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#1 Post by Flybrick » Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:11 pm

Another case of "taking fire" when it didn't happen.

Then, in his apology during his broadcast, he "misremembers" being shot down.

Pretty sure you don't forget that not happening.

Over/under says he's gone after Friday.

I'm not as sure. Liberals get passes for making up "courage under fire" as did/does Hillary and her arrival under sniper fire in Bosnia.
I'm betting this will be the same result.

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#2 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:38 pm

Why didn't BJ post this?
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#3 Post by lilclyde54 » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:09 pm

Considering the company he works for, he will probably get a pass on his lies.
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#5 Post by Bob Juch » Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:31 am

Flybrick wrote:Another case of "taking fire" when it didn't happen.

Then, in his apology during his broadcast, he "misremembers" being shot down.

Pretty sure you don't forget that not happening.

Over/under says he's gone after Friday.

I'm not as sure. Liberals get passes for making up "courage under fire" as did/does Hillary and her arrival under sniper fire in Bosnia.
I'm betting this will be the same result.
The pilot of the chopper he was on said they were in fact hit by small arms fire. The one in front of them was hit by an RPG, but not shot down, his was not hit.
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#6 Post by silverscreenselect » Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:46 am

Flybrick wrote: Liberals get passes for making up "courage under fire"
A lot of conservatives don't even get the chance to make up stories because they weren't there to begin with, like Dick Chaney and Saxby Chambliss.
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#7 Post by mellytu74 » Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:27 am

Actually, if it were just the Iraq thing, he probably would have just gotten suspended.

It's more than that. AND, with a demonstrated pattern, he will most likely lose his job.

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#8 Post by geoffil » Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:31 am

The ease with which he lied is astonishing given his job. He didn't have any reason to lie and that makes me think he has done this before. Plus his daughter got the role in the live version of Peter Pan so he must have something that he holds over the big brass at NBC. I am sure there are many, many replacements waiting in the wings. He doesn't deserve to continue.
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#9 Post by Flybrick » Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:34 am

Bob Juch wrote:The pilot of the chopper he was on said they were in fact hit by small arms fire. The one in front of them was hit by an RPG, but not shot down, his was not hit.

Not even close to being accurate.

Separate formations split by nearly an hour in time performing completely separate missions.

Interesting that your defense of his making up a story, repeatedly, is this.

A lot of conservatives don't even get the chance to make up stories because they weren't there to begin with, like Dick Chaney and Saxby Chambliss.
True. But did they lie about their non-service?
Would their non-service as run of the mill soldiers have equated to Hillary blatantly lying about, then excusing as a faulty memory, landing under fire as the First Lady of the United States? Me thinks the security precautions for such a person is a bit more stringent than line folk.

Which incident never occured anyway.

If so, then fair point.

If not, then not so much.

We expect politicians to lie unfortunately. We don't expect journalists to do so. And certainly not about incidents like this.

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#10 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:51 am

I would hope all the assholes that knee-jerk the phrase Faux News would actually do some rational reasoning and consider the ramifications of this event.

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#11 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:00 pm

Bob Juch wrote:
Flybrick wrote:Another case of "taking fire" when it didn't happen.

Then, in his apology during his broadcast, he "misremembers" being shot down.

Pretty sure you don't forget that not happening.

Over/under says he's gone after Friday.

I'm not as sure. Liberals get passes for making up "courage under fire" as did/does Hillary and her arrival under sniper fire in Bosnia.
I'm betting this will be the same result.
The pilot of the chopper he was on said they were in fact hit by small arms fire. The one in front of them was hit by an RPG, but not shot down, his was not hit.
The pilot I interviewed on Thursday about Brian Williams is no longer standing by his story.
That pilot, Rich Krell, told me he was flying the helicopter Williams was on in Iraq -- an account now contradicted by several other soldiers.
On Friday morning, Krell told me that "the information I gave you was true based on my memories, but at this point I am questioning my memories."
http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/06/media/s ... index.html
What initially looked like an account that supported some of Brian Williams' war story -- that he came "under fire" that day -- no longer appears to be true
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feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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#13 Post by tlynn78 » Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:50 pm

This thread is hysterical. :lol:
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#14 Post by SpacemanSpiff » Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:15 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:I would hope all the assholes that knee-jerk the phrase Faux News would actually do some rational reasoning and consider the ramifications of this event.

