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Sony pulls The Interview

#1 Post by Bob78164 » Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:45 pm

I'm sad about this. I planned to go out of my way to see this movie, specifically because I really, really hate the heckler's veto. --Bob
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#2 Post by elwoodblues » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:20 pm

I am also sad about this. This is a defeat for free speech.

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#3 Post by silverscreenselect » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:21 pm

Bob78164 wrote:I'm sad about this. I planned to go out of my way to see this movie, specifically because I really, really hate the heckler's veto. --Bob
Apparently, they've confirmed that North Korea is behind this. It's scary to think how many companies might be vulnerable to these types of attacks.
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#4 Post by Jeemie » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:23 pm

elwoodblues wrote:I am also sad about this. This is a defeat for free speech.
Indeed.
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#5 Post by Kazoo65 » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:17 pm

I heard on TV that some of the theaters in my area were not planning to show "The Interview" because of the terrorist threats. I wonder how much money Sony will be losing.
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#7 Post by Estonut » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:10 pm

A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five.
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#8 Post by silverscreenselect » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:19 pm

One theater is going to show a similarly themed movie, Team America: World Police, which had a marionette of then-North Korean ruler Kim Jong Il as the villain.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/t ... ica-759037

I'm wondering what, if anything, our government plans to do about this. If a group of North Korean commandos came into the U.S. and kidnapped Sony executives and made the same demands, I'd like to think we'd do something (although with Obama, you can never be sure). Doing nothing simply invites more North Korean or any other governmental sanctioned cyberterrorism.
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#9 Post by Bob78164 » Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:44 am

silverscreenselect wrote:One theater is going to show a similarly themed movie, Team America: World Police, which had a marionette of then-North Korean ruler Kim Jong Il as the villain.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/t ... ica-759037

I'm wondering what, if anything, our government plans to do about this. If a group of North Korean commandos came into the U.S. and kidnapped Sony executives and made the same demands, I'd like to think we'd do something (although with Obama, you can never be sure). Doing nothing simply invites more North Korean or any other governmental sanctioned cyberterrorism.
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#10 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:12 am

Team America is on Netflix
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feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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#11 Post by littlebeast13 » Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:23 am

Jeemie wrote:
elwoodblues wrote:I am also sad about this. This is a defeat for free speech.
Indeed.
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#12 Post by Lizbit » Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:40 am

That is a scrumptious drawing, Mr. little. You are a lucky two-footer to know a wunnerful artist like Evil Squirrel. Please don't tell him I said that.

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#13 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:22 am

littlebeast13 wrote:
Jeemie wrote:
elwoodblues wrote:I am also sad about this. This is a defeat for free speech.
Indeed.
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We knew KJU was squirrelly but you really captured it.
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feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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#14 Post by Kazoo65 » Thu Dec 18, 2014 7:11 pm

As you can imagine, there has been a lot of fallout on all the entertainment shows about Sony's decision. I heard today that they have cancelled studio tours indefinitely (I wonder if they will cancel tapings of J! and WoF, too-no word on J! bored about this) and the other big studios that have movies coming out on Christmas Day like Disney and Universal haven't said anything publicly yet.

Amazon says it isn't going to put the movie on their streaming service because they don't want the same thing happening to them. Netflix said the same thing.
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#15 Post by BackInTex » Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:18 pm

I find it hard to believe that North Korea has better hackers than our NSA or CIA.
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#16 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:21 pm

BackInTex wrote:I find it hard to believe that North Korea has better hackers than our NSA or CIA.
They don't need to have better hackers than the NSA.

They just need to have better hackers than Sony.

And from what I've heard, it wasn't the North Korean government but someone else who did so with their tacit approval.
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#17 Post by Bob78164 » Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:32 pm

BackInTex wrote:I find it hard to believe that North Korea has better hackers than our NSA or CIA.
I'm guessing that in the next few months, we're gonna find out.

I heard, by the way, around the lunch table today that Sony pulled the movie, rather than going with some kind of limited release, so that it can collect on insurance policies. --Bob
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#18 Post by Bob Juch » Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:23 pm

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BackInTex wrote:I find it hard to believe that North Korea has better hackers than our NSA or CIA.
I'm guessing that in the next few months, we're gonna find out.

I heard, by the way, around the lunch table today that Sony pulled the movie, rather than going with some kind of limited release, so that it can collect on insurance policies. --Bob
Unless the hackers had more to blackmail them with, Sony probably was afraid of lawsuits if a few movie theaters were blown up.

