Open Carry sighting

[tlynn78]

We're not really that different.

I view having a gun in the home the same way I view smoking: it's stupid, immature, and dangerous for that person and those who share the same household. If it were merely a matter of gun owners posing a threat to their own safety, I wouldn't have that much of a problem. However, when they or their guns go out in public (and their guns can go out in public should they be lost or stolen), they pose a threat to my health and safety. It's a sorry commentary on today's society (and a warped reading of the Constitution, no matter what Justice Scalia says), that our various governments are more willing to protect me from the hazards of second hand smoke in a restaurant or public building than of the hazards of getting shot.

As the State of Georgia continues to relax its gun laws, headlines like this one will become much more commonplace:

Waffle House Employee Shoots, Kills Customer

That's two arguments in Waffle Houses in the last two weeks that resulted in two murders. I don't think giving even more employees and customers guns will make those restaurants any safer. But, on the plus side, you can't smoke in a Waffle House.

Obviously, the answer is to close Waffle Houses.

[Beebs52]

We're not really that different.

I view having a gun in the home the same way I view smoking: it's stupid, immature, and dangerous for that person and those who share the same household. If it were merely a matter of gun owners posing a threat to their own safety, I wouldn't have that much of a problem. However, when they or their guns go out in public (and their guns can go out in public should they be lost or stolen), they pose a threat to my health and safety. It's a sorry commentary on today's society (and a warped reading of the Constitution, no matter what Justice Scalia says), that our various governments are more willing to protect me from the hazards of second hand smoke in a restaurant or public building than of the hazards of getting shot.

As the State of Georgia continues to relax its gun laws, headlines like this one will become much more commonplace:

Waffle House Employee Shoots, Kills Customer

That's two arguments in Waffle Houses in the last two weeks that resulted in two murders. I don't think giving even more employees and customers guns will make those restaurants any safer. But, on the plus side, you can't smoke in a Waffle House.

Obviously, the answer is to close Waffle Houses.

Apparently, you haven't thought this through. The answer is to close all breakfast-type restaurants.

[Bob Juch]

We're not really that different.

I view having a gun in the home the same way I view smoking: it's stupid, immature, and dangerous for that person and those who share the same household. If it were merely a matter of gun owners posing a threat to their own safety, I wouldn't have that much of a problem. However, when they or their guns go out in public (and their guns can go out in public should they be lost or stolen), they pose a threat to my health and safety. It's a sorry commentary on today's society (and a warped reading of the Constitution, no matter what Justice Scalia says), that our various governments are more willing to protect me from the hazards of second hand smoke in a restaurant or public building than of the hazards of getting shot.

As the State of Georgia continues to relax its gun laws, headlines like this one will become much more commonplace:

Waffle House Employee Shoots, Kills Customer

That's two arguments in Waffle Houses in the last two weeks that resulted in two murders. I don't think giving even more employees and customers guns will make those restaurants any safer. But, on the plus side, you can't smoke in a Waffle House.

Obviously, the answer is to close Waffle Houses.

That would save many lives;

Spoiler

by avoiding clogged arteries

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[themanintheseersuckersuit]

There have now been 74 school shootings since Newtown and still no new laws. What we need is more common sense in our laws and not more idiots waving guns.

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/06/146537- ... e-entries/


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/13/c ... advocates/

[BackInTex]

There have now been 74 school shootings since Newtown and still no new laws. What we need is more common sense in our laws and not more idiots waving guns.

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/06/146537- ... e-entries/


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/13/c ... advocates/

That hurts the agenda. Shame on you.

[elwoodblues]

There have now been 74 school shootings since Newtown and still no new laws. What we need is more common sense in our laws and not more idiots waving guns.

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/06/146537- ... e-entries/


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/13/c ... advocates/

Even if some of those were suicides, accidental shootings and shootings targeting a specific person I'm pretty sure I don't want those things happening at school either. And why wasn't Newtown alone bad enough for us to do anything?

[elwoodblues]

We're not really that different.

I view having a gun in the home the same way I view smoking: it's stupid, immature, and dangerous for that person and those who share the same household. If it were merely a matter of gun owners posing a threat to their own safety, I wouldn't have that much of a problem. However, when they or their guns go out in public (and their guns can go out in public should they be lost or stolen), they pose a threat to my health and safety. It's a sorry commentary on today's society (and a warped reading of the Constitution, no matter what Justice Scalia says), that our various governments are more willing to protect me from the hazards of second hand smoke in a restaurant or public building than of the hazards of getting shot.

