reflections on "Super Tuesday"

[ToLiveIsToFly]

Seriously?? How can you vote for someone based strictly on charisma? What has he done that gives him creedence to earn your vote? I don't understand that thinking at all.

Well, he was governor of a state where the governor has almost no power, and before that he ran a baseball team and an oil company into the ground. Before that he at worst dodged the draft and at best used his daddy's pull to get into the national guard. In between he had a substance abuse problem.

Or are you thinking about someone else?

[ne1410s]

Well, he was governor of a state where the governor has almost no power, and before that he ran a baseball team and an oil company into the ground. Before that he at worst dodged the draft and at best used his daddy's pull to get into the national guard. In between he had a substance abuse problem.

Or are you thinking about someone else?

"Now, that's funny right there, I don't care who you are...."

[ToLiveIsToFly]

What you said about the Republicans is spot on. Right now Mitt Romney wants to kill Huckabee. I would really like to see Mitt Romney get out of the race just to see what it will do for Mike Huckabee. A race between Huckabee and McCain would be fun to watch. A Republican ticket with McCain and Huckabee would be ever more fun to watch. I'm not quite sure that will happen though. I think McCain will pick Lindsay Graham as his running mate.

I saw some chick with a Ron Paul sticker on her van this morning whilst taking Samantha to school. Ron Paul is a kookoo whacko and I can't understand how anyone in their right mind would pull the lever for him. In the last debate I wanted to smack his smug face. I also wanted to smack Mitt's smug face, too. Maybe we should do like a small cage death match between those two.

What makes Ron Paul less sane than (to use your words) the kookoo whacko who doesn't believe in evolution and wants to amend the Constitution to match god's law?

[mellytu74]

ROTFLMAO!!!

[mellytu74]

OK -- a recreation of the post that was timed out.

1) Is it just me or did McCain only win states that normally don't go for Republicans in November?

2) Mike Huckabee's performance in Missouri was interesting. It took the late returns from the St. Louis suburbs to give the state to McCain. Not that I would vote for him but it was interesting how much of the state he won, as the conservative alternative.

3) If this is all about race, then please explain Obama’s wins in ND, Minnesota, Utah. And please don’t tell me it’s because Clinton didn’t campaign there. What? They didn’t know who she was until this week?

4) I went to bed at 12:30 a.m. EST. From the numbers I saw, it seemed that in whatever state – the exception being Arkansas – the second-place Democrat had more votes than the top two Republicans combined.

Now, I realize that the primaries bring out the real faithful on both sides but were there THAT many more Democrats voting?

5) How many of Clinton’s California votes came from early voting?

6) Obama won Illinois by a 33 percent margin. Clinton won New York by a 17 percent margin. Why does it seem so much less a victory, even though it’s an impressive margin?

7) I LOVE Tocque’s idea of a death cage match. I think the first bet should be the over/under of how soon into it Romney’s hair will get mussed.

I am still undecided.

McCain is, I think, out.

I don’t want to stay in Iraq for another 100 years. As I said in my other post, the war on terror is with us the rest of our lives. Fighting it smarter with better allocated resources is the only way we survive.

And he’s said a few times that the economy isn’t his strong suit. I’m not sure that’s the guy I want running the country mid-recession.

Tell me about creating jobs. And I mean industrial/manufacturing jobs, because an economy built on service section jobs alone is not a robust superpower ecomony.

I was a Congressional aide when the Clinton health care plan came through Congress. Lots of good stuff and interesting concepts. But, IMHO, it was unwieldy because it tried to do too much in one swoop.

[Rexer25]

1) Is it just me or did McCain only win states that normally don't go for Republicans in November?

CBS pointed this out as well, and said it might be a pointer to some really tossed about results in November.

[Jeemie]

Ron Paul is a kookoo whacko and I can't understand how anyone in their right mind would pull the lever for him. In the last debate I wanted to smack his smug face. I also wanted to smack Mitt's smug face, too. Maybe we should do like a small cage death match between those two.

I see the establishment, whose goal it was to have Ron Paul smacked down (as it was to have Howard Dean knocked down 4 years ago) has done its job well.

[Rexer25]

Ron Paul is a kookoo whacko and I can't understand how anyone in their right mind would pull the lever for him. In the last debate I wanted to smack his smug face. I also wanted to smack Mitt's smug face, too. Maybe we should do like a small cage death match between those two.

