Transcript 02/09/2010 Darren Turner

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Darren Turner
Dacula, GA
Unemployed veteran, served 15mos in Iraq, may go back into the military
He said they had to tap into their savings which are now gone.

Topic Tree
Just Married
1964
Shakespeare
The Civil War
Poetry
The Human Body
Tom Hanks
The Nobel Prize
Who Am I?
Veggies
Proverbs
Holiday Specials
Family Business
World Music
Slang

$500 (Slang):
Which of these animals shares its name with a slang term for "crazy"?
A. Donkey B. Cuckoo
C. Turtle D. Megan Fox

Spoiler

B. Cuckoo (:09)

$1000 (World Music):
The Guinness record for the world's largest mariachi band was set in 2009 by 549 musicians in what country, the music's birthplace?
A. France B. Australia
C. Egypt D. Mexico

Spoiler

D. Mexico (:09)

$2000 (Family Business):
In 1946, Joseph Lauder and his wife Estée founded a company that specialized in manufacturing what?
A. Cosmetics B. Cookware
C. Household Cleaners D. Candles

Spoiler

A. Cosmetics [:08]

$3000 (Holiday Specials):
In the classic 1966 "Peanuts" Halloween TV special, Linus convinces Sally to wait with him for what magical holiday visitor?
A. The Spooky Ghost B. The Candyman
C. The Happy Skeleton D. The Great Pumpkin

ATA at :06

Spoiler

A-3% B-1% C-1% D-95%

Spoiler

D. The Great Pumpkin (:05)

Commercial break

They show Darren's three children in the age ranges 3-8. Darren said he will be teased by them as they probably know pumpkin. He will never forget pumpkin. When they found out he would be on WWTBAM, they brought out a dictionary an opened it to the P section. Mere says pumpkin is also a P word.


$5000 (Proverbs):
Roughly, what is the meaning of the Chinese proverb "The snow goose need not bathe to make itself white"?
A. Live in the present B. Eat healthily
C. Be yourself D. Respect your elders

Spoiler

C. Be yourself (:07)

$7500 (Veggies):
Mortgage Lifter, Cherokee Purple, and Green Zebra are some of the colorful names given to heirloom varieties of what vegetable?
A. Mushroom B. Tomato
C. Corn D. Squash

DD at :11

DD and answer

Darren's first answer is D which is incorrect
His second answer is A which is also incorrect

B. Tomato - second incorrect answer was at :08

Darren left with $5000.

Commercial break

winning Valpak answer

A. Cosmetics

sneak peek at tomorrow

$3000
According to the official Scrabble dictionary, which of the following is not a valid three-letter word?
A. BRR B. TSK
C. NTH D. AWF

[Snaxx]

Regarding the spoiler preview question...

Spoiler

WTF! I suppose Frank T would like it, but that was godawful for a 15-second clock. I suppose that was one of the lifeline questions in the other spoiler category. Nice question w/o a clock, or with a longer clock, though.

[andrewjackson]

sneak peek at tomorrow

$3000
According to the official Scrabble dictionary, which of the following is not a valid three-letter word?
A. BRR B. TSK
C. NTH D. AWF

More evidence of why I hate the

Spoiler

official Scrabble dictionary

.

[earendel]

Darren Turner
Dacula, GA
Unemployed veteran, served 15mos in Iraq, may go back into the military
He said they had to tap into their savings which are now gone.

I wish him well if he decides to re-up.

$3000 (Holiday Specials):
In the classic 1966 "Peanuts" Halloween TV special, Linus convinces Sally to wait with him for what magical holiday visitor?
A. The Spooky Ghost B. The Candyman
C. The Happy Skeleton D. The Great Pumpkin

ATA at :06

Spoiler

A-3% B-1% C-1% D-95%

Spoiler

D. The Great Pumpkin (:05)

I guess he's never seen "It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown".

$7500 (Veggies):
Mortgage Lifter, Cherokee Purple, and Green Zebra are some of the colorful names given to heirloom varieties of what vegetable?
A. Mushroom B. Tomato
C. Corn D. Squash

DD at :11

DD and answer

Darren's first answer is D which is incorrect
His second answer is A which is also incorrect

B. Tomato - second incorrect answer was at :08

Leaving aside the discussion of whether a tomato (or a mushroom) is a vegetable, I don't recall hearing the term "heirloom" associated with anything other than tomatoes.

[andrewjackson]

Darren Turner
Dacula, GA
Unemployed veteran, served 15mos in Iraq, may go back into the military
He said they had to tap into their savings which are now gone.

I wish him well if he decides to re-up.

$3000 (Holiday Specials):
In the classic 1966 "Peanuts" Halloween TV special, Linus convinces Sally to wait with him for what magical holiday visitor?
A. The Spooky Ghost B. The Candyman
C. The Happy Skeleton D. The Great Pumpkin

ATA at :06

Spoiler

A-3% B-1% C-1% D-95%

Spoiler

D. The Great Pumpkin (:05)

I guess he's never seen "It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown".

