Fred Thompson Quits

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TheConfessor · #1 Post by **TheConfessor** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:27 pm

Just heard this on CNBC.

silverscreenselect · #2 Post by **silverscreenselect** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:49 pm

Unfortunately for him, Sam Waterston's already been promoted to his old job on Law and Order.

earendel · #3 Post by **earendel** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:08 pm

TheConfessor wrote:Just heard this on CNBC.

Can't say as I'm surprised. He never seemed to have the "fire in the belly" needed to run for president. He hemmed and hawed his way into finally announcing he was going to run and then didn't go after it like his hair was on fire (sorry for the cliches).

Jeemie · #4 Post by **Jeemie** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:10 pm

I thought that in order to quit the race, you actually had to start running in it.

wbtravis007 · #5 Post by **wbtravis007** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:25 pm

Jeemie wrote:I thought that in order to quit the race, you actually had to start running in it.

They showed a clip in "The Sunday Funnies" segment of "This Week with George S." of Leno saying something like: "Fred Thompson said that his campaign is going to be revitalized. Wouldn't it have to have been vitalized first?" (Far from an exact quote.)

It doesn't get much worse than getting dissed by the guy whose show you announced your candidacy on.

He was like an air balloon. Never got off the ground at all.

Jeemie · #6 Post by **Jeemie** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:41 pm

wbtravis007 wrote:He was like an air balloon. Never got off the ground at all.

And Rudy couldn't fit his giant ego through the starting gate.

Thompson never getting started is understandable, but Giuliani- never saw so much hype go to a candidate who went nowhere fast.

NellyLunatic1980 · #7 Post by **NellyLunatic1980** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:52 pm

<ForrestGump> "I'm pretty tired. I guess I'll go home now." </FG>

silverscreenselect · #8 Post by **silverscreenselect** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:25 pm

NellyLunatic1980 wrote:<ForrestGump> "I'm pretty tired. I guess I'll go home now." </FG>

As the old saying goes, "You snooze, you lose."

In Fred's case, literally true.

5LD · #9 Post by **5LD** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:29 pm

I wish I could find the link to it.....there was a clip of Thompson speaking to some Republican voters/caucus goers in Iowa, I think and there were two people snoozing (it appeared) in the front row. Thompson made a point that for other candidates would have been an applause line and it didn't happen so Thompson asked them to applaud for him. They did but it was weak. Knew then it was only a matter of time.

ne1410s · #10 Post by **ne1410s** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:02 pm

When Dorothy Parker was told that Cal Coolidge had died she said,

"How can they tell?"

Kinda reminds me of this news...

BackInTex · #11 Post by **BackInTex** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:15 pm

How can we tell?

Post post comment: Damn! NE1410S beat me to it.

Bixby17 · #12 Post by **Bixby17** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:01 pm

So, who is left on the Republican side?

McCain the old guy
Romney the dog abuser
Huckabee the theocrat who wants to change the US Constitution to make it comply with God stuff
Guiliani the politico who can't even win his own state
Paul the wacko with unacceptable shoes

Meh. And you don't even want to hear my description of the Dems because it ain't any kinder.

It reminds me of this South Park episode:

http://www.tv.com/south-park/douche-and ... mmary.html

Let's get out and vote!
Let's make our voices heard!
We've been given the right to choose
Between a douche and a turd
It's democracy in action,
Put your freedom to the test,
A big fat turd or a stupid douche,
Which do you like best?

CalvinCoolidgeIsASexyBeas · #13 Post by **CalvinCoolidgeIsASexyBeas** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:08 pm

ne1410s wrote:When Dorothy Parker was told that Cal Coolidge had died she said,

"How can they tell?"

Kinda reminds me of this news...

Why are you dissing Cal?

TheCalvinator24 · #14 Post by **TheCalvinator24** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:27 pm

Bixby17 wrote:So, who is left on the Republican side?

Huckabee the theocrat who wants to change the US Constitution to make it comply with God stuff

Huckabee is no theocrat.

Calling him one is either intellectually lazy or intellectually dishonest.

mrkelley23 · #15 Post by **mrkelley23** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:41 pm

TheCalvinator24 wrote:
Bixby17 wrote:So, who is left on the Republican side?

