NFL Pick'em Contest standings

[andrewjackson]

New playoff standings after week 15:

Teams in BOLD have clinched the playoffs.

NFC
1. (S) ATL 12-2
2. (N) CHI 10-4
3. (E) PHI 10-4
4. (W) STL 6-8
5. (WC) NOS 10-4
6. (WC) NYG 9-5
---------------
GBY 8-6
TBY 8-6


AFC
1. (E) NEP 12-2
2. (N) PIT 10-4
3. (W) KCC 9-5
4. (S) IND 8-6
5. (WC) BAL 10-4
6. (WC) NYJ 10-4
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SAN 8-6
JAC 8-6

[takinover]

According to the NFC West Blog on ESPN, 8 of the 16 possible scenarios would have a 7-9 NFC West team hosting a playoff game.

[andrewjackson]

According to the NFC West Blog on ESPN, 8 of the 16 possible scenarios would have a 7-9 NFC West team hosting a playoff game.

I'd say that's about right. The only way it doesn't happen is if St. Louis or Seattle wins both of their remaining games. If both lose this weekend then 7-9 is guaranteed.

St. Louis hosts San Francisco and then is at Seattle.
Seattle is at Tampa Bay and then hosts St. Louis.

St. Louis could certainly beat SF although they are only a two point favorite at home but then has to go to Seattle. Seattle is a 6 point underdog at Tampa but then gets the finale at home. I certainly wouldn't bet against each team splitting the final two games and winding up tied for first at 7-9. Hmmm. I guess the finale between St. Louis and Seattle could be a tie and a 6-9-1 team could host a playoff game.


San Francisco can also get into the mix by winning their last two games as long as Seattle loses one.

San Francisco is at St. Louis and then hosts Arizona.

[andrewjackson]

Get those Week 16 picks in.

Panthers at the Steelers on Thursday night and the Cowboys at the Cardinals on Saturday.

[andrewjackson]

Week 16 results:

MACRAE smoked the field this week going 12 for 16. Vandal was next best and that pulled him up in the overall to a 2nd place tie.

1 MACRAE1234 12
2 Vandal 10
3 TexianArmy 9
3 takinover 9
3 The Fryalator 9
3 ten96lt 9
7 Bob46187 8
7 Im_Ace 8
7 LB's Evil Squirrels 8
7 MarkBarrett17K 8
11 kusch0 7
11 2121peacock 7
11 earendel100 7
11 Grizzlies From Hell 7
15 Snake2048 5

New Overall Standings:

Bob stays in first but Vandal and Kusch still have a chance with one week to go.

1 Bob46187 154
2 Vandal 148
2 kusch0 148
4 Im_Ace 146
5 TexianArmy 145
6 LB's Evil Squirrels 143
7 Snake2048 141
7 2121peacock 141
7 takinover 141
10 The Fryalator 140
11 MarkBarrett17K 139
12 MACRAE1234 132
13 earendel100 130
13 ten96lt 130
15 Grizzlies From Hell 122
16 Ritterskoop1 104

[andrewjackson]

New playoff standings after week 16:

Teams in BOLD have clinched the playoffs.

NFC
1. (S) ATL 12-3
2. (N) CHI 11-4
3. (E) PHI 10-5
4. (W) STL 7-8
5. (WC) NOS 11-4
6. (WC) GBY 9-6
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NYG 9-6
TBY 9-6
SEA 6-9

The winner of the STL-SEA game will win the NFC West.
The final NFC Wildcard goes to Green Bay if they win or NYG and TBY both lose.
To the Giants if they win and Green Bay loses.
To the Bucs if they win and Green Bay and New York both lose.
Almost all the seeding can still change.

AFC
1. (E) NEP 13-2
2. (N) PIT 11-4
3. (W) KCC 10-5
4. (S) IND 9-6
5. (WC) BAL 11-4
6. (WC) NYJ 10-5
---------------
JAC 8-7

Indy claims the South Division with a win or a Jacksonville loss. Jacksonville needs to win and have the Colts lose.
New England is the only team that has locked up their seeding.

[littlebeast13]

New playoff standings after week 16:

Teams in BOLD have clinched the playoffs.

NFC
1. (S) ATL 12-3
2. (N) CHI 11-4
3. (E) PHI 10-5
4. (W) STL 7-8
5. (WC) NOS 11-4
6. (WC) GBY 9-6
---------------
NYG 9-6
TBY 9-6
SEA 6-9

The winner of the STL-SEA game will win the NFC West.
The final NFC Wildcard goes to Green Bay if they win or NYG and TBY both lose.
To the Giants if they win and Green Bay loses.
To the Bucs if they win and Green Bay and New York both lose.
Almost all the seeding can still change.

