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Multiple possible future BAM questions

#1 Post by mrkelley23 » Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:22 am

Hugo Chavez is certainly going to leave his mark on Venezuelan history, whatever else happens:

http://tinyurl.com/yp5w5h

FWIW, I heard on NPR on the drive in that Iran, Afghanistan, India, and Newfoundland (!) have half-hour time-shifts as well. I'd never heard this before.
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#2 Post by earendel » Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:23 am

mrkelley23 wrote:Hugo Chavez is certainly going to leave his mark on Venezuelan history, whatever else happens:

http://tinyurl.com/yp5w5h

FWIW, I heard on NPR on the drive in that Iran, Afghanistan, India, and Newfoundland (!) have half-hour time-shifts as well. I'd never heard this before.
My question would be "Why?" What is the advantage of being half an hour ahead or behind?
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#3 Post by gsabc » Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:06 am

The man is certifiable. He'll probably declare that pi = 3 next. Two-year-olds are less willful and defiant, and have a better sense of reality to boot.
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#4 Post by PlacentiaSoccerMom » Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:08 am

I am guessing that he will try to find a way of not stepping down when the time comes.

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#5 Post by MarleysGh0st » Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:13 am

earendel wrote: My question would be "Why?" What is the advantage of being half an hour ahead or behind?
According to the article:
The president said the change would improve health, as the sun will rise before most Venezuelans get up ensuring all go to work or school in daylight.

"These children have to get up at five in the morning... they arrive at school dead tired," said Mr Chavez. "And why? Because of our time."
And reading through the article, there's a link to another story from last year, reporting how he changed the flag.
The new design alters the coat of arms on the top left on the yellow, blue and red flag.

It now shows a white horse running towards the left, a reversal of the previous design where the animal ran to the right. The president described the old horse as "imperial".

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#6 Post by earendel » Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:41 am

MarleysGh0st wrote:
earendel wrote: My question would be "Why?" What is the advantage of being half an hour ahead or behind?
According to the article:
The president said the change would improve health, as the sun will rise before most Venezuelans get up ensuring all go to work or school in daylight.

"These children have to get up at five in the morning... they arrive at school dead tired," said Mr Chavez. "And why? Because of our time."
And reading through the article, there's a link to another story from last year, reporting how he changed the flag.
The new design alters the coat of arms on the top left on the yellow, blue and red flag.

It now shows a white horse running towards the left, a reversal of the previous design where the animal ran to the right. The president described the old horse as "imperial".
And did you note this quote in that linked article?

Wearing the red T-shirts signifying their support for the anti-American paratrooper-turned-politician, the crowd of around 20,000 paraded the new banner with members of the military, as F-16 combat aircraft flew overhead on Sunday evening.

Rather ironic, wouldn't you say?
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#7 Post by mrkelley23 » Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:43 am

And truly ironic in the original sense, rather than Morrissette-ish.
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#8 Post by andrewjackson » Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:08 am

I think Western Australia has a half-hour shift as well.

Whoops, just checked. It is South Australia. The Northern Territory is also on the half-hour but they don't go on Daylight time so they are an hour different than South Australia right now.
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#9 Post by Bob Juch » Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:47 am

earendel wrote: And did you note this quote in that linked article?

Wearing the red T-shirts signifying their support for the anti-American paratrooper-turned-politician, the crowd of around 20,000 paraded the new banner with members of the military, as F-16 combat aircraft flew overhead on Sunday evening.

Rather ironic, wouldn't you say?
Good luck getting replacement parts! I'm sure their jets will soon be like their taxis: running on home-made replacement parts.
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#10 Post by earendel » Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:48 am

Bob Juch wrote:
earendel wrote: And did you note this quote in that linked article?

Wearing the red T-shirts signifying their support for the anti-American paratrooper-turned-politician, the crowd of around 20,000 paraded the new banner with members of the military, as F-16 combat aircraft flew overhead on Sunday evening.

Rather ironic, wouldn't you say?
Good luck getting replacement parts! I'm sure their jets will soon be like their taxis: running on home-made replacement parts.
Much as I'd find that humorous, I think they will do all right. There are other air forces that field the F-16 and some of them might not be averse to selling replacement parts to Venezuela.
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#11 Post by Bob Juch » Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:58 am

earendel wrote:
Bob Juch wrote:
earendel wrote: And did you note this quote in that linked article?

Wearing the red T-shirts signifying their support for the anti-American paratrooper-turned-politician, the crowd of around 20,000 paraded the new banner with members of the military, as F-16 combat aircraft flew overhead on Sunday evening.

Rather ironic, wouldn't you say?
Good luck getting replacement parts! I'm sure their jets will soon be like their taxis: running on home-made replacement parts.
Much as I'd find that humorous, I think they will do all right. There are other air forces that field the F-16 and some of them might not be averse to selling replacement parts to Venezuela.
Probably other OPEC members.
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#12 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:39 am

Bob Juch wrote:
earendel wrote:
Bob Juch wrote: Good luck getting replacement parts! I'm sure their jets will soon be like their taxis: running on home-made replacement parts.
Much as I'd find that humorous, I think they will do all right. There are other air forces that field the F-16 and some of them might not be averse to selling replacement parts to Venezuela.
Probably other OPEC members.
Yeah, they can get them the same place Iran gets spare parts for its F-14s
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