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#26 Post by BackInTex » Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:32 pm

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ghostjmf wrote:Just for the record (oh why am I getting into this) the girlfriend is a girlfriend, not a whore. A whore sells their sexual services for money. Just to define things here. Though you know that. There's no record, I don't think, of this girlfriend exacting a price for her services. If her boyfriend, who happens to be married, which makes him an adulterer, by definition, gives her stuff, so be it.

LOL - if you've seen photos of him, and you've seen photos of her, you'd know there was most definitely a 'price' for services rendered.
Yep. There's no money, there's no honey. Know whadda mean Vern?
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#27 Post by BackInTex » Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:35 pm

Bob Juch wrote:I'm looking for my next contract and today am dealing with a "Kathy Wilson" who has an almost impossible to understand Indian accent. :roll:


Is Peggy her bro, er, sister?
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#28 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:48 pm

tlynn78 wrote:
ghostjmf wrote:Just for the record (oh why am I getting into this) the girlfriend is a girlfriend, not a whore. A whore sells their sexual services for money. Just to define things here. Though you know that. There's no record, I don't think, of this girlfriend exacting a price for her services. If her boyfriend, who happens to be married, which makes him an adulterer, by definition, gives her stuff, so be it.

LOL - if you've seen photos of him, and you've seen photos of her, you'd know there was most definitely a 'price' for services rendered.
The word we are looking for is Hypergamy (in its broadest sense) (hee hee I said broad)
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feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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#29 Post by TheConfessor » Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:32 pm

zachhoran1 wrote:I might get banned from the J! board if I accidentally award cyberial cigar ocho on jboard.tv to Julia Collins for being the first to win cyberial cigar ocho for winning today's J! game.
There have been online rumors that she will win 20 games, or at least someone will. I have no inside information about this. I was at the taping of the Decades tournament and heard no mention of Julia or any other big winner. She seems like a good player, but all regular contestants appear very beatable after watching the best of the best play each other.

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#30 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:36 pm

The Sterling story is not that we found a bigot and dragged him to the gallows in the middle of the marketplace of ideas. The Sterling story is about how there is no more privacy. We live in a world where you can share your intimate photos with your lover, and they will wind up on a "revenge porn" website.
We live in a world where our intimate conversations will be recorded and blasted to billions of listeners. We live in a world where, say a gold digger can spy on her sugar daddy, and the world says that the creepy old guy is the bad guy.
Don't get me wrong. Sterling does seem to be a bad person. But sometimes the bad person is also the victim, and he stands in for us. As you applaud Stiviano for bringing the racist old man's views to light, consider if it were you speaking to a woman friend in what you thought was a private conversation
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feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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#31 Post by BackInTex » Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:39 pm

themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:
The Sterling story is not that we found a bigot and dragged him to the gallows in the middle of the marketplace of ideas.
I'm not convinced a bigot was even found. Bigot being a relative term and measured against the mores of a person's peers and acquaintances. Observing the language, culture and behaviors of every NBA associate (owner, coach, player, cheerleader, mascot, etc.) was what Sterling said really off? Will we ban for life every player (or rapper) who calls white folks "cracker"? Probably will have to cancel this year's Finals.

This is similar to the cacellation of a Cinco de Mayo fundraiser at Dartmouth because a single "Mexican-born, United-States-raised, first-generation woman of color" felt is was offensive. Folks not wanting to appear racists or be called names all piled on "Yeah, she's right." If ONE person is offended, everything must stop and the offender punished.

BTW, the fundraiser was to help reserach some childhood disease, I forget which one, but somewhere, some kid won't get the treatment he or she needs, but this single individual's feelings were spared.

Lord help us if the Irish ever sober up and get offended at St. Patrick's Day.
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#32 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:49 pm

BackInTex wrote: Lord help us if the Irish ever sober up and get offended at St. Patrick's Day.
I see what you did there
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feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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#33 Post by Bob Juch » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:31 pm

BackInTex wrote:
themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:
The Sterling story is not that we found a bigot and dragged him to the gallows in the middle of the marketplace of ideas.
I'm not convinced a bigot was even found. Bigot being a relative term and measured against the mores of a person's peers and acquaintances. Observing the language, culture and behaviors of every NBA associate (owner, coach, player, cheerleader, mascot, etc.) was what Sterling said really off? Will we ban for life every player (or rapper) who calls white folks "cracker"? Probably will have to cancel this year's Finals.

This is similar to the cancellation of a Cinco de Mayo fundraiser at Dartmouth because a single "Mexican-born, United-States-raised, first-generation woman of color" felt is was offensive. Folks not wanting to appear racists or be called names all piled on "Yeah, she's right." If ONE person is offended, everything must stop and the offender punished.

BTW, the fundraiser was to help research some childhood disease, I forget which one, but somewhere, some kid won't get the treatment he or she needs, but this single individual's feelings were spared.

Lord help us if the Irish ever sober up and get offended at St. Patrick's Day.
Why are American students celebrating a Mexican holiday? It's another thing if a Mexican restaurant does. Note it was the fraternity that cancelled it, not the university.
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#34 Post by macrae1234 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:03 pm

When is cinquo de Mayo?
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#35 Post by rayxtwo » Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:52 pm

macrae1234 wrote:When is cinquo de Mayo?
It was May 5th last year. I haven't check for this year yet.

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#36 Post by BackInTex » Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:22 pm

rayxtwo wrote:
macrae1234 wrote:When is cinquo de Mayo?
It was May 5th last year. I haven't check for this year yet.