Fat chance
NPR wasn't exactly being nice to him yesterday over this.
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#15 Post by Jeemie » Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:30 pm

Now there's another story that he embellished his reporting on Katrina by claiming he saw the flood waters wwashing dead bodies by his hotel.

Apparently, someone checked and found the flood waters were never anywhere near his hotel.

Also he claimed his hotel was overrun by gangs and also that he got dysentary by accidentally injesting flood waters.

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Dude may just be one of those guys that has to embellish everything. My dad (RIP) was one of those guys. Drove my mom nuts.
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#16 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:42 pm

SpacemanSpiff wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:I would hope all the assholes that knee-jerk the phrase Faux News would actually do some rational reasoning and consider the ramifications of this event.

Fat chance
NPR wasn't exactly being nice to him yesterday over this.
Wow! That's amazing.
From what I heard, ABC, CBS and NBC didn't even report on it. I guess it's not relevant that the anchorman of a 'major' news outlet just makes things up about his personal experience and reports them as fact. He would NEVER do that about anything else. Neither would any other main stream news outlet. (sarcafont)

The 'Main Stream' media is not news. It's reporting stories, either true, embellished or made up, or not reporting things in order to support a narrative and social agenda that they wish to advance.

Who's really Faux News?
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#17 Post by jarnon » Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:03 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:From what I heard, ABC, CBS and NBC didn't even report on it.
ABC reported it after it was confirmed:



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#18 Post by silverscreenselect » Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:19 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
The 'Main Stream' media is not news. It's reporting stories, either true, embellished or made up, or not reporting things in order to support a narrative and social agenda that they wish to advance.
Statements like this are the reason most people don't take the Tea Party types seriously. You forgot to mention how they take their orders straight from Barack Obama who gets his orders from Islamic terrorists and the spirit of Saul Alinsky.
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#19 Post by TheConfessor » Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:36 pm

jarnon wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:From what I heard, ABC, CBS and NBC didn't even report on it.
ABC reported it after it was confirmed:



Flock, you know better than to repeat something you heard.
I heard that CBS and Al Jazeera also reported on it.
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2 ... story.html
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#20 Post by littlebeast13 » Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:56 pm

TheConfessor wrote:
jarnon wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:From what I heard, ABC, CBS and NBC didn't even report on it.
ABC reported it after it was confirmed:



Flock, you know better than to repeat something you heard.
I heard that CBS and Al Jazeera also reported on it.
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2 ... story.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/nbc-ancho ... ce-critics

Has The Onion chimed in yet? I can't remember if they're mainstream media or faux news....

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#21 Post by TheConfessor » Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:02 pm

littlebeast13 wrote: Has The Onion chimed in yet? I can't remember if they're mainstream media or faux news....

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#22 Post by SpacemanSpiff » Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:52 pm

TheConfessor wrote:
littlebeast13 wrote: Has The Onion chimed in yet? I can't remember if they're mainstream media or faux news....

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#23 Post by Flybrick » Sat Feb 07, 2015 4:27 pm

"Down goes Frasier..."

At least temporarily.

No doubt NBC is betting the 'time-out' lets all this blow over and he gets back in the saddle.

But the veracity of his 'stories' regarding Hurricane Katrina and a Israel-Hezbollah helicopter ride might tip this into a permanent vacation.

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#24 Post by Bob78164 » Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:28 pm

Flybrick wrote:"Down goes Frasier..."

At least temporarily.

No doubt NBC is betting the 'time-out' lets all this blow over and he gets back in the saddle.

But the veracity of his 'stories' regarding Hurricane Katrina and a Israel-Hezbollah helicopter ride might tip this into a permanent vacation.
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#25 Post by Flybrick » Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:43 am

Oh, for God's sake, Niles...

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