How To Disrespect Your Plus One Lifeline

[TheConfessor]

Dude on WWTBAM just walked away, leaving on the table one of his lifelines, which was the +1. Damn, that's harsh. The guy in the audience (contestant's father) came to the show and agreed to help, but when the contestant needed help, he chose to walk away instead of giving his +1 a chance. Contestant just said "he wouldn't know it," and never gave his dad 15 seconds of fame on national TV. Even though contestant had referred to him as "the smartest person I know."

[jaybee]

How much money did he walk with?

Stupid decision for sure. I wonder if some people reach a certain value of winnings where they are not willing to risk anything to lose it.

[TheConfessor]

I think he walked with a little over 20 grand. Not that the amount changes anything.

[Pastor Fireball]

Dude on WWTBAM just walked away, leaving on the table one of his lifelines, which was the +1. Damn, that's harsh. The guy in the audience (contestant's father) came to the show and agreed to help, but when the contestant needed help, he chose to walk away instead of giving his +1 a chance. Contestant just said "he wouldn't know it," and never gave his dad 15 seconds of fame on national TV. Even though contestant had referred to him as "the smartest person I know."

Well, it's not as if this contestant did something blatantly disrespectful like cowardly ignore a Facebook friend request from somebody that he's known for years, so you're really in no position to question another person's disrespect.

[Estonut]

Dude on WWTBAM just walked away, leaving on the table one of his lifelines, which was the +1. Damn, that's harsh. The guy in the audience (contestant's father) came to the show and agreed to help, but when the contestant needed help, he chose to walk away instead of giving his +1 a chance. Contestant just said "he wouldn't know it," and never gave his dad 15 seconds of fame on national TV. Even though contestant had referred to him as "the smartest person I know."

Well, it's not as if this contestant did something blatantly disrespectful like cowardly ignore a Facebook friend request from somebody that he's known for years, so you're really in no position to question another person's disrespect.

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[TheConfessor]

Dude on WWTBAM just walked away, leaving on the table one of his lifelines, which was the +1. Damn, that's harsh. The guy in the audience (contestant's father) came to the show and agreed to help, but when the contestant needed help, he chose to walk away instead of giving his +1 a chance. Contestant just said "he wouldn't know it," and never gave his dad 15 seconds of fame on national TV. Even though contestant had referred to him as "the smartest person I know."

Well, it's not as if this contestant did something blatantly disrespectful like cowardly ignore a Facebook friend request from somebody that he's known for years, so you're really in no position to question another person's disrespect.

I'm not sure what this is about or how long you've been holding a grudge, but the only place I "know" you from is this board, so I'll respectfully answer you here. Like most other people who post here under a pseudonym, I don't know your real name, and as far as I know, we have never met, so if you are among the hundreds of people whose name I don't recognize who have sent me Facebook friend requests over the years, it is quite possible that I did not respond. No disrespect intended. There's a lot about how Facebook works that I don't understand. I don't know what this has to do with today's contestant on WWTBAM. I just thought that was unusual and some people here might find it interesting.

[jaybee]

I think he walked with a little over 20 grand. Not that the amount changes anything.

The only thing I can think of that makes sense (other than just stupid gameplay) is that he went into BAM with some low expectations. Something like thinking, "If I can make it to 20 grand I can pay for _____ and that will be fantastic". If that's the way he was thinking then once he reached that goal he may not want to risk losing it unless he was 100% sure.

[TheConfessor]

I think he walked with a little over 20 grand. Not that the amount changes anything.

The only thing I can think of that makes sense (other than just stupid gameplay) is that he went into BAM with some low expectations. Something like thinking, "If I can make it to 20 grand I can pay for _____ and that will be fantastic". If that's the way he was thinking then once he reached that goal he may not want to risk losing it unless he was 100% sure.

Maybe it made sense to him. But it's analogous to the memorable moment 15 years ago when John Carpenter had his father standing by as a lifeline, waiting to help. John at least let his dad be part of the experience, calling to say he didn't really need his dad's help but wanted to let him know. Today's contestant missed an opportunity to do something similar.

[tlynn78]

I think he walked with a little over 20 grand. Not that the amount changes anything.

The only thing I can think of that makes sense (other than just stupid gameplay) is that he went into BAM with some low expectations. Something like thinking, "If I can make it to 20 grand I can pay for _____ and that will be fantastic". If that's the way he was thinking then once he reached that goal he may not want to risk losing it unless he was 100% sure.

Even so, like TheConfessor says, it would have been nice to give his dad a shot; he's isn't required to give the answer once he invokes the lifeline, is he? He could still choose to walk away, no?

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

You know what is classy, calling your lifeline Dad to tell him you know the answer to the $1M Question

[bazodee]

There are other plausible scenarios.

Perhaps he never intended to use the +1 but for honor or emotional reasons, needed to ask his Dad to come

Maybe he knew absolutely that Dad would not be helpful on this question and wanted to save Dad embarrassment (perhaps Dad gets easily flustered outside his wheelhouse)

Maybe Dad got cold feet on the morning of the taping and asked his son not to call on him after all (and it's too late for a substitution).

It may have been an act of kindness not to call on Dad... that's all I'm saying.