$7500 (Veggies):
Mortgage Lifter, Cherokee Purple, and Green Zebra are some of the colorful names given to heirloom varieties of what vegetable?
A. Mushroom B. Tomato
C. Corn D. Squash

DD at :11

DD and answer

Darren's first answer is D which is incorrect
His second answer is A which is also incorrect

B. Tomato - second incorrect answer was at :08

Leaving aside the discussion of whether a tomato (or a mushroom) is a vegetable, I don't recall hearing the term "heirloom" associated with anything other than tomatoes.

There is definitely heirloom corn and squash. Don't know about mushrooms.

[NellyLunatic1980]

$7500 (Veggies):
Mortgage Lifter, Cherokee Purple, and Green Zebra are some of the colorful names given to heirloom varieties of what vegetable?
A. Mushroom B. Tomato
C. Corn D. Squash

No further comment.

Nihil obstat®

[wintergreen48]

Darren Turner
Dacula, GA
Unemployed veteran, served 15mos in Iraq, may go back into the military
He said they had to tap into their savings which are now gone.

I wish him well if he decides to re-up.

$3000 (Holiday Specials):
In the classic 1966 "Peanuts" Halloween TV special, Linus convinces Sally to wait with him for what magical holiday visitor?
A. The Spooky Ghost B. The Candyman
C. The Happy Skeleton D. The Great Pumpkin

ATA at :06

Spoiler

A-3% B-1% C-1% D-95%

Spoiler

D. The Great Pumpkin (:05)

I guess he's never seen "It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown".

$7500 (Veggies):
Mortgage Lifter, Cherokee Purple, and Green Zebra are some of the colorful names given to heirloom varieties of what vegetable?
A. Mushroom B. Tomato
C. Corn D. Squash

DD at :11

DD and answer

Darren's first answer is D which is incorrect
His second answer is A which is also incorrect

B. Tomato - second incorrect answer was at :08

Leaving aside the discussion of whether a tomato (or a mushroom) is a vegetable, I don't recall hearing the term "heirloom" associated with anything other than tomatoes.

There is definitely heirloom corn and squash. Don't know about mushrooms.

Them too. I think that the 'heirloom' term is thrown around pretty wildly, usually to indicate something that's not the result of extensive hybridization.

[MarleysGh0st]

Darren Turner
Dacula, GA
Unemployed veteran, served 15mos in Iraq, may go back into the military
He said they had to tap into their savings which are now gone.

I wish him well if he decides to re-up.

Yeah, with all the economy-related hooks TPTB have been featuring, this one really touched me. He'll almost certainly face leaving his family for another deployment if he re-enlists.

[Thousandaire]

Squash is the only thing on that list that's a vegetable.

[andrewjackson]

Squash is the only thing on that list that's a vegetable.

Wrong. They are all vegetables. And squash is a botanical fruit as well.

Main Entry: 1veg·e·ta·ble
Pronunciation: \ˈvej-tə-bəl, ˈve-jə-\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Medieval Latin vegetabilis vegetative, from vegetare to grow, from Latin, to animate, from vegetus lively, from vegēre to enliven — more at wake
Date: 15th century

1 a : of, relating to, constituting, or growing like plants b : consisting of plants : vegetational
2 : made from, obtained from, or containing plants or plant products <vegetable soup> <vegetable fat>
3 : resembling or suggesting a plant (as in inertness or passivity)

Which of those definitions excludes botanical fruits? Can you find any definition of vegetable that excludes fruits?

There are many different plant parts that are considered vegetables:
Tomato = fruit that is a vegetable
Lettuce = leaf that is a vegetable
Potato = tuber that is a vegetable
Beet = root that is a vegetable
Pea = seed that is a vegetable
Celery = stalk that is a vegetable

[wintergreen48]

Squash is the only thing on that list that's a vegetable.

Wrong. They are all vegetables. And squash is a botanical fruit as well.

Main Entry: 1veg·e·ta·ble
Pronunciation: \ˈvej-tə-bəl, ˈve-jə-\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Medieval Latin vegetabilis vegetative, from vegetare to grow, from Latin, to animate, from vegetus lively, from vegēre to enliven — more at wake
Date: 15th century

1 a : of, relating to, constituting, or growing like plants b : consisting of plants : vegetational
2 : made from, obtained from, or containing plants or plant products <vegetable soup> <vegetable fat>
3 : resembling or suggesting a plant (as in inertness or passivity)

Which of those definitions excludes botanical fruits? Can you find any definition of vegetable that excludes fruits?

There are many different plant parts that are considered vegetables:
Tomato = fruit that is a vegetable
Lettuce = leaf that is a vegetable
Potato = tuber that is a vegetable
Beet = root that is a vegetable
Pea = seed that is a vegetable
Celery = stalk that is a vegetable

I do not think that mushrooms are vegetables: a mushroom is a fungus, and fungi are classified outside of the plant 'kingdom.'

