the bank? Despite the protestation, I find it hard to believe that this is being written without monetary considerations being high on the list of reasons.

I am reminded of a Dick Van Dyke show, where Jerry had been kidding Rob to the point of anger. Rob was pointing out the dangers of kidding someone who was not so close a friend:

Jerry: And then I'll say "Just kidding!" (holding up hands)

Rob: And they'll say "So what? POW!" (pantomiming a punch to Jerry's face)

[TheCalvinator24]

Women are contestants at much higher rates than the original show due to the desire by producers to appeal to the predominately female daytime audience. These viewers would vehemently argue that men are more knowledgeable than women. Wanna bet ladies? I believe they would feel differently if they had money on the line and were forced to provide an honest evaluation.

I don't know why I'm "helping" you with your writing, but this part makes no sense.

[peacock2121]

I apologize to HoltDad.

He is so not as bad as this guy.

Not even close.

[TheCalvinator24]

The analysis shows that over 80 percent of female contestants that used their ‘Phone-A-Friend’ lifeline called a man.

A person should not be a "that" but a "who" (or a "whom").

[TheCalvinator24]

Even during the month when they’re continually reminded to ‘Think Pink’, women are smart enough to know to go with blue when it comes to winning green.

Although a fairly clever turn of phrase, we wouldn't want to let the fact that the October episodes are not taped in October get in the way of our blindered opinion.