I see the establishment, whose goal it was to have Ron Paul smacked down (as it was to have Howard Dean knocked down 4 years ago) has done its job well.

How come it's not working so well on McCain?

[Jeemie]

Ron Paul is a kookoo whacko and I can't understand how anyone in their right mind would pull the lever for him. In the last debate I wanted to smack his smug face. I also wanted to smack Mitt's smug face, too. Maybe we should do like a small cage death match between those two.

I see the establishment, whose goal it was to have Ron Paul smacked down (as it was to have Howard Dean knocked down 4 years ago) has done its job well.

How come it's not working so well on McCain?

Because there's no one else out there with any stronger appeal to all concerned.

And we'll see how well it works on McCain in the general election.

[Sir_Galahad]

The media has been pushing McCain for quite a while, now. If he gets the nomination, you will see how fast the media turns on him. Their job will be finished.

[Bixby17]

Seriously?? How can you vote for someone based strictly on charisma? What has he done that gives him creedence to earn your vote? I don't understand that thinking at all.

Well, he was governor of a state where the governor has almost no power, and before that he ran a baseball team and an oil company into the ground. Before that he at worst dodged the draft and at best used his daddy's pull to get into the national guard. In between he had a substance abuse problem.

Or are you thinking about someone else?

Any way to add the rep button here?

[Sir_Galahad]

Seriously?? How can you vote for someone based strictly on charisma? What has he done that gives him creedence to earn your vote? I don't understand that thinking at all.

Well, he was governor of a state where the governor has almost no power, and before that he ran a baseball team and an oil company into the ground. Before that he at worst dodged the draft and at best used his daddy's pull to get into the national guard. In between he had a substance abuse problem.

Or are you thinking about someone else?

Are you talking about Bush???

[starfish1113]

Well, Super Tuesday has solidified my leanings and next week I will vote (in a primary that actually means something, for a change!) for the candidate I decided to support two weeks before Iowa, John McCain. The thought of Mitt Romney as the nominee makes me slightly queasy. If he comes back and wins this thing, I don't know if I could vote for him in the general. Slick, car salesman, flip flopping pretty boy, IMO. As for Huckabee, I really like him personally. I think he is funny and glib and a good speaker and right on most of the issues, but (1) he's probably unelectable and (2) his views on some social issues are a bit too far to the right for me.

So, I will go for the candidate who is proven, experienced, willing to work with the other side of the aisle (a negative for some but not for me), and respected by a wide swath of Americans. And, for whoever said he is pro-choice, that is simply a false statement. His record is well known and consistent, unlike a certain former governor of Massachusetts.

[ne1410s]

And, for whoever said he is pro-choice, that is simply a false statement. His record is well known and consistent,

I suppose you're trying to tell us that he doesn't worship at a mosque with Obama either!! Well, I never....

[Tocqueville3]

What you said about the Republicans is spot on. Right now Mitt Romney wants to kill Huckabee. I would really like to see Mitt Romney get out of the race just to see what it will do for Mike Huckabee. A race between Huckabee and McCain would be fun to watch. A Republican ticket with McCain and Huckabee would be ever more fun to watch. I'm not quite sure that will happen though. I think McCain will pick Lindsay Graham as his running mate.

I saw some chick with a Ron Paul sticker on her van this morning whilst taking Samantha to school. Ron Paul is a kookoo whacko and I can't understand how anyone in their right mind would pull the lever for him. In the last debate I wanted to smack his smug face. I also wanted to smack Mitt's smug face, too. Maybe we should do like a small cage death match between those two.

What makes Ron Paul less sane than (to use your words) the kookoo whacko who doesn't believe in evolution and wants to amend the Constitution to match god's law?

I'm not sure that you want to pick this fight with me. I believe the Bible is inerrant. You are not going to change my mind regarding evolution.

With regards to Ron Paul, I have read things about him that make me think he is a racist and an anti-semite. He has published numerous newsletters with articles written by people supporting David Duke and writers calling Martin Luther King jr. a pedophile. To me there is a huge difference between a candidate who doesn't believe in evolution and is a man who wants this country to be more God centered than one who is a racist anti-semite. But that's just me.

[ne1410s]

Someone who does not believe in evolution should not be allowed to vote let alone run for office. IMO

What if Huckabee was stricken with an antibiotic resistant strain of microbe? One that has evolved to defend itself from some types of antibiotics.


