hmmm strangely low on that scoring

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a1mamacat · #1 Post by **a1mamacat** » Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:41 am

for Virtue and Moir, with a short dance that even the Russian coach gave a standing O for.

We'll have to see after the rest of the shorts.

ghostjmf · #2 Post by **ghostjmf** » Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:49 pm

I won't see any of this 'til I get home to my TV, but the voices (from former champs; Scott Hamilton is one) we get on NBC often tell us about beautiful routines (flowed like a real dance, nobody fell on their butts) getting low marks because the individual elements weren't difficult enough.

I think any guy who can lift his female partner over his head, with both hands let alone one, while she pirouettes & then deposit her on the ground (or have her launch herself into a spin) without her falling on her butt, or worse, should get the gold. Because they all do that these days, at least in pairs skating (& prolly dancing too) all the teams should just share it.

jarnon · #3 Post by **jarnon** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:07 am

ghostjmf wrote:I think any guy who can lift his female partner over his head, with both hands let alone one, while she pirouettes & then deposit her on the ground (or have her launch herself into a spin) without her falling on her butt, or worse, should get the gold. Because they all do that these days, at least in pairs skating (& prolly dancing too) all the teams should just share it.

In ice dancing, the guy can lift the girl but not throw her. (I'm sure many of them could do the throw if it was allowed.)

ghostjmf · #4 Post by **ghostjmf** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:24 am

Just to correct myself, they did not have Scott Hamilton discussing the ice dancers. He does discuss the pairs & single skaters. They had a very knowledgeable woman who sounded very Canadian to me (by pronounciation of "ou" as it "out & about"). I should look her up!

ghostjmf · #5 Post by **ghostjmf** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:30 am

Long as I'm weighing in (again), I could live long (or at least live, let's be modest about this) without the view from the cam in the Canadian top pair's exercise room (probably it's everybody's exercise room), poised to get their reactions to the top American pair topping their score, between the Canadian pair doing workouts.

I could also live etc without the shot of Merle, the woman of the American pair, putting on her partner's makeup for him.

I could also live etc without umpteen people asking Bodie Miller if he's skating for his recently-deceased brother, & asking him again & again until they get him to tear up about it.

I'm with Jason Brown (I think that's his name)'s (the skater who fell, then got back up & finished his routine really well) outburst the other day to the effect of "if it's so easy, then you do it!".

SportsFan68 · #6 Post by **SportsFan68** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:33 am

Ghost wrote:

I could also live etc without umpteen people asking Bodie Miller if he's skating for his recently-deceased brother, & asking him again & again until they get him to tear up about it.

This is so creepy. Miller lived in Podunkville for a while before his career took off, and he is not a tearful kind of guy.

I continued to upbraid the local garbagewrapper for making mountains out of molehills -- molehills! Out of nothing!!

And it continues to not do any good.

mellytu74 · #7 Post by **mellytu74** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:44 am

ghostjmf wrote:I'm with Jason Brown (I think that's his name)'s (the skater who fell, then got back up & finished his routine really well) outburst the other day to the effect of "if it's so easy, then you do it!".

It was Jeremy Abbott. Jason Brown is the teenaged skater with the ponytail.

ghost is so right. It was one of the GREAT interview answers in sports history.

For those who haven't seen it, here's the Christian Science Monitor story.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Olympics ... our-for-US

mellytu74 · #8 Post by **mellytu74** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:04 pm

Spoiler alert:

Spoiler

Virtue and Moir just received the highest-ever score for a free skate. Not just theirs. Every ice dancing team.

The Russians didn't need any help in the team competition.

The Americans are the two-time defending world champions. So, with all due respect, they don't need any freakin' help - and I write this after watching the fabulous, exquisite program that V/M skated and before White and Davis.

Can we put the silly rumors to rest now?

a1mamacat · #9 Post by **a1mamacat** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:18 pm

mellytu74 wrote:Spoiler alert:

Spoiler
Virtue and Moir just received the highest-ever score for a free skate. Not just theirs. Every ice dancing team.