[Thousandaire]

Squash is the only thing on that list that's a vegetable.

Wrong. They are all vegetables. And squash is a botanical fruit as well.

Main Entry: 1veg·e·ta·ble
Pronunciation: \ˈvej-tə-bəl, ˈve-jə-\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Medieval Latin vegetabilis vegetative, from vegetare to grow, from Latin, to animate, from vegetus lively, from vegēre to enliven — more at wake
Date: 15th century

1 a : of, relating to, constituting, or growing like plants b : consisting of plants : vegetational
2 : made from, obtained from, or containing plants or plant products <vegetable soup> <vegetable fat>
3 : resembling or suggesting a plant (as in inertness or passivity)

By your definition any plant is a vegetable, rendering the word meaningless. Mushrooms are fungi. A tomato is a fruit. Corn is a grain. Would you say wheat is a vegetable?

[andrewjackson]

Squash is the only thing on that list that's a vegetable.

Wrong. They are all vegetables. And squash is a botanical fruit as well.

Main Entry: 1veg·e·ta·ble
Pronunciation: \ˈvej-tə-bəl, ˈve-jə-\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Medieval Latin vegetabilis vegetative, from vegetare to grow, from Latin, to animate, from vegetus lively, from vegēre to enliven — more at wake
Date: 15th century

1 a : of, relating to, constituting, or growing like plants b : consisting of plants : vegetational
2 : made from, obtained from, or containing plants or plant products <vegetable soup> <vegetable fat>
3 : resembling or suggesting a plant (as in inertness or passivity)

By your definition any plant is a vegetable, rendering the word meaningless. Mushrooms are fungi. A tomato is a fruit. Corn is a grain. Would you say wheat is a vegetable?

I would say wheat could be a vegetable. It depends on how you eat it.

My point is that things are not necessarily fruits or vegetables. Those are not exclusionary categories. Things can be both.

Mushrooms is much more debatable. I'll grant that.

Again, give me a definition of vegetable that excludes things like tomatoes and corn.

[Thousandaire]

I would say wheat could be a vegetable. It depends on how you eat it.

My point is that things are not necessarily fruits or vegetables. Those are not exclusionary categories. Things can be both.

Mushrooms is much more debatable. I'll grant that.

Again, give me a definition of vegetable that excludes things like tomatoes and corn.

I eat wheat with my mouth. Do you live in South Park?

[andrewjackson]

I would say wheat could be a vegetable. It depends on how you eat it.

My point is that things are not necessarily fruits or vegetables. Those are not exclusionary categories. Things can be both.

Mushrooms is much more debatable. I'll grant that.

Again, give me a definition of vegetable that excludes things like tomatoes and corn.

I eat wheat with my mouth. Do you live in South Park?

No. I live in Houston. Don't get the reference.

If you eat wheat, as wheat, as part of a meal I might call it a vegetable. If you eat it as an ingredient in some prepared food such as bread or pasta then I'm probably not going to call it a vegetable.

Except in the general sense of all plants being vegetables.

[Thousandaire]

I would say wheat could be a vegetable. It depends on how you eat it.

My point is that things are not necessarily fruits or vegetables. Those are not exclusionary categories. Things can be both.

Mushrooms is much more debatable. I'll grant that.

Again, give me a definition of vegetable that excludes things like tomatoes and corn.

I eat wheat with my mouth. Do you live in South Park?

No. I live in Houston. Don't get the reference.

If you eat wheat, as wheat, as part of a meal I might call it a vegetable. If you eat it as an ingredient in some prepared food such as bread or pasta then I'm probably not going to call it a vegetable.

Except in the general sense of all plants being vegetables.

No one else would ever call it a vegetable. Which is my point.

[Jeemie]

No one else would ever call it a vegetable. Which is my point.

But many people WOULD call tomatoes or squash vegetables (mushrooms would be debatable).

As AJ pointed out, the words "fruit" and "vegetable" are NOT mutually exclusive.

[secondchance]

My heart broke for this guy. As for so many others lately, but he looked especially crestfallen.

[Jeemie]

Regarding the spoiler preview question...

Spoiler

WTF! I suppose Frank T would like it, but that was godawful for a 15-second clock. I suppose that was one of the lifeline questions in the other spoiler category. Nice question w/o a clock, or with a longer clock, though.

Spoiler

I don't know- three of the four are pretty obvious words. What is an AWF?

[Bob Juch]

Spoiler

I don't know- three of the four are pretty obvious words. What is an AWF?

Spoiler

An AWFul choice!

[tanstaafl2]

Regarding the spoiler preview question...

Spoiler

WTF! I suppose Frank T would like it, but that was godawful for a 15-second clock. I suppose that was one of the lifeline questions in the other spoiler category. Nice question w/o a clock, or with a longer clock, though.

Spoiler

I don't know- three of the four are pretty obvious words. What is an AWF?

The opposite of AWN, as in the two positions of a light switch. Well, here in the souwth anywho.