Here's their latest statement: http://variety.com/2014/film/news/sony- ... 201383649/
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#19 Post by jarnon » Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:40 pm

Bob Juch wrote:Unless the hackers had more to blackmail them with, Sony probably was afraid of lawsuits if a few movie theaters were blown up.
Since they aren't releasing the movie as a DVD either, I suspect the former.
Bob Juch wrote:Here's their latest statement: http://variety.com/2014/film/news/sony- ... 201383649/
In the article, Sony's CEO says press reports that the movie will never be released in any form are wrong. We'll wait and see.
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#20 Post by zachhoran1 » Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:03 pm

The theaters will replace it with Cosby SHow reruns.

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#21 Post by silverscreenselect » Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:32 am

A local independent theater in Atlanta has just announced that they'll be showing The Interview Christmas Day on both their screens (it's a small old theater). They came to an agreement with Sony, who shipped them the film yesterday. The Plaza Theater is one of the few in Atlanta at which I don't have a free pass, so I almost never go there. They typically show independent movies that are so obscure that the other art theaters don't play them. I'm guessing other art and independent theaters will also be showing the movie at or around the same time.

I'm sure this is going to do much better business than most of what they show for a variety of reasons.

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#22 Post by Bob Juch » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:09 pm

Variety wrote:It looks like “The Interview” will appear in theaters after all. Select exhibitors are preparing Christmas Day screenings of the controversial James Franco-Seth Rogen comedy, with the Plaza Atlanta theater and Alamo Drafthouse announcing via social media that Sony Pictures has authorized them to show the film despite major exhibitors cancelling screenings in the wake of a cyber attack that debilitated the studio.

There is also growing speculation that the studio will offer the film via VOD. Sony Pictures CEO Michael Lynton stated in an interview with CNN on Friday that no on-demand providers had stepped forward to offer to handle the VOD release, but that may have changed in the past few days with the intense media coverage of “The Interview” situation.
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#23 Post by Bob78164 » Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:34 pm

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Variety wrote:It looks like “The Interview” will appear in theaters after all. Select exhibitors are preparing Christmas Day screenings of the controversial James Franco-Seth Rogen comedy, with the Plaza Atlanta theater and Alamo Drafthouse announcing via social media that Sony Pictures has authorized them to show the film despite major exhibitors cancelling screenings in the wake of a cyber attack that debilitated the studio.

There is also growing speculation that the studio will offer the film via VOD. Sony Pictures CEO Michael Lynton stated in an interview with CNN on Friday that no on-demand providers had stepped forward to offer to handle the VOD release, but that may have changed in the past few days with the intense media coverage of “The Interview” situation.
I wonder whether any of the releases will be in Los Angeles County, which would make the film Oscar-eligible. Best Special Effects (exploding head), anyone?

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#24 Post by Bob Juch » Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:00 pm

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Bob Juch wrote:
Variety wrote:It looks like “The Interview” will appear in theaters after all. Select exhibitors are preparing Christmas Day screenings of the controversial James Franco-Seth Rogen comedy, with the Plaza Atlanta theater and Alamo Drafthouse announcing via social media that Sony Pictures has authorized them to show the film despite major exhibitors cancelling screenings in the wake of a cyber attack that debilitated the studio.

There is also growing speculation that the studio will offer the film via VOD. Sony Pictures CEO Michael Lynton stated in an interview with CNN on Friday that no on-demand providers had stepped forward to offer to handle the VOD release, but that may have changed in the past few days with the intense media coverage of “The Interview” situation.
I wonder whether any of the releases will be in Los Angeles County, which would make the film Oscar-eligible. Best Special Effects (exploding head), anyone?

I will make a point of seeing this movie, whether at the theater or through video on demand. The Streisand Effect strikes again. --Bob
Doesn't it have to play in NYC as well?

At least TheConfessor can see it.
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#25 Post by Bob78164 » Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:04 pm

Bob Juch wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:I wonder whether any of the releases will be in Los Angeles County, which would make the film Oscar-eligible. Best Special Effects (exploding head), anyone?

I will make a point of seeing this movie, whether at the theater or through video on demand. The Streisand Effect strikes again. --Bob
Doesn't it have to play in NYC as well?

At least TheConfessor can see it.
I asked this question (out of idle curiosity) a year or two ago, and the answer I remember is that it has to show for at least a week in a theater in Los Angeles County. One of the theaters that will carry the film is the Cinefamily in Los Angeles, about two or three miles from my house, where it's apparently opening on Christmas Day. --Bob
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