[littlebeast13]

Dude on WWTBAM just walked away, leaving on the table one of his lifelines, which was the +1. Damn, that's harsh. The guy in the audience (contestant's father) came to the show and agreed to help, but when the contestant needed help, he chose to walk away instead of giving his +1 a chance. Contestant just said "he wouldn't know it," and never gave his dad 15 seconds of fame on national TV. Even though contestant had referred to him as "the smartest person I know."

Well, it's not as if this contestant did something blatantly disrespectful like cowardly ignore a Facebook friend request from somebody that he's known for years, so you're really in no position to question another person's disrespect.

I'm not sure what this is about or how long you've been holding a grudge, but the only place I "know" you from is this board, so I'll respectfully answer you here. Like most other people who post here under a pseudonym, I don't know your real name, and as far as I know, we have never met, so if you are among the hundreds of people whose name I don't recognize who have sent me Facebook friend requests over the years, it is quite possible that I did not respond. No disrespect intended. There's a lot about how Facebook works that I don't understand. I don't know what this has to do with today's contestant on WWTBAM. I just thought that was unusual and some people here might find it interesting.

Many people around here seem to have short memories.... TR should have been so lucky.

I doubt you were the FB friend, because he's just not that into you:

http://wwtbambored.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=31367 (<--- It's hyperlink awareness week!)

lb13

[TheConfessor]

There are other plausible scenarios.

Perhaps he never intended to use the +1 but for honor or emotional reasons, needed to ask his Dad to come

Maybe he knew absolutely that Dad would not be helpful on this question and wanted to save Dad embarrassment (perhaps Dad gets easily flustered outside his wheelhouse)

Maybe Dad got cold feet on the morning of the taping and asked his son not to call on him after all (and it's too late for a substitution).

It may have been an act of kindness not to call on Dad... that's all I'm saying.

That all makes sense to a degree, but there were at least three other family members in the front row who could have stepped in. A little help is better than no help.

And I never would have done what Carpenter did, no matter how certain I was. How many times have you been absolutely sure of something that turned out to be wrong? Not using the 50-50 in his situation was just reckless. But we're still talking about it 15+ years later, so it was a moment that transcended logic and strategy.

[franktangredi]

Dude on WWTBAM just walked away, leaving on the table one of his lifelines, which was the +1. Damn, that's harsh. The guy in the audience (contestant's father) came to the show and agreed to help, but when the contestant needed help, he chose to walk away instead of giving his +1 a chance. Contestant just said "he wouldn't know it," and never gave his dad 15 seconds of fame on national TV. Even though contestant had referred to him as "the smartest person I know."

Well, it's not as if this contestant did something blatantly disrespectful like cowardly ignore a Facebook friend request from somebody that he's known for years, so you're really in no position to question another person's disrespect.

I'm not sure what this is about or how long you've been holding a grudge, but the only place I "know" you from is this board, so I'll respectfully answer you here. Like most other people who post here under a pseudonym, I don't know your real name, and as far as I know, we have never met, so if you are among the hundreds of people whose name I don't recognize who have sent me Facebook friend requests over the years, it is quite possible that I did not respond. No disrespect intended. There's a lot about how Facebook works that I don't understand. I don't know what this has to do with today's contestant on WWTBAM. I just thought that was unusual and some people here might find it interesting.

You don't owe anyone any explanations.

Someone does owe you an apology, but you ain't getting it.

[jaybee]

Ed, you have a much better ability than most as to how to play a game show. One reason why you left BAM with much more than the $20K that this guy did. And if anything, your situation gave you much more incentive than most to walk at a lower, safe level. But you didn't, because frankly you are a better player and had the guts to go for the brass ring.

As to Carpenters final question, I understand your 'use all your lifelines' gameplay logic. OTOH, as I was watching that show in it's original play the final Q was a slam dunk. Like Carpenter, I knew the answer before any choices came up. I'd seen and remembered the 'Laugh-in" episode. As he was 100% positive in his answer, using any lifeline would not get his confidence beyond that 100% certainty. I do think phoning his dad like that was cool. Made for good TV too.

[Jeemie]

How much money did he walk with?

Stupid decision for sure. I wonder if some people reach a certain value of winnings where they are not willing to risk anything to lose it.

Unless the rules have changed, you're not risking anything using a lifeline.

I would never walk on a question with any lifelines left in my pocket. That's just dumb.

[Jeemie]

Is this Pastor Fireball dude for real, or is it all a parody?

[TheNotSoGreatPretender]

Oh, snap! Another non-believer!

[BackInTex]

Is this Pastor Fireball dude for real, or is it all a parody?

Real as far as I know. It is funny how he slams Ed for not accepting a FB Friend request. Back when the BoardArk FB group was created and everyone was jumping on the FB bandwagon he friend requested me and we were FB friends for some time period, not long though. But at some point we no longer were FB friends. So either he inactivated his FB account, or he unfriended me.

I guess I could slam him for friending me then unfriending me. We never had any FB interaction. None. It doesn't bother me. I don't care. I just think it odd he gets his feelings hurt by Ed not doing anything yet he does something for no reason that results in the same situation as he and I and he and Ed.

His FB name (real name?) is Bo S-something, I believe. I can't remember the last name.

[zachhoran1]

His FB name (real name?) is Bo S-something, I believe. I can't remember the last name.

Bo Bielefeldt, who goes back to Usenet alt.tv.game-shows around 1999.