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#1 Post by ne1410s » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:25 pm

Would you please thank Coach Pete for taking it easy on my poor Illini??

Do you think it possible for USC to jump to the top if OSU and LSU stink up the Superdome next week?

I'm just sayin'...
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#2 Post by andrewjackson » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:46 pm

ne1410s wrote:Would you please thank Coach Pete for taking it easy on my poor Illini??

Do you think it possible for USC to jump to the top if OSU and LSU stink up the Superdome next week?

I'm just sayin'...
The Coaches are committed to voting for the winner of the BCS title game.
In the AP it is possible but it doesn't look every likely to me.

The most recent AP poll looked like this at the top:

1. Ohio State (50) 11-1 1,578
2. LSU (11) 11-2 1,519
3. Oklahoma (1) 11-2 1,423
4. Georgia (1) 10-2 1,421
5. Virginia Tech (1) 11-2 1,380
6. USC 10-2 1,346

LSU would have to win and look bad doing it. While they have done that a few times this year it seems unlikely they would lose the votes that they were already getting. An Ohio State win and it is all over. Georgia would look to have a better chance than USC. USC has to jump over too many teams.
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#3 Post by ulysses5019 » Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:24 pm

Would you please thank Coach Pete for taking it easy on my poor Illini??

Do you think it possible for USC to jump to the top if OSU and LSU stink up the Superdome next week?
Some of the Illini fans don't feel the same way you do.....they were booing the second and third stringers as they tried to score at the end of the game.
On the whole though, the Illini fans I met were nice and seemed to revel in the California sun.
A top five finish is the best SC can hope for. An SC-Georgia game would have been something.
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#4 Post by ne1410s » Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:44 pm

Some of the Illini fans don't feel the same way you do.....they were booing the second and third stringers as they tried to score at the end of the game.
SOME/MANY Illini fans weren't alive the last time Illinois was in the Rose Bowl. D'oh!!! :lol:

Anyway, congrats on the victory.

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#5 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:09 pm

ulysses5019 wrote: An SC-Georgia game would have been something.
It was on Sept 8, The Gamecocks beat the Dogs 16-12, reverse the score and Georgia is playing for the Championship.
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feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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#6 Post by ulysses5019 » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:20 pm

An SC-Georgia game would have been something.


It was on Sept 8, The Gamecocks beat the Dogs 16-12
Well there you go, our "sister" school already took care of that bit of business.
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#7 Post by Appa23 » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:16 am

ulysses5019 wrote:
Would you please thank Coach Pete for taking it easy on my poor Illini??

Do you think it possible for USC to jump to the top if OSU and LSU stink up the Superdome next week?
Some of the Illini fans don't feel the same way you do.....they were booing the second and third stringers as they tried to score at the end of the game.
I really like you, Uly, as you are nothing but a gentleman and a scholar, in my experience.

However, I have to agree with those Illini fans.

The Trojans had the opportunity to enter into the "victory formation" when the clock dipped below 60 seconds, and they did not . They had the opportunity to simply run the ball straight up the middle, and they did not.

I know that there are a growing number of sports fans who beleive that one team does not owe anything to the other team, and have a different notion of sportmanship than me. However, I still recall Osborne having his walk-on, third string QB taking repeated knees against Florida, at the one-yard line, after the Gators proved unable to stop the scrub RB and FB from running dives right up the middle.

Of course, Coach Pete also had Leinart still in the game failry late in the 4th Quarter of that blowout against OU. The Football Gods enacted their revenge by having Leinart give up a safety. (

To their credit, USC still should be a Top 4 team. (I am not sure whether Mizzou or USC deserve that third spot.)

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#8 Post by mrkelley23 » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:59 pm

Appa23 wrote:
ulysses5019 wrote:
Would you please thank Coach Pete for taking it easy on my poor Illini??

Do you think it possible for USC to jump to the top if OSU and LSU stink up the Superdome next week?
Some of the Illini fans don't feel the same way you do.....they were booing the second and third stringers as they tried to score at the end of the game.
I really like you, Uly, as you are nothing but a gentleman and a scholar, in my experience.

However, I have to agree with those Illini fans.

The Trojans had the opportunity to enter into the "victory formation" when the clock dipped below 60 seconds, and they did not . They had the opportunity to simply run the ball straight up the middle, and they did not.

I know that there are a growing number of sports fans who beleive that one team does not owe anything to the other team, and have a different notion of sportmanship than me. However, I still recall Osborne having his walk-on, third string QB taking repeated knees against Florida, at the one-yard line, after the Gators proved unable to stop the scrub RB and FB from running dives right up the middle.

Of course, Coach Pete also had Leinart still in the game failry late in the 4th Quarter of that blowout against OU. The Football Gods enacted their revenge by having Leinart give up a safety. (

To their credit, USC still should be a Top 4 team. (I am not sure whether Mizzou or USC deserve that third spot.)
As much as I agree with you about the "right" thing to do in these situations, Appa, the CFPTB have shown in the past that teams are rewarded for blowouts by achieving higher rankings in the polls, and teams who don't win by at least two TDs don't rise as high. My thinking is that Coach Carrill thought (no matter how unlikely it is) that if USC was going to have any chance at a share of a national championship, or even just higher poll rankings, they had to run up the score as much as possible.

Until the pollmakers build decency into the polls (as indeed it used to be, in some fashion at least, when Deity-in-waiting Tom Osborne was coach and the polls were done strictly by secret coach's ballots and sportswriters) we're going to see Belichickism all over the place, especially in bowl season.
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