New GroganGame: Films Not Starring Jerzy Trela

[NellyLunatic1980]

Revised compilation...

First, pair up the films in List A to make 20 pairs (one answer will be used twice). Then, match each pair to at least two films from List B, according to the Tangredi. One film from List B will stand alone, for reasons that will be obvious once the Tangredi is determined. Some films on List B will be used more than once - the exact number isn't important. Consider the puzzle finished if you have used each film from List B and have matched each pair of List A films with a minimum of two from List B.

(TV children from List A, TV parents from List B)

COMPLETE A/B PAIRINGS
"Everybody Loves Raymond" -- Ray Romano (A24. ICE AGE) and Brad Garrett (A36. FINDING NEMO); Peter Boyle (B2. YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN) and Doris Roberts (B23. THE TAKING OF PELHAM ONE TWO THREE)
"Bewitched" -- Elizabeth Montgomery (A28. THE COURT MARTIAL OF BILLY MITCHELL) and Dick York (A21. INHERIT THE WIND); Maurice Evans (B30. PLANET OF THE APES) and Agnes Moorehead (B22. JOHNNY BELINDA)
"The Sopranos: -- James Gandolfini (A3. THE MAN WHO WASN'T THERE) and Lorraine Bracco (A34. GOODFELLAS); Joseph Siravo (B13. CARLITO'S WAY) and Nancy Marchand (B36. THE NAKED GUN: FROM THE FILES OF POLICE SQUAD)
"Mad About You" -- Paul Reiser (A6. DINER) and Helen Hunt (A11. AS GOOD AS IT GETS); Carroll O'Connor (B40. KELLY'S HEROES) and Carol Burnett (B15. ANNIE)
"Home Improvement" -- Tim Allen (A9. GALAXY QUEST) and Jonathan Taylor Thomas (A33. TOM AND HUCK); M. Emmet Walsh (B14. MIDNIGHT COWBOY) and Polly Holliday (B6. GREMLINS)

PARTIAL A/B PAIRINGS
"The Mary Tyler Moore Show" -- Mary Tyler Moore (A4. ORDINARY PEOPLE); Nanette Fabray (B50. THE BAND WAGON) and Nancy Walker (B32. MURDER BY DEATH)
"Malcolm in the Middle" -- Frankie Muniz (A5. MY DOG SKIP) and Erik Per Sullivan (A36. FINDING NEMO); Bryan Cranston (B19. SAVING PRIVATE RYAN)



List A
A1. THE HAPPENING
A2. STEALING HARVARD
*A3. THE MAN WHO WASN'T THERE
*A4. ORDINARY PEOPLE
*A5. MY DOG SKIP
*A6. DINER
A7. THE BIRDS
A8. JAMES AND THE GIANT PEACH
*A9. GALAXY QUEST
A10. WHAT'S UP, DOC?
*A11. AS GOOD AS IT GETS
A12. TOMORROW NEVER DIES
A13. NIXON
A14. THE PEOPLE VS LARRY FLYNT
A15. THE ENGLISH PATIENT
A16. RUTHLESS PEOPLE
A17. SCREAM
A18. THE WEDDING DATE
A19. SLING BLADE
A20. NASHVILLE
*A21. INHERIT THE WIND
A22. THE BIG LEBOWSKI
A23. CATCH-22
*A24. ICE AGE
A25. THE BRADY BUNCH MOVIE
A26. REVENGE OF THE NERDS
A27. BLUE VELVET
*A28. THE COURT MARTIAL OF BILLY MITCHELL
A29. SIX DAYS, SEVEN NIGHTS
A30. IT'S A MAD MAD MAD MAD WORLD
A31. JFK
A32. THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING
*A33. TOM AND HUCK
*A34. GOODFELLAS
A35. DESPERATELY SEEKING SUSAN
**A36. FINDING NEMO
A37. CARNAL KNOWLEDGE
A38. SHALLOW HAL
A39. UNSTRUNG HEROES

