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New Amsterdam discussion thread - 3/10/2008 episode

#1 Post by earendel » Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:35 am

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The crime was a little more involved this time around, and the flashbacks were more central to the character's motivation. Of course it was pretty obvious that the vet (played by Orlando Jones) wasn't the guilty party, and there were only two other choices so it wasn't hard to figure out who it was.

The subplot - cop meets doctor - was interesting, particularly with the reference to "toxic levels of lead" in Amsterdam's blood and "Native American genetic markers". The introduction of the husband, though, was certainly out of the blue.
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#2 Post by tlynn78 » Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:46 am

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I missed the end

who was the guilty party?

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Re: New Amsterdam discussion thread - 3/10/2008 episode

#3 Post by MarleysGh0st » Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:53 am

earendel wrote:
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The introduction of the husband, though, was certainly out of the blue.
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Yeah, I guess the shaman didn't explain the fine print of what happens if he finds his one true love and her heart already belongs to another. :shock:

But something tells me that her marriage is unhappy and Amsterdam still has a chance.

I'm really getting to like how he can be so honest with his answers and keep getting away with it.

"Were you ever in the military?"

"Three times in the Army. Marines, Coast Guard--no Air Force, though, I don't like heights."

"What, no border patrol? :roll: "

Like you said, this was a good episode integrating the backstory with the present. I also liked the surprise revelation of who Amsterdam's Civil War corpsman was.
I think I'm sticking with this show, for however long it lasts.

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#4 Post by MarleysGh0st » Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:56 am

tlynn78 wrote:
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I missed the end

who was the guilty party?

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The other doctor, who was still pitching the repressed memory angle to his patients. The murder victim was going to publish a book about the subject with some damning references to her former partner.

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Re: New Amsterdam discussion thread - 3/10/2008 episode

#5 Post by earendel » Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:19 am

MarleysGh0st wrote:
earendel wrote:
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The introduction of the husband, though, was certainly out of the blue.
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Yeah, I guess the shaman didn't explain the fine print of what happens if he finds his one true love and her heart already belongs to another. :shock:

But something tells me that her marriage is unhappy and Amsterdam still has a chance.

I'm really getting to like how he can be so honest with his answers and keep getting away with it.

"Were you ever in the military?"

"Three times in the Army. Marines, Coast Guard--no Air Force, though, I don't like heights."

"What, no border patrol? :roll: "

Like you said, this was a good episode integrating the backstory with the present. I also liked the surprise revelation of who Amsterdam's Civil War corpsman was.
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I thought sure the desk where the manuscript was hidden would turn out to be one that he had made back in the day.

I suspect that we'll probably see other run-ins with famous people in Amsterdam's past, rather like Sam Beckett meeting Buddy Holly, Michael Jackson and other later famous people.
MarleysGh0st wrote:I think I'm sticking with this show, for however long it lasts.
As long as there aren't any schedule conflicts - my DVR is already set up to record the CBS comedies and "Heroes", so if New Amsterdam survives until the fall there may be trouble.
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Re: New Amsterdam discussion thread - 3/10/2008 episode

#6 Post by MarleysGh0st » Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:25 am

earendel wrote:
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I thought sure the desk where the manuscript was hidden would turn out to be one that he had made back in the day.
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I didn't see the second episode, but solving the crime in the first and third have depending on much too convenient coincidences, rather than on his accumulated wisdom. The victim just happens to have unique paint under her fingernails that was used by an artist Amsterdam dated fiftysome years ago or the victim just happens to have a Civil War-vintage desk with a secret compartment in it. What luck!

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Re: New Amsterdam discussion thread - 3/10/2008 episode

#7 Post by tanstaafl2 » Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:08 am

earendel wrote:
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The crime was a little more involved this time around, and the flashbacks were more central to the character's motivation. Of course it was pretty obvious that the vet (played by Orlando Jones) wasn't the guilty party, and there were only two other choices so it wasn't hard to figure out who it was.

The subplot - cop meets doctor - was interesting, particularly with the reference to "toxic levels of lead" in Amsterdam's blood and "Native American genetic markers". The introduction of the husband, though, was certainly out of the blue.
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That he had "Native American genetic markers" in his blood made absolutely no sense to me. He was a Dutch explorer as far as all indications have been so far. You don't get them from sleeping with natives, you have to be one!

Unless perhaps his revival by the shaman involved a bone marrow transfusion...

If so they haven't bothered to show that part yet. All I remember was a little mouth to mouth from the peace pipe. I guess that could be it but it seems a little weak to me.

Maybe it is that "suspension of disbelief" thing again but at least they could have it make a little bit of sense where the opportunity presents itself. I suppose I am also overly sensitive to "medical" details...

And if he already has toxic levels of lead then he may not be long for this world, at least mentally, if and when his "mortality" finally kicks in again!

As for the "special guest" in the flashback, it would seem they played a little loose with the history of the book. Unless he kept a copy of the original small printing he paid for seven years earlier to give away it seems unlikely it was one of the copies he paid for himself as it had already been through at least a couple more conventional printings by the time he supposedly gives it to Amsterdam in 1862.

Not that I would have known without looking it up.

I did see that this episode of the show is already referenced on the Wiki page for the book!
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Re: New Amsterdam discussion thread - 3/10/2008 episode

#8 Post by tanstaafl2 » Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:12 am

MarleysGh0st wrote:
earendel wrote:
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I thought sure the desk where the manuscript was hidden would turn out to be one that he had made back in the day.
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I didn't see the second episode, but solving the crime in the first and third have depending on much too convenient coincidences, rather than on his accumulated wisdom. The victim just happens to have unique paint under her fingernails that was used by an artist Amsterdam dated fiftysome years ago or the victim just happens to have a Civil War-vintage desk with a secret compartment in it. What luck!
Spoilerish for the second episode.
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The second episode case hinged on his apparent acute sense of who is lying and his apparent ability to forge handwriting. The flashback was related to the revelation of Omar's connection to Amsterdam.
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