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Santa Maria Found?

#1 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Mon May 12, 2014 7:32 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/scien ... 59330.html

More than five centuries after Christopher Columbus’s flagship, the Santa Maria, was wrecked in the Caribbean, archaeological investigators think they may have discovered the vessel’s long-lost remains – lying at the bottom of the sea off the north coast of Haiti. It’s likely to be one of the world’s most important underwater archaeological discoveries.
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#2 Post by littlebeast13 » Tue May 13, 2014 5:59 am

themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:It’s likely to be one of the world’s most important underwater archaeological discoveries.

At least until they finally find Jimmy Hoffa....

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#3 Post by christie1111 » Tue May 13, 2014 6:58 am

I was trying to come up with a clever quip about Flight 340 butwas torn with the 'too soon?' kind of thing.

But I am just thankful that CNN hadn't been covering this all the time the Santa Maria was missing.
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#4 Post by littlebeast13 » Tue May 13, 2014 1:57 pm

christie1111 wrote:I was trying to come up with a clever quip about Flight 340 butwas torn with the 'too soon?' kind of thing.

It's never too soon for me..... though it was the first thing I thought of as well, but had nothing up to my usual smartass snuff.....

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#5 Post by SportsFan68 » Tue May 13, 2014 3:39 pm

I hope it is the Santa Maria and that the researchers find evidence which leaves no doubt.

What I really hope for is evidence that supports Gavin Menzies’s assertion that the Chinese "discovered" the Americas in 1421.
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#6 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Wed May 14, 2014 5:11 am

A mere 150 years but this is of local interest here.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/05/14/wr ... -sc-coast/

CHARLESTON, S.C. – Researchers think they have found the wreck of the iconic Civil War vessel the Planter — the Confederate ammunition ship commandeered by the slave Robert Smalls, who steamed it out of Charleston and surrendered it to the Union Navy....

Smalls would return to Charleston a year later to pilot a Union ironclad in an attack on Fort Sumter. After the war, he served in the South Carolina General Assembly, the U.S. Congress and as a federal customs inspector.
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#7 Post by Bob78164 » Wed May 14, 2014 11:16 am

themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:A mere 150 years but this is of local interest here.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/05/14/wr ... -sc-coast/

CHARLESTON, S.C. – Researchers think they have found the wreck of the iconic Civil War vessel the Planter — the Confederate ammunition ship commandeered by the slave Robert Smalls, who steamed it out of Charleston and surrendered it to the Union Navy....

Smalls would return to Charleston a year later to pilot a Union ironclad in an attack on Fort Sumter. After the war, he served in the South Carolina General Assembly, the U.S. Congress and as a federal customs inspector.
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#8 Post by Bob Juch » Wed May 14, 2014 1:16 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:A mere 150 years but this is of local interest here.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/05/14/wr ... -sc-coast/

CHARLESTON, S.C. – Researchers think they have found the wreck of the iconic Civil War vessel the Planter — the Confederate ammunition ship commandeered by the slave Robert Smalls, who steamed it out of Charleston and surrendered it to the Union Navy....

Smalls would return to Charleston a year later to pilot a Union ironclad in an attack on Fort Sumter. After the war, he served in the South Carolina General Assembly, the U.S. Congress and as a federal customs inspector.
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#9 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Wed May 14, 2014 3:02 pm

He was a Republican
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#10 Post by Bob Juch » Wed May 14, 2014 3:44 pm

themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:He was a Republican
Yep, back when they were the good guys.
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#11 Post by BackInTex » Wed May 14, 2014 4:56 pm

Bob Juch wrote:
themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:He was a Republican
Yep, back when they were the good guys.

No, back when personal accountability, the rule of law, and the Constitution meant something.
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#12 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Wed May 14, 2014 6:13 pm

BackInTex wrote:
Bob Juch wrote:
themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:He was a Republican
Yep, back when they were the good guys.

No, back when personal accountability, the rule of law, and the Constitution meant something.
And equality under law
Suitguy is not bitter.

feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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