List B
B1. BROADCAST NEWS
*B2. YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN
B3. THE STING
B4. ON THE WATERFRONT
B5. BRAZIL
*B6. GREMLINS
B7. PRIZZI'S HONOR
B8. WHATEVER HAPPENED TO BABY JANE
B9. THE RUNNING MAN
B10. DELIVERANCE
B11. DANGEROUS LIAISONS
B12. BONNIE AND CLYDE
*B13. CARLITO'S WAY
*B14. MIDNIGHT COWBOY
*B15. ANNIE
B16. MICHAEL CLAYTON
B17. TREMORS
B18. CHEECH & CHONG'S UP IN SMOKE
*B19. SAVING PRIVATE RYAN
B20. MATEWAN
B21. RESERVOIR DOGS
*B22. JOHNNY BELINDA
*B23. THE TAKING OF PELHAM ONE TWO THREE
B24. VICTOR/VICTORIA
B25. CAPE FEAR
B26. BOB & CAROL & TED & ALICE
B27. BREAKING AWAY
B28. 2010: ODYSSEY TWO
B29. BEST IN SHOW
*B30. PLANET OF THE APES
B31. MISERY
*B32. MURDER BY DEATH
B33. MEET THE PARENTS
B34. ANNIE HALL
B35. THE JERK
*B36. THE NAKED GUN: FROM THE FILES OF POLICE SQUAD
B37. A CHRISTMAS STORY
B38. 1776
B39. FORREST GUMP
*B40. KELLY'S HEROES
B41. PAPER MOON
B42. OUR TOWN
B43. VOLUNTEERS
B44. ZODIAC
B45. THE PRODUCERS
B46. A FUNNY THING HAPPENED ON THE WAY TO THE FORUM
B47. SINGIN' IN THE RAIN
B48. EIGHT MEN OUT
B49. ALFIE
*B50. THE BAND WAGON

[smilergrogan]

Nelly, I'm glad you're enthusiastic about completing the puzzle, but before you start looking up stuff all over the place, please let people have a chance to give their answers. Come on - you happen to know that M. Emmett Walsh played "Bus Passenger (uncredited)" in Midnight Cowboy and Bryan Cranston played "War Department Colonel" in Saving Private Ryan? No one in the puzzle is there for a film in which they were just an extra or had an insignificant role.

Revised compilation...

First, pair up the films in List A to make 20 pairs (one answer will be used twice). Then, match each pair to at least two films from List B, according to the Tangredi. One film from List B will stand alone, for reasons that will be obvious once the Tangredi is determined. Some films on List B will be used more than once - the exact number isn't important. Consider the puzzle finished if you have used each film from List B and have matched each pair of List A films with a minimum of two from List B.

(TV children from List A, TV parents from List B)

COMPLETE A/B PAIRINGS
"Everybody Loves Raymond" -- Ray Romano (A24. ICE AGE) and Brad Garrett (A36. FINDING NEMO); Peter Boyle (B2. YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN) and Doris Roberts (B23. THE TAKING OF PELHAM ONE TWO THREE)
"Bewitched" -- Elizabeth Montgomery (A28. THE COURT MARTIAL OF BILLY MITCHELL) and Dick York (A21. INHERIT THE WIND); Maurice Evans (B30. PLANET OF THE APES) and Agnes Moorehead (B22. JOHNNY BELINDA)
"The Sopranos: -- James Gandolfini (A3. THE MAN WHO WASN'T THERE) and Lorraine Bracco (A34. GOODFELLAS); Joseph Siravo (B13. CARLITO'S WAY) and Nancy Marchand (B36. THE NAKED GUN: FROM THE FILES OF POLICE SQUAD)
"Mad About You" -- Paul Reiser (A6. DINER) and Helen Hunt (A11. AS GOOD AS IT GETS); Carroll O'Connor (B40. KELLY'S HEROES) and Carol Burnett (B15. ANNIE)
"Home Improvement" -- Tim Allen (A9. GALAXY QUEST) and Jonathan Taylor Thomas (A33. TOM AND HUCK); M. Emmet Walsh (B14. MIDNIGHT COWBOY) and Polly Holliday (B6. GREMLINS)