As the State of Georgia continues to relax its gun laws, headlines like this one will become much more commonplace:

Waffle House Employee Shoots, Kills Customer

That's two arguments in Waffle Houses in the last two weeks that resulted in two murders. I don't think giving even more employees and customers guns will make those restaurants any safer. But, on the plus side, you can't smoke in a Waffle House.

Obviously, the answer is to close Waffle Houses.

When waffles are outlawed only outlaws will have waffles.

[silverscreenselect]

Even if some of those were suicides, accidental shootings and shootings targeting a specific person I'm pretty sure I don't want those things happening at school either. And why wasn't Newtown alone bad enough for us to do anything?

I would feel much much better knowing that my child had been shot as part of a gang turf war or some idiot horseplay on campus rather than another Columbine or Newtown.

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

Even if some of those were suicides, accidental shootings and shootings targeting a specific person I'm pretty sure I don't want those things happening at school either. And why wasn't Newtown alone bad enough for us to do anything?

I would feel much much better knowing that my child had been shot as part of a gang turf war or some idiot horseplay on campus rather than another Columbine or Newtown.

Then why the need to lie?

And why wasn't Newtown alone bad enough for us to do anything? Isn't that part of the problem, the urge to something or anything even if it won't solve the problem that prompted it?

[BackInTex]

I would feel much much better knowing that my child had been shot as part of a gang turf war or some idiot horseplay on campus rather than another Columbine or Newtown.

Is that supposed to be in sarcafont, or are you serious? I can't tell because that is one of the most bizarre things I've seen here, but then again, it is coming from you. So I'm not sure.

[Beebs52]

Even if some of those were suicides, accidental shootings and shootings targeting a specific person I'm pretty sure I don't want those things happening at school either. And why wasn't Newtown alone bad enough for us to do anything?

I would feel much much better knowing that my child had been shot as part of a gang turf war or some idiot horseplay on campus rather than another Columbine or Newtown.

There are gradations of deadness? I would be fucking furious if my child were shot as part of a gang turf war or some idiot horseplay on campus. Or is the "crazy" person statistically more likely to strike more and better and kill more people? As opposed to gang assholes who butcher people all the time? Bit of a conflict there, dude? Chicago much? Detroit much? Of course all of those gun-wielders passed ALL SORTS of restrictive background checks, as opposed to the nutballs who may have had no overt crazy documentation but who did pass restrictive background checks. NOT saying all did.

This is nuts.

[Beebs52]

I also agree with Beast that something, somehow needs to be improved in the discovery, evaluation, management, whatever of people with serious mental illnesses (that are diagnosed, that is) in hopes of averting disasters.

Unfortunately, that won't curtail the cartel peeps, gang peeps, and general criminal element from whacking people as they are wont to do. And I imagine if y'all outlawed all guns, Molotov cocktails and driving cars with bombs or IEDs into schools would become popular with the crazy underground.

[silverscreenselect]

I would feel much much better knowing that my child had been shot as part of a gang turf war or some idiot horseplay on campus rather than another Columbine or Newtown.

Is that supposed to be in sarcafont, or are you serious? I can't tell because that is one of the most bizarre things I've seen here, but then again, it is coming from you. So I'm not sure.

I would have thought that saying "much much better" would have made that clear. I'm sorry I don't know how to do those little smiley face thingies.

[silverscreenselect]

Obviously, the answer is to close Waffle Houses.

They can't do that. I've got a card that entitles me to a free drink every time I go to Waffle House.

Of course, to get the drink, I have to sign a release holding them harmless from liability resulting from clogged arteries or stray bullets.

[BackInTex]

driving cars with bombs or IEDs into schools would become popular with the crazy underground.

Who would want to do that? I can only think of 5 guys that might, but they are safely locked up at Gua.....huh? You're kidding? Right?

[Beebs52]

I would feel much much better knowing that my child had been shot as part of a gang turf war or some idiot horseplay on campus rather than another Columbine or Newtown.

Is that supposed to be in sarcafont, or are you serious? I can't tell because that is one of the most bizarre things I've seen here, but then again, it is coming from you. So I'm not sure.

I would have thought that saying "much much better" would have made that clear. I'm sorry I don't know how to do those little smiley face thingies.