A win by New Orleans next week (Which should happen against TB, but that's why they play the games) would guarantee a 12 win team playing at the NFC West winner, who will have either 8, or hopefully just 7 wins. That will be sweet! I can't wait to hear the beyotching from Saints or Falcons fans over that little injustice of the league's playoff system.....

Also, I noticed that the NFL got cute and scheduled all divisional matchups for the final week. I can't stand schedule rigging in any sport... and while I realize that the schedule isn't just made up totally at random, it still unfolded in its own odd and unique ways.... and forcing all interdivisional games for Week 17 is about as blatant as that gets. And the NFL gets what it deserves, as the only matchup that is actually a do-or-die game for both teams, and is being thrust onto the national spotlight, is the "epic" battle between the teams atop its worst division in league history.....

lb13

[andrewjackson]

New playoff standings after week 16:

Teams in BOLD have clinched the playoffs.

NFC
1. (S) ATL 12-3
2. (N) CHI 11-4
3. (E) PHI 10-5
4. (W) STL 7-8
5. (WC) NOS 11-4
6. (WC) GBY 9-6
---------------
NYG 9-6
TBY 9-6
SEA 6-9

The winner of the STL-SEA game will win the NFC West.
The final NFC Wildcard goes to Green Bay if they win or NYG and TBY both lose.
To the Giants if they win and Green Bay loses.
To the Bucs if they win and Green Bay and New York both lose.
Almost all the seeding can still change.

A win by New Orleans next week (Which should happen against TB, but that's why they play the games) would guarantee a 12 win team playing at the NFC West winner, who will have either 8, or hopefully just 7 wins. That will be sweet! I can't wait to hear the beyotching from Saints or Falcons fans over that little injustice of the league's playoff system.....

Also, I noticed that the NFL got cute and scheduled all divisional matchups for the final week. I can't stand schedule rigging in any sport... and while I realize that the schedule isn't just made up totally at random, it still unfolded in its own odd and unique ways.... and forcing all interdivisional games for Week 17 is about as blatant as that gets. And the NFL gets what it deserves, as the only matchup that is actually a do-or-die game for both teams, and is being thrust onto the national spotlight, is the "epic" battle between the teams atop its worst division in league history.....

lb13

I like having the schedule this way with the divisional opponents all facing each other the final week. I wish they would do the final two weekends this way. I wouldn't even mind if the final three weeks were like this with all divisional games. Makes it more like the college football schedule. Or at least the way it is in real conferences (Big Ten) with almost all the non-conference games out of the way early in the year.

[Thousandaire]

Intradivisional.

[littlebeast13]

New playoff standings after week 16:

Teams in BOLD have clinched the playoffs.

NFC
1. (S) ATL 12-3
2. (N) CHI 11-4
3. (E) PHI 10-5
4. (W) STL 7-8
5. (WC) NOS 11-4
6. (WC) GBY 9-6
---------------
NYG 9-6
TBY 9-6
SEA 6-9

The winner of the STL-SEA game will win the NFC West.
The final NFC Wildcard goes to Green Bay if they win or NYG and TBY both lose.
To the Giants if they win and Green Bay loses.
To the Bucs if they win and Green Bay and New York both lose.
Almost all the seeding can still change.

A win by New Orleans next week (Which should happen against TB, but that's why they play the games) would guarantee a 12 win team playing at the NFC West winner, who will have either 8, or hopefully just 7 wins. That will be sweet! I can't wait to hear the beyotching from Saints or Falcons fans over that little injustice of the league's playoff system.....

Also, I noticed that the NFL got cute and scheduled all divisional matchups for the final week. I can't stand schedule rigging in any sport... and while I realize that the schedule isn't just made up totally at random, it still unfolded in its own odd and unique ways.... and forcing all interdivisional games for Week 17 is about as blatant as that gets. And the NFL gets what it deserves, as the only matchup that is actually a do-or-die game for both teams, and is being thrust onto the national spotlight, is the "epic" battle between the teams atop its worst division in league history.....

lb13

I like having the schedule this way with the divisional opponents all facing each other the final week. I wish they would do the final two weekends this way. I wouldn't even mind if the final three weeks were like this with all divisional games. Makes it more like the college football schedule. Or at least the way it is in real conferences (Big Ten) with almost all the non-conference games out of the way early in the year.

The ironic thing is, though, that you stand a better chance of making divisional matchups meaningless by forcing them towards the end of the season. Out of all those intradivisional matchups.... only one that's truly significant on both sides in the playoff race. The schedulemaker generally creates more meaningful final week games via whatever the normal method was.....