PARTIAL A/B PAIRINGS
"The Mary Tyler Moore Show" -- Mary Tyler Moore (A4. ORDINARY PEOPLE); Nanette Fabray (B50. THE BAND WAGON) and Nancy Walker (B32. MURDER BY DEATH)
"Malcolm in the Middle" -- Frankie Muniz (A5. MY DOG SKIP) and Erik Per Sullivan (A36. FINDING NEMO); Bryan Cranston (B19. SAVING PRIVATE RYAN)



List A
A1. THE HAPPENING
A2. STEALING HARVARD
*A3. THE MAN WHO WASN'T THERE
*A4. ORDINARY PEOPLE
*A5. MY DOG SKIP
*A6. DINER
A7. THE BIRDS
A8. JAMES AND THE GIANT PEACH
*A9. GALAXY QUEST
A10. WHAT'S UP, DOC?
*A11. AS GOOD AS IT GETS
A12. TOMORROW NEVER DIES
A13. NIXON
A14. THE PEOPLE VS LARRY FLYNT
A15. THE ENGLISH PATIENT
A16. RUTHLESS PEOPLE
A17. SCREAM
A18. THE WEDDING DATE
A19. SLING BLADE
A20. NASHVILLE
*A21. INHERIT THE WIND
A22. THE BIG LEBOWSKI
A23. CATCH-22
*A24. ICE AGE
A25. THE BRADY BUNCH MOVIE
A26. REVENGE OF THE NERDS
A27. BLUE VELVET
*A28. THE COURT MARTIAL OF BILLY MITCHELL
A29. SIX DAYS, SEVEN NIGHTS
A30. IT'S A MAD MAD MAD MAD WORLD
A31. JFK
A32. THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING
*A33. TOM AND HUCK
*A34. GOODFELLAS
A35. DESPERATELY SEEKING SUSAN
**A36. FINDING NEMO
A37. CARNAL KNOWLEDGE
A38. SHALLOW HAL
A39. UNSTRUNG HEROES

List B
B1. BROADCAST NEWS
*B2. YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN
B3. THE STING
B4. ON THE WATERFRONT
B5. BRAZIL
*B6. GREMLINS
B7. PRIZZI'S HONOR
B8. WHATEVER HAPPENED TO BABY JANE
B9. THE RUNNING MAN
B10. DELIVERANCE
B11. DANGEROUS LIAISONS
B12. BONNIE AND CLYDE
*B13. CARLITO'S WAY
*B14. MIDNIGHT COWBOY
*B15. ANNIE
B16. MICHAEL CLAYTON
B17. TREMORS
B18. CHEECH & CHONG'S UP IN SMOKE
*B19. SAVING PRIVATE RYAN
B20. MATEWAN
B21. RESERVOIR DOGS
*B22. JOHNNY BELINDA
*B23. THE TAKING OF PELHAM ONE TWO THREE
B24. VICTOR/VICTORIA
B25. CAPE FEAR
B26. BOB & CAROL & TED & ALICE
B27. BREAKING AWAY
B28. 2010: ODYSSEY TWO
B29. BEST IN SHOW
*B30. PLANET OF THE APES
B31. MISERY
*B32. MURDER BY DEATH
B33. MEET THE PARENTS
B34. ANNIE HALL
B35. THE JERK
*B36. THE NAKED GUN: FROM THE FILES OF POLICE SQUAD
B37. A CHRISTMAS STORY
B38. 1776
B39. FORREST GUMP
*B40. KELLY'S HEROES
B41. PAPER MOON
B42. OUR TOWN
B43. VOLUNTEERS
B44. ZODIAC
B45. THE PRODUCERS
B46. A FUNNY THING HAPPENED ON THE WAY TO THE FORUM
B47. SINGIN' IN THE RAIN
B48. EIGHT MEN OUT
B49. ALFIE
*B50. THE BAND WAGON

[NellyLunatic1980]

In that case, let's put THE JERK with M. Emmet Walsh instead of MIDNIGHT COWBOY.

[franktangredi]

Revised compilation...

First, pair up the films in List A to make 20 pairs (one answer will be used twice). Then, match each pair to at least two films from List B, according to the Tangredi. One film from List B will stand alone, for reasons that will be obvious once the Tangredi is determined. Some films on List B will be used more than once - the exact number isn't important. Consider the puzzle finished if you have used each film from List B and have matched each pair of List A films with a minimum of two from List B.

