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#1 Post by Beebs52 » Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:40 pm

And my question. Obviously, everybody has done something in their life that qualifies as supremely humiliating, awful, wiping-out-of-the-whole-section-life-as-you-know-it-temporarily, or thereabouts. And, if you haven't, bless your heart and I think you may be lying, but if you're not, you're definitely better than I am.

With that being said, how DO these public figures, who continue, in their present, like NOW life ,while they're in office, carry on passing laws, pressing for legislation, serving as pitbulls against sin and bad behavior, both legal, personal, sexual, educational, environmental, racial, monetary, jaywalking-wise, etc. without their heads exploding?

I mean, if you're in an elected office, you're not superhuman--I'll give you a second chance, or even a third-- but if you treat me like a second grade student and sling your moral superiority and arrogance about I shall smite you with my disdain. And that's really a threat.

But, you'll surely not get my vote and you'll surely get my, um, extended disdain.

It's late and I have no more words worth anything left.

Wordsworth. I'm a poet and I don't know it.

And, don't make me name names, on either side. Because, I will.
Well, then

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#2 Post by Ritterskoop » Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:50 pm

I don't mind mistakes. I do mind unrepentance, which you are describing, and also continued stupidity (everybody gets to be stupid now and then, but not over and over).
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Re: Here's the thing

#3 Post by wintergreen48 » Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:08 pm

Beebs52 wrote:And my question. Obviously, everybody has done something in their life that qualifies as supremely humiliating, awful, wiping-out-of-the-whole-section-life-as-you-know-it-temporarily, or thereabouts. And, if you haven't, bless your heart and I think you may be lying, but if you're not, you're definitely better than I am.

With that being said, how DO these public figures, who continue, in their present, like NOW life ,while they're in office, carry on passing laws, pressing for legislation, serving as pitbulls against sin and bad behavior, both legal, personal, sexual, educational, environmental, racial, monetary, jaywalking-wise, etc. without their heads exploding?

I mean, if you're in an elected office, you're not superhuman--I'll give you a second chance, or even a third-- but if you treat me like a second grade student and sling your moral superiority and arrogance about I shall smite you with my disdain. And that's really a threat.

But, you'll surely not get my vote and you'll surely get my, um, extended disdain.

It's late and I have no more words worth anything left.

Wordsworth. I'm a poet and I don't know it.

And, don't make me name names, on either side. Because, I will.

1. Those rules apply to ordinary people, not to the people elected to office (Congress routinely exempts itself from the application of labor standards, for example; they claim that this is necessary because of 'separation of powers.' Ha! as someone on this Bored might say).

2. The people elected to office do not expect to get caught.


Most people elected to office are lawyers. Lawyers do not go to law school to learn laws, they go to law school to learn how to 'think like a lawyer.' The best definition I have ever heard of what THAT means is that it means that you can think about something that is related to something else, without thinking about the 'something else.' Thus (to use a cliche-ish example) Gloria Allred-- an extremely capable criminal defense attorney-- can zealously represent a mad dog rapist client (so long as he does not claim that his victim consented) without thinking about the fact that if she gets him off, he will be back on the street, continuing his mad dog rapist activities. Taking that approach to a personal level, if you can think about something that is related to something else, without thinking about the something else, it is probably pretty easy for you to take a vigorous stand and crusade zealously against corruption, immorality, scaring the horses, etc., while at the same time you yourself, in your private life, engage in activities that are corrupt, immoral, and scare the horses, etc., all without your head exploding.