The Russians didn't need any help in the team competition.

The Americans are the two-time defending world champions. So, with all due respect, they don't need any freakin' help - and I write this after watching the fabulous, exquisite program that V/M skated and before White and Davis.

Can we put the silly rumors to rest now?

only after the scoring LOL

a1mamacat · #10 Post by **a1mamacat** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:22 pm

a1mamacat wrote:
mellytu74 wrote:Spoiler alert:

Spoiler
Virtue and Moir just received the highest-ever score for a free skate. Not just theirs. Every ice dancing team.

The Russians didn't need any help in the team competition.

The Americans are the two-time defending world champions. So, with all due respect, they don't need any freakin' help - and I write this after watching the fabulous, exquisite program that V/M skated and before White and Davis.

Can we put the silly rumors to rest now?
only after the scoring LOL

Spoiler

hmmmm well that highest ever sure didn't last long now did it? They could have left them that at least, after taking away their gold.

mellytu74 · #11 Post by **mellytu74** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:29 pm

a1mamacat wrote:
a1mamacat wrote:
mellytu74 wrote:Spoiler alert:

Spoiler
Virtue and Moir just received the highest-ever score for a free skate. Not just theirs. Every ice dancing team.

The Russians didn't need any help in the team competition.

The Americans are the two-time defending world champions. So, with all due respect, they don't need any freakin' help - and I write this after watching the fabulous, exquisite program that V/M skated and before White and Davis.

Can we put the silly rumors to rest now?
only after the scoring LOL

Spoiler
hmmmm well that highest ever sure didn't last long now did it? They could have left them that at least, after taking away their gold.

Spoiler

I am little surprised, frankly. I thought V/M narrowly won the free skate but D/W would edge them for the overall gold medal. What do I know?

Let the conspiracy talk ramp up once again. And, again, that pisses me off because it takes away from the performance of the two-time world champions.

a1mamacat · #12 Post by **a1mamacat** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:47 pm

mellytu74 wrote:
a1mamacat wrote:
a1mamacat wrote:
only after the scoring LOL

Spoiler
hmmmm well that highest ever sure didn't last long now did it? They could have left them that at least, after taking away their gold.

Spoiler
I am little surprised, frankly. I thought V/M narrowly won the free skate but D/W would edge them for the overall gold medal. What do I know?

Let the conspiracy talk ramp up once again. And, again, that pisses me off because it takes away from the performance of the two-time world champions.

Spoiler

I am pissed off about that too. They did earn the gold with their skating overall, but the scoring differential of 2+ points in both programs was just not really there. It does take away from their win, as they skated really beautifully, but not that much more point-wise.

ghostjmf · #13 Post by **ghostjmf** » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:33 am

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Just for the record, I would have given highest points to Virtue & Moir for the free skate, whoever won the gold on overall points.

I liked their routine better. OK, I am a sucker for romantic, flowing, ballet-like ice-skating routines, though you will never find me at a real ballet. I liked Virtue's costume way better (something that isn't awarded any points, but it looked like something she could almost wear "in real life").

And I don't like Meryl's look; way too much 40s Hollywood vamp, but her actual looks are too sharp-edged to carry it off, so she, a woman in her 20s, looks made-up like a woman in her 40s. She should lose the bright red lipstick, for one, both in performance & real life if she wears it there. (I trust they're not giving points on which female "looks better", though. They wouldn't give those the way I would, not even the female judges, anyway.)

I had fallen asleep before the Americans' skate (apparently taking insulin & Metformin makes you very, very sleepy early), but had carefully set my VCR 1st, & taken pains to turn the radio down whenever Olympics were mentioned the next day. About all I had spoiled for me was that they had "medalled", which we knew was a given anyway. Then I had the nightly news on right before I played my tape, & the announcer gave it away. Darn it. Oh well. And I'll have to look up their talk with Bob Costas on-line, as my carefully set VCR got the 1st half-hour of Jimmy Fallon as Tonight Show host, which I had sleepily forgotten would pre-empt the Olympics wrap-up interviews this week.

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