Elliot Spitzer in a Mess

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silverscreenselect · #1 Post by **silverscreenselect** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:32 pm

New York governor Elliot Spitzer has apparently admitted some involvement in a high class prostitution ring that was broken up by federal authorities last week. Details are somewhat sketchy at this time, but suffice it to say it won't be good news for Spitzer who was elected as a former state Attorney General who was tough on ethics reform.

Oops.

Appa23 · #2 Post by **Appa23** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:39 pm

I am sure that it was just an oversight, but you failed to note Spitzer's party affiliation, like you do with other politicians having legal problems.

peacock2121 · #3 Post by **peacock2121** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:51 pm

I am not one to run to defend SSS and it seems to me that anyone who doesn't know Spitzer is a democrat has been living under a rock.

TheConfessor · #4 Post by **TheConfessor** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:53 pm

Appa23 wrote:I am sure that it was just an oversight, but you failed to note Spitzer's party affiliation, like you do with other politicians having legal problems.

Don't worry. The alleged impropriety was exposed by the New York Times, so it obviously must not be true.

peacock2121 · #5 Post by **peacock2121** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:56 pm

TheConfessor wrote:
Appa23 wrote:I am sure that it was just an oversight, but you failed to note Spitzer's party affiliation, like you do with other politicians having legal problems.

Don't worry. The alleged impropriety was exposed by the New York Times, so it obviously must not be true.

That's a great defense!

Hope Elliot thinks of that one.

What a hoot!

Sir_Galahad · #6 Post by **Sir_Galahad** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:32 pm

If anyone needs to resign....

#7 Post by **Bob78164** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:49 pm

Quick quiz: What's the name of New York's Lieutenant Governor? --Bob

MarleysGh0st · #8 Post by **MarleysGh0st** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:53 pm

Bob78164 wrote:Quick quiz: What's the name of New York's Lieutenant Governor? --Bob

Given the hints already in the thread, that's easy!

He's Ray Charles.

Rexer25 · #9 Post by **Rexer25** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:57 pm

MarleysGh0st wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:Quick quiz: What's the name of New York's Lieutenant Governor? --Bob
Given the hints already in the thread, that's easy!

He's Ray Charles.

Not to be too picky, but I think one of the prerequisites for holding office in this country is that the office holder must not be dead.

Except in South Texas and Cook County, Illinois.

Or is that just for voters? I get lost...

T_Bone0806 · #10 Post by **T_Bone0806** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:21 pm

Rexer25 wrote:
MarleysGh0st wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:Quick quiz: What's the name of New York's Lieutenant Governor? --Bob
Given the hints already in the thread, that's easy!

He's Ray Charles.
Not to be too picky, but I think one of the prerequisites for holding office in this country is that the office holder must not be dead.

On the other hand, how much worse can a dead politician do than most of the live ones?

The Lord Jehovah · #11 Post by **The Lord Jehovah** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:52 pm

Appa23 wrote:I am sure that it was just an oversight, but you failed to note Spitzer's party affiliation, like you do with other politicians having legal problems.

As SSS has noted on many occasions, the Republicans who get into this sort of trouble almost invariably claim to be in favor of high standards, and then they go and do these naughty things that incite my righteous wrath: SSS is troubled by the hypocrisy involved, rather than the naughtiness, and he notes the party affiliation as a way to expose the sinner's hypocrisy. Democrats, on the other hand, do not have any standards, and so, there is no hypocrisy involved when they are naughty, and thus, no reason for SSS to point out their party affiliation.

flockofseagulls104 · #12 Post by **flockofseagulls104** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:27 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:New York governor Elliot Spitzer has apparently admitted some involvement in a high class prostitution ring that was broken up by federal authorities last week. Details are somewhat sketchy at this time, but suffice it to say it won't be good news for Spitzer who was elected as a former state Attorney General who was tough on ethics reform.

Oops.

Shouldn't the title of the thread be 'Democrat Family Values?'

Ritterskoop · #13 Post by **Ritterskoop** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:29 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Shouldn't the title of the thread be 'Democrat Family Values?'

Nah. We're all atheists with no values. Nothing to shoot for.

peacock2121 · #14 Post by **peacock2121** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:22 am

Ritterskoop wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Shouldn't the title of the thread be 'Democrat Family Values?'
Nah. We're all atheists with no values. Nothing to shoot for.

Skoop!

You used sarcasm!

Holy Crap!

MarleysGh0st · #15 Post by **MarleysGh0st** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:33 am

Rexer25 wrote:
MarleysGh0st wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:Quick quiz: What's the name of New York's Lieutenant Governor? --Bob
Given the hints already in the thread, that's easy!

He's Ray Charles.
Not to be too picky, but I think one of the prerequisites for holding office in this country is that the office holder must not be dead.

Except in South Texas and Cook County, Illinois.

Or is that just for voters? I get lost...

For the highly demanding office of New York Lieutenant Governor, being dead should not be an impediment. And Mr. Charles would have the advantage of being remembered by the voters, unlike--uhhhh--Mr. Patterson.

MarleysGh0st · #16 Post by **MarleysGh0st** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:35 am

peacock2121 wrote:
Ritterskoop wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Shouldn't the title of the thread be 'Democrat Family Values?'
Nah. We're all atheists with no values. Nothing to shoot for.
Skoop!

You used sarcasm!

Holy Crap!

Pretty cool, huh?

Now don't get all wishy-washy and apologize for that, Skoop.