Ray
It depends on the calendar. I think its always the first day after the 4th day of the month. The majority of the time in May.
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#37 Post by littlebeast13 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:30 pm

Just one day old, and already this single thread has covered the topics of racism, basketball history, double standards, whores, Jeopardy champions, demographically friendly aliases, and now Cinco de Mayo....

And they say this Bored is dead....

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#41 Post by NatteringNabobOfNegativity » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:25 pm

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#42 Post by Beebs52 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:33 pm

Anyone with any sort of recognition of current life things,...can't possibly not think the "girlfriend" is not a whore. NTTAWWT. And, any private business can do whatever they want to rid themselves of scumbags, which the NBA is doing. Sterling is a maggot. But, I will wager he may sue or something because a taped conversation was leaked to tmz , a TOTALLY reputable site..., and his supposed due process was coopted by the media immediately. Y'all better not be calling people wingnuts etc and own ateam anytime soon. And I realize this was payback for actual past "acting out" of rental discrimination, etc. Just he careful whatyou say and think your arguments out.
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#43 Post by Bob78164 » Thu May 01, 2014 12:33 am

Beebs52 wrote:Anyone with any sort of recognition of current life things,...can't possibly not think the "girlfriend" is not a whore. NTTAWWT. And, any private business can do whatever they want to rid themselves of scumbags, which the NBA is doing. Sterling is a maggot. But, I will wager he may sue or something because a taped conversation was leaked to tmz , a TOTALLY reputable site..., and his supposed due process was coopted by the media immediately. Y'all better not be calling people wingnuts etc and own ateam anytime soon. And I realize this was payback for actual past "acting out" of rental discrimination, etc. Just he careful whatyou say and think your arguments out.
Apparently he has admitted that the tape is authentic, so I don't see that any additional due process would have helped him. --Bob
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#44 Post by Bob78164 » Tue May 06, 2014 10:36 am

BackInTex wrote:
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christie1111 wrote:So is the supposed girlfriend still a girlfriend?

That part so confuses me.

Racist but his girlfriend is black/hispanic.

And is she the one that made the tape public?
And what about his wife - how does she fit in to all this?
Let's call the 'girlfriend' what she is...a whore. If we are calling Sterling a racist for private comments between him and his whore the certainly we can call her a whore.
I'm really starting to think this does her an injustice. She has been adamant that her relationship with Sterling has never been sexual, and apparently for years after she met him she continued to cook at food trucks at filming sites. It's also been confirmed (by her supervisor) that she spent a fair amount of time volunteering to help victims of domestic violence. --Bob
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#45 Post by BackInTex » Tue May 06, 2014 11:26 am

Bob78164 wrote: She has been adamant that her relationship with Sterling has never been sexual
She's also adamant that Sterling is not a racist.
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#46 Post by silverscreenselect » Tue May 06, 2014 11:35 am

Bob78164 wrote: Apparently he has admitted that the tape is authentic, so I don't see that any additional due process would have helped him. --Bob
The laws vary from state to state whether it's legal for a private party to tape a private conversation with another private party without the second party's consent (which is why they always remind you that your call is being recorded for "quality assurance" purposes).

Also, issues of "due process" and "freedom of speech" are not germane here. Those only apply to the government taking action. No governmental body taped Sterling and no governmental body is looking to punish or censor him for what he said. It's a private organization (the NBA) that Sterling voluntarily joined when he bought the Clippers that's taking punitive action against him, and whether and to what extent they can properly do so depends on the various governing documents involved. If they are seeking a remedy against him that is unjustified, he can refuse to co-operate and the issue will go to civil court (or file an action himself for relief).
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#47 Post by Bob78164 » Tue May 06, 2014 11:39 am

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Bob78164 wrote: Apparently he has admitted that the tape is authentic, so I don't see that any additional due process would have helped him. --Bob
The laws vary from state to state whether it's legal for a private party to tape a private conversation with another private party without the second party's consent (which is why they always remind you that your call is being recorded for "quality assurance" purposes).
In California both parties' consent is required, but she has consistently said that he knew he was being taped and consented. He hasn't yet said otherwise. --Bob
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#48 Post by silverscreenselect » Tue May 06, 2014 11:44 am

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silverscreenselect wrote:
Bob78164 wrote: Apparently he has admitted that the tape is authentic, so I don't see that any additional due process would have helped him. --Bob
The laws vary from state to state whether it's legal for a private party to tape a private conversation with another private party without the second party's consent (which is why they always remind you that your call is being recorded for "quality assurance" purposes).
In California both parties' consent is required, but she has consistently said that he knew he was being taped and consented. He hasn't yet said otherwise. --Bob
If Sterling knew he was being recorded and still said those things, then he has brought stupidity to a whole new level. Not even Moe, Larry, and Curly were that dumb.
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#49 Post by silverscreenselect » Tue May 06, 2014 11:45 am

Bob78164 wrote: He hasn't yet said otherwise. --Bob
I'm curious. Has he said anything since this whole affair became public?
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#50 Post by Bob78164 » Tue May 06, 2014 12:34 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
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silverscreenselect wrote:
The laws vary from state to state whether it's legal for a private party to tape a private conversation with another private party without the second party's consent (which is why they always remind you that your call is being recorded for "quality assurance" purposes).
In California both parties' consent is required, but she has consistently said that he knew he was being taped and consented. He hasn't yet said otherwise. --Bob
If Sterling knew he was being recorded and still said those things, then he has brought stupidity to a whole new level. Not even Moe, Larry, and Curly were that dumb.
Richard Nixon was. --Bob
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