Huckabee the theocrat who wants to change the US Constitution to make it comply with God stuff
Huckabee is no theocrat.

Calling him one is either intellectually lazy or intellectually dishonest.

From Dictionary.com

theocrat: a person who rules, governs as a representative of God or a deity....

From Huckabee's "Issues" page on www.mikehuckabee.com:

"My faith is my life - it defines me. My faith doesn't influence my decisions, it drives them. For example, when it comes to the environment, I believe in being a good steward of the earth. I don't separate my faith from my personal and professional lives."

" I support and have always supported passage of a constitutional amendment to protect the right to life. My convictions regarding the sanctity of life have always been
clear and consistent, without equivocation or wavering. I believe that Roe v. Wade should be over-turned."

Bix's one sentence summary sounds neither dishonest nor lazy, any more than someone saying Hillary Clinton is a socialist in a pants suit. Especially when it's clear from context that she was more interested in snark than accuracy. I think Ron Paul wears very acceptable shoes, myself.

ne1410s · #16 Post by **ne1410s** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:55 pm

I like Mike Huckabee. I really do. But, one Jimmy Carter in my lifetime is enough.

Buffacuse · #17 Post by **Buffacuse** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:32 pm

He acted like he wanted the job but wanted none of the circus that goes with getting it...who can blame him for that?

Beebs52 · #18 Post by **Beebs52** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:35 pm

Bixby17 wrote:http://www.tv.com/south-park/douche-and ... mmary.html

Let's get out and vote!
Let's make our voices heard!
We've been given the right to choose
Between a douche and a turd
It's democracy in action,
Put your freedom to the test,
A big fat turd or a stupid douche,
Which do you like best?

I have a feeling there will be many on this bored from both sides sifting through the sewage from both sides singing this song.

And, I think sometimes some of our "faith-based" candidates forget that while we are in this world but not of it our country does have a certain secular operation to it which requires very distinct deliberation on many issues. Not that one should abandon what one believes is right or wrong but that one's faith may differ, even in Christian circles, on what is "Godly" or not. Doctrine varies just like mileage.

Bixby17 · #19 Post by **Bixby17** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:08 pm

mrkelley23 wrote:
TheCalvinator24 wrote:
Bixby17 wrote:So, who is left on the Republican side?

Huckabee the theocrat who wants to change the US Constitution to make it comply with God stuff
Huckabee is no theocrat.

Calling him one is either intellectually lazy or intellectually dishonest.
From Dictionary.com

theocrat: a person who rules, governs as a representative of God or a deity....

From Huckabee's "Issues" page on www.mikehuckabee.com:

"My faith is my life - it defines me. My faith doesn't influence my decisions, it drives them. For example, when it comes to the environment, I believe in being a good steward of the earth. I don't separate my faith from my personal and professional lives."

" I support and have always supported passage of a constitutional amendment to protect the right to life. My convictions regarding the sanctity of life have always been
clear and consistent, without equivocation or wavering. I believe that Roe v. Wade should be over-turned."

Bix's one sentence summary sounds neither dishonest nor lazy, any more than someone saying Hillary Clinton is a socialist in a pants suit. Especially when it's clear from context that she was more interested in snark than accuracy. I think Ron Paul wears very acceptable shoes, myself.

I think Huckabee is a very likeable person. There are some admirable things he has done as governor.

However, this FREAKS me out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onHkywYc_1M

"I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution. But I believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God. And that's what we need to do -- to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view."

Gah. No no no and no.

I don't want anybody touching the Constitution, even to change it in a way that might benefit my personal beliefs.

I am done with US Presidents who I end up having concerns that they might think they are a part of the end of times or something.

Beebs52 · #20 Post by **Beebs52** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:51 pm

"When discussing faith and politics, we should honor the "candid" in candidate - I have much more respect for an honest atheist than a disingenuous believer."

A quote from Huckabee's website. This is an intriguing statement. It's also a bit disingenuous on his part, possibly pandering to those who are out and out non believers of any sort. Hey! At least he knows where you're coming from. As opposed to defining where the other Christian may be coming from. I would like to know his definition of a disingenuous believer. Because his doctrine doesn't align with mine on some issues.