I just like for things to have that look of being random, even if it really isn't. Creates more points of interest.....

lb13

[andrewjackson]

A win by New Orleans next week (Which should happen against TB, but that's why they play the games) would guarantee a 12 win team playing at the NFC West winner, who will have either 8, or hopefully just 7 wins. That will be sweet! I can't wait to hear the beyotching from Saints or Falcons fans over that little injustice of the league's playoff system.....

Also, I noticed that the NFL got cute and scheduled all divisional matchups for the final week. I can't stand schedule rigging in any sport... and while I realize that the schedule isn't just made up totally at random, it still unfolded in its own odd and unique ways.... and forcing all interdivisional games for Week 17 is about as blatant as that gets. And the NFL gets what it deserves, as the only matchup that is actually a do-or-die game for both teams, and is being thrust onto the national spotlight, is the "epic" battle between the teams atop its worst division in league history.....

lb13

I like having the schedule this way with the divisional opponents all facing each other the final week. I wish they would do the final two weekends this way. I wouldn't even mind if the final three weeks were like this with all divisional games. Makes it more like the college football schedule. Or at least the way it is in real conferences (Big Ten) with almost all the non-conference games out of the way early in the year.

The ironic thing is, though, that you stand a better chance of making divisional matchups meaningless by forcing them towards the end of the season. Out of all those intradivisional matchups.... only one that's truly significant on both sides in the playoff race. The schedulemaker generally creates more meaningful final week games via whatever the normal method was.....

I just like for things to have that look of being random, even if it really isn't. Creates more points of interest.....

lb13

I'm not sure how being random would make more points of interest. Yes, there is only one game with both teams having a "win and in" scenario this time around but there are several that could have wound up that way. By having intradivisional games the last weekend I think you are increasing the chances of that happening.

The Tampa Bay v. New Orleans game could have been very significant. As it, it is pretty important to both teams. If New Orleans wins they would have the tie-breaker on Atlanta (if they lose) by having a better divisional record. Tampa Bay needs the win and help to make the playoffs. Playing a divisional rival also means that it is a conference game which affects the tie-breakers.

The Indianapolis v. Tennessee game is important because it is a divisional game. If the Colts lose and Jacksonville wins, the Jags win the tie-breaker because that Colts loss drops them to 3-3 in the division while Jacksonville would rise to 4-2. If they had already played all the divisional games, then the final game may or may not have been so important.

Hey, the Detroit v. Minnesota game is a big deal for me since it means that Detroit has a chance to finish in 3rd place for the first time since 2007. There are several other matchups that could have been for the divisional title.

Let's look at all the games:

MIA @ NE - means nothing
BUF @ NYJ - Jets need the win
CIN @ BAL - Baltimore needs the win
TB @ NO - important for both teams
CAR @ ATL - Atlanta needs the win
MIN @ DET - not much for anyone other than Detroit fans
OAK @ KC - means nothing
PIT @ CLE - Pittsburgh needs the win
JAC @ HOU - Jacksonville needs the win
ARI @ SF - means nothing
CHI @ GB - both teams need the win
TEN @ IND - Indy may need the win
SD @ DEN - means nothing
DAL @ PHI - Philly needs the win
NYG @ WAS - Giants need the win
STL @ SEA - both teams need the win

That's 5 of 16 with nothing on the line as far as the playoffs. Of the 11 other games, 8 of them only involve one team playing for the playoffs or seeding and 3 have both teams needing a win.

Now lets compare that to last year's week 17:

Fairly random except for most teams playing within the conference. A normal random weekend would have 11 of 16 games intraconference so 14 of 16 was probably intentional.

IND @ BUFF - meant nothing
NO @ CAR - meant nothing
JAC @ CLE - meant nothing
PHI @ DAL - both teams needed a win
CHI @ DET - meant nothing
NE @ HOU - both teams needed a win
PIT @ MIA - both teams needed a win
NYG @ MIN - meant nothing
CIN @ NYJ - both teams needed a win
SAN @ STL - meant nothing
ATL @ TB - meant nothing
GB @ ARI - meant nothing
KC @ DEN - Denver needed a win
BAL @ OAK - Baltimore needed a win
WAS @ SD - meant nothing
TEN @ SEA - meant nothing

That was 10 of 16 games that meant nothing. Of the other six games, in 4 of them both teams needed a win and only 2 just involved one of the two teams. None of the games last year were a winner-take-the-division game except the Dallas-Philly game which was one of the few intradivisional games. But both of those teams had already clinched the playoffs.