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#4 Post by Beebs52 » Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:46 pm

Most people elected to office are lawyers. Lawyers do not go to law school to learn laws, they go to law school to learn how to 'think like a lawyer.' The best definition I have ever heard of what THAT means is that it means that you can think about something that is related to something else, without thinking about the 'something else.' Thus (to use a cliche-ish example) Gloria Allred-- an extremely capable criminal defense attorney-- can zealously represent a mad dog rapist client (so long as he does not claim that his victim consented) without thinking about the fact that if she gets him off, he will be back on the street, continuing his mad dog rapist activities. Taking that approach to a personal level, if you can think about something that is related to something else, without thinking about the something else, it is probably pretty easy for you to take a vigorous stand and crusade zealously against corruption, immorality, scaring the horses, etc., while at the same time you yourself, in your private life, engage in activities that are corrupt, immoral, and scare the horses, etc., all without your head exploding.
You've explained it quite well. It's all mechanics and a game. Something I once thought would be very intriguing as a job venture if I had the money and gumption and right attitude, which I don't. It's sort of like people I care about arguing about important things that I might actually feel strongly about, who treat it solely as a debate. My mother used to do that. Other people I know do that as well. I've gotten way better at it in the course of my job because I have had to. And I'm able to dismiss it better personally when I recognize the falseness involved.

I do not want to argue something if I don't give a rat's ass about it. But I understand the necessity to do so if I'm on the block defending someone professionally or insurancely. In fact, I just had to produce a mini treatise on the public information act and open meetings act as they apply to us/we here and it was FASCINATING. I may be wrong in my assumptions, but I had to take into consideration the other parties involved along with just little ol' us.

Anyway, it comes down to playing the game professionally and tainting the game personally, I think. Spitzing on things as it were.
Well, then

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#5 Post by peacock2121 » Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:16 am

I can tell you what Dr Dick said:

1. I really didn't think I was doing anything wrong - I forced no one to do anything.

2. You (meaning me) didn't listen to my needs and provide them for me.

3. I did not think I was risking everything because it was no big deal.

4. This had nothing to do with my ability as a doctor.

5. This had nothing to do with my love for my family.

He still believes all of those things.

Even worse, so does his third wife.

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#6 Post by christie1111 » Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:58 am

peacock2121 wrote:I can tell you what Dr Dick said:

1. I really didn't think I was doing anything wrong - I forced no one to do anything.

2. You (meaning me) didn't listen to my needs and provide them for me.

3. I did not think I was risking everything because it was no big deal.

4. This had nothing to do with my ability as a doctor.

5. This had nothing to do with my love for my family.

He still believes all of those things.

Even worse, so does his third wife.
So he cheated and got caught? Was it with a patient? #4 has me confused.

Clearly an idiot in any case.

You turned out good though PeaBabe. Just imagine still being in that situation and be so much happier for the things you learned about yourself in the process. Just a shame you had to go through the journey to get to this point. But it may not have been possible otherwise.
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#7 Post by Appa23 » Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:00 am

peacock2121 wrote:I can tell you what Dr Dick said:

1. I really didn't think I was doing anything wrong - I forced no one to do anything.

2. You (meaning me) didn't listen to my needs and provide them for me.

3. I did not think I was risking everything because it was no big deal.

4. This had nothing to do with my ability as a doctor.

5. This had nothing to do with my love for my family.

He still believes all of those things.

Even worse, so does his third wife.
So, Pea, were you #1 or #2?

Is Pealette the only kid from the three?

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#8 Post by peacock2121 » Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:25 am

Appa23 wrote:
peacock2121 wrote:I can tell you what Dr Dick said:

1. I really didn't think I was doing anything wrong - I forced no one to do anything.

2. You (meaning me) didn't listen to my needs and provide them for me.

3. I did not think I was risking everything because it was no big deal.

4. This had nothing to do with my ability as a doctor.

5. This had nothing to do with my love for my family.

He still believes all of those things.

Even worse, so does his third wife.
So, Pea, were you #1 or #2?

Is Pealette the only kid from the three?
I was #2.

Pealette is from # 1.

She is the only child I know he has.

There will be a #4.

Of this, I am sure.

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#9 Post by Tocqueville3 » Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:39 am

peacock2121 wrote:I can tell you what Dr Dick said:

1. I really didn't think I was doing anything wrong - I forced no one to do anything.

2. You (meaning me) didn't listen to my needs and provide them for me.

3. I did not think I was risking everything because it was no big deal.

4. This had nothing to do with my ability as a doctor.

5. This had nothing to do with my love for my family.

He still believes all of those things.

Even worse, so does his third wife.

Dude, what a dick.


Pun intented.

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