Appa23 · #21 Post by **Appa23** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:53 pm

Bixby17 wrote:
mrkelley23 wrote:
TheCalvinator24 wrote: Huckabee is no theocrat.

Calling him one is either intellectually lazy or intellectually dishonest.
From Dictionary.com

theocrat: a person who rules, governs as a representative of God or a deity....

From Huckabee's "Issues" page on www.mikehuckabee.com:

"My faith is my life - it defines me. My faith doesn't influence my decisions, it drives them. For example, when it comes to the environment, I believe in being a good steward of the earth. I don't separate my faith from my personal and professional lives."

" I support and have always supported passage of a constitutional amendment to protect the right to life. My convictions regarding the sanctity of life have always been
clear and consistent, without equivocation or wavering. I believe that Roe v. Wade should be over-turned."

Bix's one sentence summary sounds neither dishonest nor lazy, any more than someone saying Hillary Clinton is a socialist in a pants suit. Especially when it's clear from context that she was more interested in snark than accuracy. I think Ron Paul wears very acceptable shoes, myself.
I think Huckabee is a very likeable person. There are some admirable things he has done as governor.

However, this FREAKS me out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onHkywYc_1M

"I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution. But I believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God. And that's what we need to do -- to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view."

Gah. No no no and no.

I don't want anybody touching the Constitution, even to change it in a way that might benefit my personal beliefs.

I am done with US Presidents who I end up having concerns that they might think they are a part of the end of times or something.

Just to be clear and not take things out of context, Huckabee was referencing Roe v. Wade and marriage in those off-the-cuff remarks. (As there are candidates, like Rudy, who are not Pro-Life.) He said nothing beyond those two areas. Hence, no theocracy, especially since he never has stated that he would be acting as God's rep as President.

wbtravis007 · #22 Post by **wbtravis007** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:12 pm

Bixby wrote:

I am done with US Presidents who I end up having concerns that they might think they are a part of the end of times or something.

Rec!

If you're gonna run for President and say that you believe in a real-time Genesis, don't blame me for being worried about the other stuff.

TheCalvinator24 · #23 Post by **TheCalvinator24** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:31 pm

Beebs52 wrote:"When discussing faith and politics, we should honor the "candid" in candidate - I have much more respect for an honest atheist than a disingenuous believer."

A quote from Huckabee's website. This is an intriguing statement. It's also a bit disingenuous on his part, possibly pandering to those who are out and out non believers of any sort. Hey! At least he knows where you're coming from. As opposed to defining where the other Christian may be coming from. I would like to know his definition of a disingenuous believer. Because his doctrine doesn't align with mine on some issues.

You can call Mike Huckabee a lot of things, but the one thing that I don't think sticks at all is disingenuous.

wbtravis007 · #24 Post by **wbtravis007** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:57 pm

TheCalvinator24 wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:"When discussing faith and politics, we should honor the "candid" in candidate - I have much more respect for an honest atheist than a disingenuous believer."

A quote from Huckabee's website. This is an intriguing statement. It's also a bit disingenuous on his part, possibly pandering to those who are out and out non believers of any sort. Hey! At least he knows where you're coming from. As opposed to defining where the other Christian may be coming from. I would like to know his definition of a disingenuous believer. Because his doctrine doesn't align with mine on some issues.
You can call Mike Huckabee a lot of things, but the one thing that I don't think sticks at all is disingenuous.

I'm curious about what would be on your list (if anything) of "a lot of things" that you could call Mike Huckabee that would be unfavorable characterizations.

I wouldn't rule out the possibility that he's disingenuous in some way or another, or say that I'm totally convinced that he's absolutely ingenuous.

Would you?

NellyLunatic1980 · #25 Post by **NellyLunatic1980** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:24 am

Bixby17 wrote:It reminds me of this South Park episode:

http://www.tv.com/south-park/douche-and ... mmary.html

Let's get out and vote!
Let's make our voices heard!
We've been given the right to choose
Between a douche and a turd
It's democracy in action,
Put your freedom to the test,
A big fat turd or a stupid douche,
Which do you like best?

I'm reminded of something that Bobcat Goldthwait said many years ago: "Voting is like walking into an adult store and trying to decide which is going to be the least painful dildo."

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