The Melting(?) Snows of Kilimanjaro

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The Melting(?) Snows of Kilimanjaro

#1 Post by Spock » Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:00 pm

I am doing some preliminary research for what will probably be my second post at "Eye on the Land."

http://eyeontheland.blogspot.com/

There is an interesting (to me) school of thought that the melting glaciers on Kilimanjaro are probably due to local land use changes and not so much due to things like Global Warming/Climate Change etc.

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#2 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:56 am

Spock wrote: There is an interesting (to me) school of thought that the melting glaciers on Kilimanjaro are probably due to local land use changes and not so much due to things like Global Warming/Climate Change etc.
Funny how there must be local land use changes in a lot of different places.
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#3 Post by Spock » Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:05 am

Here is a link to a story about a study by scientists looking at it in-depth.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 112136.htm

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#4 Post by Spock » Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:25 am

I put this post out there for a reason (and it will only work one time) and SSS kind of gave me what I was after and while I thought about leaving it for longer I want to allay any misperceptions it may have caused.

I assume the topic has been done to death in the Climate Change thread-I haven't looked, but I should as it may also get me what I am after.

I am NOT going down the road that Deforestation is causing glacier retreat on Kilimanjaro and thus Al Gore is full of crap.

I am going in another totally different direction that I only saw vaguely touched on in the in the various and sundry internet comment threads (admittedly, a small sample).

SSS>>Funny how there must be local land use changes in a lot of different places.<<<

SSS, I know where you are going with that-essentially, all tropical glaciers are receding etc etc.

I assume you have dug into that issue only for internet political debates and that the subject is really not that important to you.

My question for SSS is "Now What?" "What is your next step?" If you say you will work to address global climate change-it would be neat to hear what your thoughts are on the ever-increasing coal usage in China, India and the developing world and how you plan to impact that.

The blog is not just about climate change-but that is where much fruit is/will be.

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#5 Post by Spock » Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:54 pm

http://eyeontheland.blogspot.com/

Got the post on Kilimanjaro written. Now I have to actually get some work done-LOL

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#6 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:00 pm

But you didn't mention the white gorillas. :P
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#7 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:00 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
Spock wrote: There is an interesting (to me) school of thought that the melting glaciers on Kilimanjaro are probably due to local land use changes and not so much due to things like Global Warming/Climate Change etc.
Funny how there must be local land use changes in a lot of different places.
Like the Mangroves of eastern Florida
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#8 Post by Spock » Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:11 pm

TMITSSS, There is a school of thought developing, of which I am obviously a proponent, that all the global warming stuff has sucked the oxygen out of the room, when it comes to other more legitimate conservation activities.

I have read blurbs and so forth about this for the last while, but I can't remember the most well-known, or vocal, proponent of this view. Do you have any ideas who I might be talking about or looking for?

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#9 Post by Bob Juch » Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:54 pm

Spock wrote:TMITSSS, There is a school of thought developing, of which I am obviously a proponent, that all the global warming stuff has sucked the oxygen out of the room, when it comes to other more legitimate conservation activities.

I have read blurbs and so forth about this for the last while, but I can't remember the most well-known, or vocal, proponent of this view. Do you have any ideas who I might be talking about or looking for?
I have to ask why you said, "Melting(?)". Do you dispute they're melting? The root cause is in dispute of course.
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