Whew. Sorry for thinking you were serious on that part. However, what is it you still want done? What does everyone want done that is going to prevent future crazies? What does everyone apparently not want done to prevent the matter-of-fact driveby shootings? What, in reality, can be done? If you say disarm the populace that isn't cutting it.

[jarnon]

I don't see what use it is to argue about which of these incidents are "real" school shootings. They all endanger the public, especially children. It reminds me of equally stupid arguments about what crimes should be defined as terrorism. Removing gang shootings from the list is especially galling. It tells poor kids that their safety is less important because they live in a slum filled with gangs, not a nice suburb like Newtown.

We have to look at all these incidents and think of ways keep guns away from the type of people who are committing these crimes: better identification and treatment of the mentally ill, criminal background checks without loopholes, prosecution of straw purchasers, allowing cities to limit the number of guns a person can buy, etc.

[silverscreenselect]

We have to look at all these incidents and think of ways keep guns away from the type of people who are committing these crimes: better identification and treatment of the mentally ill, criminal background checks without loopholes, prosecution of straw purchasers, allowing cities to limit the number of guns a person can buy, etc.

Unfortunately, for budgetary reasons, we can't put metal detectors in all schools, as we do in government buildings and airports, but putting more teeth into "gun free zone" laws instead of finding ways to allow more "law abiding" citizens to carry guns in more places would be a start.

[Bob Juch]

We have to look at all these incidents and think of ways keep guns away from the type of people who are committing these crimes: better identification and treatment of the mentally ill, criminal background checks without loopholes, prosecution of straw purchasers, allowing cities to limit the number of guns a person can buy, etc.

Unfortunately, for budgetary reasons, we can't put metal detectors in all schools, as we do in government buildings and airports, but putting more teeth into "gun free zone" laws instead of finding ways to allow more "law abiding" citizens to carry guns in more places would be a start.

If I were to commit a crime with a gun I'd be sure to do it in a "gun free zone".

[silverscreenselect]

If I were to commit a crime with a gun I'd be sure to do it in a "gun free zone".

If I was going to start shooting random people I'd make sure it was in a "gun-free zone".

You're repeating yourself Bob.

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

We have to look at all these incidents and think of ways keep guns away from the type of people who are committing these crimes: better identification and treatment of the mentally ill, criminal background checks without loopholes, prosecution of straw purchasers, allowing cities to limit the number of guns a person can buy, etc.

Unfortunately, for budgetary reasons, we can't put metal detectors in all schools, as we do in government buildings and airports, but putting more teeth into "gun free zone" laws instead of finding ways to allow more "law abiding" citizens to carry guns in more places would be a start.

Why"?are gun crimes going up or down as more citizens are armed?

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

I don't see what use it is to argue about which of these incidents are "real" school shootings. They all endanger the public, especially children. It reminds me of equally stupid arguments about what crimes should be defined as terrorism. Removing gang shootings from the list is especially galling. It tells poor kids that their safety is less important because they live in a slum filled with gangs, not a nice suburb like Newtown.

We have to look at all these incidents and think of ways keep guns away from the type of people who are committing these crimes: better identification and treatment of the mentally ill, criminal background checks without loopholes, prosecution of straw purchasers, allowing cities to limit the number of guns a person can buy, etc.

Why aren't there more headlines about the gun deaths every week in gun free Chicago? Detroit?

[BackInTex]

allowing cities to limit the number of guns a person can buy, etc.

How's that working for Washington D.C.? or Chicago? I think the limit is zero in those towns.

In Houston it is unlimited and we almost have fewer gun related deaths that DUI deaths by illegal aliens.

[Bob Juch]

If I were to commit a crime with a gun I'd be sure to do it in a "gun free zone".

If I was going to start shooting random people I'd make sure it was in a "gun-free zone".

You're repeating yourself Bob.

Yes, and your point is...?

[Bob Juch]

I don't see what use it is to argue about which of these incidents are "real" school shootings. They all endanger the public, especially children. It reminds me of equally stupid arguments about what crimes should be defined as terrorism. Removing gang shootings from the list is especially galling. It tells poor kids that their safety is less important because they live in a slum filled with gangs, not a nice suburb like Newtown.

We have to look at all these incidents and think of ways keep guns away from the type of people who are committing these crimes: better identification and treatment of the mentally ill, criminal background checks without loopholes, prosecution of straw purchasers, allowing cities to limit the number of guns a person can buy, etc.

Why aren't there more headlines about the gun deaths every week in gun free Chicago? Detroit?

Chicago has gun permits now. I don't know about Detroit.