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"Counting Coup and Cutting Horses"

#1 Post by Spock » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:52 pm

http://www.amazon.com/Counting-Coup-Cut ... nting+coup

I bought this book on the trip and it is a little gem.

One interesting (to me) little factoid that I had never run across was that the Sioux raided white settlements in Montana's Gallatin Valley-south of Bozeman, on the way to Yellowstone. I had never even thought of them raiding this far west before.

One other theme throughout the book scratches a long-time itch of mine. I always find it amusing when the Sioux (especially) talk about how sacred the Black Hills are to them. My gosh, they were there a whole 2 generations (about) before they lost them and they kicked out other tribes to take them in the first place.

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#2 Post by Bob Juch » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:56 pm

Spock wrote:http://www.amazon.com/Counting-Coup-Cut ... nting+coup

I bought this book on the trip and it is a little gem.

One interesting (to me) little factoid that I had never run across was that the Sioux raided white settlements in Montana's Gallatin Valley-south of Bozeman, on the way to Yellowstone. I had never even thought of them raiding this far west before.

One other theme throughout the book scratches a long-time itch of mine. I always find it amusing when the Sioux (especially) talk about how sacred the Black Hills are to them. My gosh, they were there a whole 2 generations (about) before they lost them and they kicked out other tribes to take them in the first place.
There's a reason the Lakota are also called Teton Sioux.
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Re: "Counting Coup and Cutting Horses"

#3 Post by Spock » Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:18 pm

Bob Juch wrote:
Spock wrote:http://www.amazon.com/Counting-Coup-Cut ... nting+coup

I bought this book on the trip and it is a little gem.

One interesting (to me) little factoid that I had never run across was that the Sioux raided white settlements in Montana's Gallatin Valley-south of Bozeman, on the way to Yellowstone. I had never even thought of them raiding this far west before.

One other theme throughout the book scratches a long-time itch of mine. I always find it amusing when the Sioux (especially) talk about how sacred the Black Hills are to them. My gosh, they were there a whole 2 generations (about) before they lost them and they kicked out other tribes to take them in the first place.
There's a reason the Lakota are also called Teton Sioux.
Good, we get to do this again. What does the term "Teton" which is derived from "Prairie Dwellers" have to do with the Gallatin Valley in Montana?

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#4 Post by Bob Juch » Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:02 am

Spock wrote:
Bob Juch wrote:
Spock wrote:http://www.amazon.com/Counting-Coup-Cut ... nting+coup

I bought this book on the trip and it is a little gem.

One interesting (to me) little factoid that I had never run across was that the Sioux raided white settlements in Montana's Gallatin Valley-south of Bozeman, on the way to Yellowstone. I had never even thought of them raiding this far west before.

One other theme throughout the book scratches a long-time itch of mine. I always find it amusing when the Sioux (especially) talk about how sacred the Black Hills are to them. My gosh, they were there a whole 2 generations (about) before they lost them and they kicked out other tribes to take them in the first place.
There's a reason the Lakota are also called Teton Sioux.
Good, we get to do this again. What does the term "Teton" which is derived from "Prairie Dwellers" have to do with the Gallatin Valley in Montana?
"Teton" comes from the mountains, like in the national park. :roll:
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#5 Post by ne1410s » Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:09 pm

Teton is French. It means the part of the breast the baby sucks. No really.
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#6 Post by Bob Juch » Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:22 pm

ne1410s wrote:Teton is French. It means the part of the breast the baby sucks. No really.
Yes, so the mountains that looked like tits were called the Grand Tetons.
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#7 Post by plasticene » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:11 am

Bob Juch wrote:
Spock wrote:
Bob Juch wrote: There's a reason the Lakota are also called Teton Sioux.
Good, we get to do this again. What does the term "Teton" which is derived from "Prairie Dwellers" have to do with the Gallatin Valley in Montana?
"Teton" comes from the mountains, like in the national park. :roll:
You know, I'd give the benefit of the doubt to the guy who's obsessed with this stuff. You think he doesn't know the mountains are named for the French word teton? That's just a homonym of the teton in Teton Sioux, which comes from a Lakota word meaning "prairie dwellers", according to Wikipedia et al.

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#8 Post by Spock » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:17 pm

plasticene wrote:
Bob Juch wrote:
Spock wrote:
Good, we get to do this again. What does the term "Teton" which is derived from "Prairie Dwellers" have to do with the Gallatin Valley in Montana?
"Teton" comes from the mountains, like in the national park. :roll:
You know, I'd give the benefit of the doubt to the guy who's obsessed with this stuff. You think he doesn't know the mountains are named for the French word teton? That's just a homonym of the teton in Teton Sioux, which comes from a Lakota word meaning "prairie dwellers", according to Wikipedia et al.
Um, Thanks-I think-LOL.
AFAIK-The "Teton" (derived from "Prairie Dwellers") Lakota were known as that long before they were anywhere near the Gallatin Valley-which came very late in their reign. That was deep into Crow territory and far west of anywhere that I had even thought of the Sioux being-other than a possible intertribal raid..

Keep in mind-The Little Bighorn battlefield (which is far to the east of the Gallatin) was core Crow Country not very long before the events of June 25th, 1876.

Teton Mountains (Lonely French trapper for Big, Nice Boobs) is unrelated to Teton Lakota-other than pure coincidence.

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#9 Post by Spock » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:31 pm

>>>You know, I'd give the benefit of the doubt to the guy who's obsessed with this stuff.<<< Reminds me of a story from the first summer on this board that I have not told in a long time.

We attended a wedding with 2 other couples (both since divorced)-one husband was in trouble for visiting strip clubs and the other had been caught viewing pornography online (he was naked and pleasuring himself at the time so that didn't help).

The 2 wives were venting and Mrs S had a little bee in her bonnet on the way home too. I had recently had a discussion (here or wherever we were) about something to do with Custer(or similar topic). So I was able to play that card as that was/is typical of my online activity.

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