PlacentiaSoccerMom · #17 Post by **PlacentiaSoccerMom** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:20 am

Ritterskoop wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Shouldn't the title of the thread be 'Democrat Family Values?'
Nah. We're all atheists with no values. Nothing to shoot for.

peacock2121 · #18 Post by **peacock2121** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:23 am

MarleysGh0st wrote:
peacock2121 wrote:
Ritterskoop wrote: Nah. We're all atheists with no values. Nothing to shoot for.
Skoop!

You used sarcasm!

Holy Crap!
Pretty cool, huh?

Now don't get all wishy-washy and apologize for that, Skoop.

and

now,

marley is funny!

Holy Crap!

kayrharris · #19 Post by **kayrharris** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:40 am

See how the bored is progressing? Maybe someday I'll come out of my shell....who knows???

peacock2121 · #20 Post by **peacock2121** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:11 am

kayrharris wrote:See how the bored is progressing? Maybe someday I'll come out of my shell....who knows???

Shells or camis....... so many decisions we womenfolk have to make that men do not.

wintergreen48 · #21 Post by **wintergreen48** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:22 pm

Appa23 wrote:I am sure that it was just an oversight, but you failed to note Spitzer's party affiliation, like you do with other politicians having legal problems.

USA Today has a front page story today on this incident. The story mentions sexual misconduct-type scandals involving other politicos: all told, they mention stuff that involves two governors, one state chief judge, and one US Senator. One of the four politicos is a Republican, the other three are all Democrats. The Republican (Larry 'Wide Stance' Craig) is the only one of the four whose party affiliation is noted. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

TheConfessor · #22 Post by **TheConfessor** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:01 pm

wintergreen48 wrote: USA Today has a front page story today on this incident. The story mentions sexual misconduct-type scandals involving other politicos: all told, they mention stuff that involves two governors, one state chief judge, and one US Senator. One of the four politicos is a Republican, the other three are all Democrats. The Republican (Larry 'Wide Stance' Craig) is the only one of the four whose party affiliation is noted. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

If you are referring to this article
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/200 ... titialskip
then you are just plain wrong.

Other politicians with big ambitions have fallen in sex scandals. In neighboring New Jersey, Democratic Gov. James McGreevey, a husband and father of two children, resigned in 2004 after announcing "I am a gay American" and admitting to an affair with a man. In 1992, New York Chief Judge Sol Wachtler — often mentioned for a U.S. Supreme Court nomination — resigned after he was accused of threatening to kidnap the daughter of a former mistress. He pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 15 months in federal prison.

If you are counting Wachtler as a Democrat, I don't know whether that is correct or not. How do you know? Wikipedia doesn't say. I've never heard of the guy, except that he's apparently the original source of the quote that a grand jury can indict a ham sandwich.

And if you are counting USA Today's mention of Bill Clinton without identifying his party, I think most readers know he's a Democrat.

I'm surprised to see you slinging untrue accusations just like some of the board's more predictably biased partisans. The trouble with your past thoughtful and erudite posts is that I've come to hold you to a higher standard.

wintergreen48 · #23 Post by **wintergreen48** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:44 pm

I was counting Wachtler, and I could SWEAR that when I read the USA Today article in the library (I would never pay money for it), it did NOT mention McGreevey's party affiliation. So my post was inaccurate about that. But I was POSITIVE that it did not have McGreevey's party. Jeez. I suppose I could try to blame it on a pollen allergy that really kicked up today (I can't see straight right now), but that would be wrong. Mea culpa.

Beebs52 · #24 Post by **Beebs52** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:00 pm

wintergreen48 wrote:I was counting Wachtler, and I could SWEAR that when I read the USA Today article in the library (I would never pay money for it), it did NOT mention McGreevey's party affiliation. So my post was inaccurate about that. But I was POSITIVE that it did not have McGreevey's party. Jeez. I suppose I could try to blame it on a pollen allergy that really kicked up today (I can't see straight right now), but that would be wrong. Mea culpa.

Honestly, get on your knees Wintergreen. You, you, inappropriately attributed or non-attributed political party of wrong-doers, you. For some reason I don't lump you in with knee-jerkiness. Call me crazy.

They're all scumballs and just basically stupid. Party, no party. Whatev and that's a big whatev. Plus, as a fiduciary Spitzer is pretty lame.

Did I say LAME?
ba da bing ba da boom

TheConfessor · #25 Post by **TheConfessor** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:26 pm

wintergreen48 wrote:I was counting Wachtler, and I could SWEAR that when I read the USA Today article in the library (I would never pay money for it), it did NOT mention McGreevey's party affiliation. So my post was inaccurate about that. But I was POSITIVE that it did not have McGreevey's party. Jeez. I suppose I could try to blame it on a pollen allergy that really kicked up today (I can't see straight right now), but that would be wrong. Mea culpa.

Sorry about your allergy. Maybe this will help you feel better. I just saw it in the Austin American-Statesman, which is generally regarded as left of center. Enjoy!
http://www.statesman.com/search/content ... riefs.html

Fondling ex-lawmaker may return

LITTLE ROCK— A former state lawmaker who resigned after being accused of fondling a teenager was the only candidate to file for his old House seat and will return to the Arkansas Legislature next year unless a write-in or third-party candidate successfully challenges him. Former Rep. Roosevelt Dwayne Dobbins resigned and pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment in 2005 in a plea bargain reached after he was arrested on a felony sexual assault charge. The deal did not bar the North Little Rock Democrat from seeking elective office in the future, prosecutor Larry Jegley said. House District 39 is now represented by Dobbins' wife, Sharon, who won the seat in a special election after her husband's 2005 resignation and is not seeking another term.

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