You can't say that having all divisional game in the final weekend this year made things more interesting but it is hard for me to see how making things more random helps.

[Bob78164]

The final week's picks are now available. I'll be happy if I've picked at least 11 winners. --Bob

[littlebeast13]

I like having the schedule this way with the divisional opponents all facing each other the final week. I wish they would do the final two weekends this way. I wouldn't even mind if the final three weeks were like this with all divisional games. Makes it more like the college football schedule. Or at least the way it is in real conferences (Big Ten) with almost all the non-conference games out of the way early in the year.

The ironic thing is, though, that you stand a better chance of making divisional matchups meaningless by forcing them towards the end of the season. Out of all those intradivisional matchups.... only one that's truly significant on both sides in the playoff race. The schedulemaker generally creates more meaningful final week games via whatever the normal method was.....

I just like for things to have that look of being random, even if it really isn't. Creates more points of interest.....

lb13

I'm not sure how being random would make more points of interest. Yes, there is only one game with both teams having a "win and in" scenario this time around but there are several that could have wound up that way. By having intradivisional games the last weekend I think you are increasing the chances of that happening.

The Tampa Bay v. New Orleans game could have been very significant. As it, it is pretty important to both teams. If New Orleans wins they would have the tie-breaker on Atlanta (if they lose) by having a better divisional record. Tampa Bay needs the win and help to make the playoffs. Playing a divisional rival also means that it is a conference game which affects the tie-breakers.

The Indianapolis v. Tennessee game is important because it is a divisional game. If the Colts lose and Jacksonville wins, the Jags win the tie-breaker because that Colts loss drops them to 3-3 in the division while Jacksonville would rise to 4-2. If they had already played all the divisional games, then the final game may or may not have been so important.

Hey, the Detroit v. Minnesota game is a big deal for me since it means that Detroit has a chance to finish in 3rd place for the first time since 2007. There are several other matchups that could have been for the divisional title.

Let's look at all the games:

MIA @ NE - means nothing
BUF @ NYJ - Jets need the win
CIN @ BAL - Baltimore needs the win
TB @ NO - important for both teams
CAR @ ATL - Atlanta needs the win
MIN @ DET - not much for anyone other than Detroit fans
OAK @ KC - means nothing
PIT @ CLE - Pittsburgh needs the win
JAC @ HOU - Jacksonville needs the win
ARI @ SF - means nothing
CHI @ GB - both teams need the win
TEN @ IND - Indy may need the win
SD @ DEN - means nothing
DAL @ PHI - Philly needs the win
NYG @ WAS - Giants need the win
STL @ SEA - both teams need the win

That's 5 of 16 with nothing on the line as far as the playoffs. Of the 11 other games, 8 of them only involve one team playing for the playoffs or seeding and 3 have both teams needing a win.

Now lets compare that to last year's week 17:

Fairly random except for most teams playing within the conference. A normal random weekend would have 11 of 16 games intraconference so 14 of 16 was probably intentional.

IND @ BUFF - meant nothing
NO @ CAR - meant nothing
JAC @ CLE - meant nothing
PHI @ DAL - both teams needed a win
CHI @ DET - meant nothing
NE @ HOU - both teams needed a win
PIT @ MIA - both teams needed a win
NYG @ MIN - meant nothing
CIN @ NYJ - both teams needed a win
SAN @ STL - meant nothing
ATL @ TB - meant nothing
GB @ ARI - meant nothing
KC @ DEN - Denver needed a win
BAL @ OAK - Baltimore needed a win
WAS @ SD - meant nothing
TEN @ SEA - meant nothing

That was 10 of 16 games that meant nothing. Of the other six games, in 4 of them both teams needed a win and only 2 just involved one of the two teams. None of the games last year were a winner-take-the-division game except the Dallas-Philly game which was one of the few intradivisional games. But both of those teams had already clinched the playoffs.

You can't say that having all divisional game in the final weekend this year made things more interesting but it is hard for me to see how making things more random helps.

And rob us of the beauty of games like the 1997 season finale between the Jets and Lions, which was actually a winner advances to the playoffs, loser goes home contest...... despite the fact that it was an interconference game!!!!! I love oddities like that.....

Give me random, or give me death.... please don't give me contrived and forced.....

lb13

[Bob78164]

And rob us of the beauty of games like the 1997 season finale between the Jets and Lions, which was actually a winner advances to the playoffs, loser goes home contest...... despite the fact that it was an interconference game!!!!! I love oddities like that.....