Could be like Tom Lehrer used to say, "The epitome of mixed emotions is a Christian Scientist with appendicitis."

[Tocqueville3]

Someone who does not believe in evolution should not be allowed to vote let alone run for office. IMO

What if Huckabee was stricken with an antibiotic resistant strain of microbe? One that has evolved to defend itself from some types of antibiotics.


Could be like Tom Lehrer used to say, "The epitome of mixed emotions is a Christian Scientist with appendicitis."

Gee, that's real nice. You think that I shouldn't have the right to vote. I don't even know where to start with this so I won't. It's not worth it.

[earendel]

Someone who does not believe in evolution should not be allowed to vote let alone run for office. IMO

What if Huckabee was stricken with an antibiotic resistant strain of microbe? One that has evolved to defend itself from some types of antibiotics.

I think you are confusing micro- and macro-evolution. Even inerrantists (at least the ones I know) believe that species adapt to conditions and "evolve". What they don't believe is that one species "evolves" into another. An elephant, for instance, may someday develop a second trunk, but it will remain an elephant nonetheless.

[ne1410s]

I don't even know where to start with this so I won't. It's not worth it.

No, it isn't.

[ToLiveIsToFly]

I'm not sure that you want to pick this fight with me. I believe the Bible is inerrant. You are not going to change my mind regarding evolution.

I don't think I'm trying to pick a fight. I have about the same amount of problem with you believing your bible is inerrant as you probably have with me believing the first sentence in your bible is false, as is a great deal of what follows.

With regards to Ron Paul, I have read things about him that make me think he is a racist and an anti-semite. He has published numerous newsletters with articles written by people supporting David Duke and writers calling Martin Luther King jr. a pedophile. To me there is a huge difference between a candidate who doesn't believe in evolution and is a man who wants this country to be more God centered than one who is a racist anti-semite. But that's just me.

I guess it depends on what the racist and anti-semite actually wants to do about it and what the religious demagogue wants to do about it. I don't want someone who publishes racist filth to be President, but I'd rather that than someone who will try to make "this country to be more God centered" by making his interpretation of "God's law" the law of the land.

[Bob78164]

I'm not sure that you want to pick this fight with me. I believe the Bible is inerrant. You are not going to change my mind regarding evolution.

I don't think I'm trying to pick a fight. I have about the same amount of problem with you believing your bible is inerrant as you probably have with me believing the first sentence in your bible is false, as is a great deal of what follows.

I have a modest proposal for resolving this dispute. Let's each of you make predictions -- testable predictions -- from your respective hypotheses. Whoever's predictions turn out to comport with the real world wins. --Bob (who always wanted to know how many generations there were, measured patrilineally, between King David and Jesus of Nazareth)

[Tocqueville3]

I'm not sure that you want to pick this fight with me. I believe the Bible is inerrant. You are not going to change my mind regarding evolution.

I don't think I'm trying to pick a fight. I have about the same amount of problem with you believing your bible is inerrant as you probably have with me believing the first sentence in your bible is false, as is a great deal of what follows.

I have a modest proposal for resolving this dispute. Let's each of you make predictions -- testable predictions -- from your respective hypotheses. Whoever's predictions turn out to comport with the real world wins. --Bob (who always wanted to know how many generations there were, measured patrilineally, between King David and Jesus of Nazareth)

Umm...I don't think so.

[ne1410s]

how many generations there were, measured patrilineally, between King David and Jesus of Nazareth)

I just want to know who Cain married. And where the hell did SHE come from? ( Besides "east of Eden")

And did they stop putting candles on Noah's B'day cake after 500 or 600 or 700 or 800 or 900 years?

[earendel]

how many generations there were, measured patrilineally, between King David and Jesus of Nazareth)

I just want to know who Cain married. And where the hell did SHE come from? ( Besides "east of Eden")

OK, here's an answer for you. In Genesis 1 the Scriptures record that God created male and female (not "a man and a woman"). In Genesis 2 God creates a specific individual man named Adam, and later a specific individual woman named Eve. The story of the Garden of Eden and the Fall is representative of the experience of all human beings. Thus Cain got his wife from among those created by God (Gen. 1) but not taken to the Garden of Eden (Gen. 2).

[Jeemie]

I have a modest proposal for resolving this dispute. Let's each of you make predictions -- testable predictions -- from your respective hypotheses. Whoever's predictions turn out to comport with the real world wins.

I don't care who you are- this is some funny stuff right here!