Give me random, or give me death.... please don't give me contrived and forced.....

lb13

I still remember (and miss) the days when the entire last month of the baseball season was nothing but divisional games. Of course, that was back in the days when there were only four divisions and no wild card team. --Bob

[littlebeast13]

And rob us of the beauty of games like the 1997 season finale between the Jets and Lions, which was actually a winner advances to the playoffs, loser goes home contest...... despite the fact that it was an interconference game!!!!! I love oddities like that.....

Give me random, or give me death.... please don't give me contrived and forced.....

lb13

I still remember (and miss) the days when the entire last month of the baseball season was nothing but divisional games. Of course, that was back in the days when there were only four divisions and no wild card team. --Bob

Don't forget the criteria that it only applied during the times when each division had an even number of teams. The AL hasn't had that opportunity since 1976....

lb13

[Bob78164]

And rob us of the beauty of games like the 1997 season finale between the Jets and Lions, which was actually a winner advances to the playoffs, loser goes home contest...... despite the fact that it was an interconference game!!!!! I love oddities like that.....

Give me random, or give me death.... please don't give me contrived and forced.....

lb13

I still remember (and miss) the days when the entire last month of the baseball season was nothing but divisional games. Of course, that was back in the days when there were only four divisions and no wild card team. --Bob

Don't forget the criteria that it only applied during the times when each division had an even number of teams. The AL hasn't had that opportunity since 1976....

lb13

I was always more of a National League fan. --Bob

[Thousandaire]

OAK @ KC - means nothing

Sacrilege! I'm putting you on ignore.

[peacock2121]

Football is stoopid.

Golf starts next weekend!

woo hoo

[littlebeast13]

Football is stoopid.

Golf starts next weekend!

woo hoo

You mean golf ever ends?

lb13

[Bob78164]

I'd like to thank the Academy . . . . --Bob

[andrewjackson]

I'd like to thank the Academy . . . . --Bob

Well done, sir. A totally deserved win after you took control in week 9 and then held on the rest of the way.

[Bob78164]

I'd like to thank the Academy . . . . --Bob

Well done, sir. A totally deserved win after you took control in week 9 and then held on the rest of the way.

Thanks. Obviously I had more than my share of luck along the way, particularly in the early weeks of the season. Then when kusch made his furious charge, picking up 10 points in 3 weeks, I thought we'd have a real fight to the finish.

It was fun, and it kept me engaged with the NFL in a way I haven't been for several years. If someone hosts it again next year, I'm sure I'll play. Thanks for taking the initiative this year, aj. --Bob

[andrewjackson]

Week 17 results:

Four way tie at the top this week. 13 of 16 is always pretty good no matter how many score it.

1 Bob46187 13
1 TexianArmy 13
1 takinover 13
1 MarkBarrett17K 13
5 ten96lt 12
6 Vandal 11
6 kusch 11
6 Snake2048 11
9 LB's Evil Squirrels 10
9 2121peacock 10
9 The Fryalator 10
9 Grizzlies From Hell 10
13 Im_Ace 9

Final Overall Standings:

Bob wins! 167 is almost 10 points per week. Pretty darn good. Vandal and Kusch tie for 2nd.

1 Bob46187 167
2 Vandal 159
2 kusch 159
4 TexianArmy 158
5 Im_Ace 155
6 takinover 154
7 LB's Evil Squirrels 153
8 Snake2048 152
8 MarkBarrett17K 152
10 2121peacock 151
11 The Fryalator 150
12 ten96lt 142
13 MACRAE1234 132
13 Grizzlies From Hell 132
15 earendel 130

[andrewjackson]

Final playoff standings:

NFC
1. (S) ATL 13-3
2. (N) CHI 11-5
3. (E) PHI 10-6
4. (W) SEA 7-9
5. (WC) NOS 11-5
6. (WC) GBY 10-6
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NYG 10-6
TBY 10-6

AFC
1. (E) NEP 14-2
2. (N) PIT 12-4
3. (S) IND 10-6
4. (W) KCC 10-6
5. (WC) BAL 12-4
6. (WC) NYJ 11-5
---------------
SDC 9-7

First round pairings:

Saturday, January 8
New Orleans @ Seattle, 4:30 pm EST on NBC
NY Jets @ Indianapolis, 8:00 pm EST on NBC

Sunday, January 9
Baltimore @ Kansas City, 1:00 pm EST on CBS
Green Bay @ Philadelphia, 4:30 pm EST on FOX

5 new teams in the playoffs that did not qualify last season:
Atlanta, Chicago, Seattle, Pittsburgh, and the KC Chiefs

[rayxtwo]

Well that sucked. The Rams lost four games before this one by a total of ten points. 4, 2, 1 and 3. Win just one of these games......



Ray