(TV children from List A, TV parents from List B)

COMPLETE A/B PAIRINGS
"Everybody Loves Raymond" -- Ray Romano (A24. ICE AGE) and Brad Garrett (A36. FINDING NEMO); Peter Boyle (B2. YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN) and Doris Roberts (B23. THE TAKING OF PELHAM ONE TWO THREE)
"Bewitched" -- Elizabeth Montgomery (A28. THE COURT MARTIAL OF BILLY MITCHELL) and Dick York (A21. INHERIT THE WIND); Maurice Evans (B30. PLANET OF THE APES) and Agnes Moorehead (B22. JOHNNY BELINDA)
"The Sopranos: -- James Gandolfini (A3. THE MAN WHO WASN'T THERE) and Lorraine Bracco (A34. GOODFELLAS); Joseph Siravo (B13. CARLITO'S WAY) and Nancy Marchand (B36. THE NAKED GUN: FROM THE FILES OF POLICE SQUAD)
"Mad About You" -- Paul Reiser (A6. DINER) and Helen Hunt (A11. AS GOOD AS IT GETS); Carroll O'Connor (B40. KELLY'S HEROES) and Carol Burnett (B15. ANNIE)
"Home Improvement" -- Tim Allen (A9. GALAXY QUEST) and Jonathan Taylor Thomas (A33. TOM AND HUCK); M. Emmet Walsh (B14. MIDNIGHT COWBOY) and Polly Holliday (B6. GREMLINS)

PARTIAL A/B PAIRINGS
"The Mary Tyler Moore Show" -- Mary Tyler Moore (A4. ORDINARY PEOPLE); Nanette Fabray (B50. THE BAND WAGON) and Nancy Walker (B32. MURDER BY DEATH)
"Malcolm in the Middle" -- Frankie Muniz (A5. MY DOG SKIP) and Erik Per Sullivan (A36. FINDING NEMO); Bryan Cranston (B19. SAVING PRIVATE RYAN)



List A
A1. THE HAPPENING
A2. STEALING HARVARD
*A3. THE MAN WHO WASN'T THERE
*A4. ORDINARY PEOPLE
*A5. MY DOG SKIP
*A6. DINER
A7. THE BIRDS
A8. JAMES AND THE GIANT PEACH
*A9. GALAXY QUEST
A10. WHAT'S UP, DOC?
*A11. AS GOOD AS IT GETS
A12. TOMORROW NEVER DIES
A13. NIXON
A14. THE PEOPLE VS LARRY FLYNT
A15. THE ENGLISH PATIENT
A16. RUTHLESS PEOPLE
A17. SCREAM
A18. THE WEDDING DATE
A19. SLING BLADE
A20. NASHVILLE
*A21. INHERIT THE WIND
A22. THE BIG LEBOWSKI
A23. CATCH-22
*A24. ICE AGE
A25. THE BRADY BUNCH MOVIE
A26. REVENGE OF THE NERDS
A27. BLUE VELVET
*A28. THE COURT MARTIAL OF BILLY MITCHELL
A29. SIX DAYS, SEVEN NIGHTS
A30. IT'S A MAD MAD MAD MAD WORLD
A31. JFK
A32. THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING
*A33. TOM AND HUCK
*A34. GOODFELLAS
A35. DESPERATELY SEEKING SUSAN
**A36. FINDING NEMO
A37. CARNAL KNOWLEDGE
A38. SHALLOW HAL
A39. UNSTRUNG HEROES

List B
B1. BROADCAST NEWS
*B2. YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN
B3. THE STING
B4. ON THE WATERFRONT
B5. BRAZIL
*B6. GREMLINS
B7. PRIZZI'S HONOR
B8. WHATEVER HAPPENED TO BABY JANE
B9. THE RUNNING MAN
B10. DELIVERANCE
B11. DANGEROUS LIAISONS
B12. BONNIE AND CLYDE
*B13. CARLITO'S WAY
*B14. MIDNIGHT COWBOY
*B15. ANNIE
B16. MICHAEL CLAYTON
B17. TREMORS
B18. CHEECH & CHONG'S UP IN SMOKE
*B19. SAVING PRIVATE RYAN
B20. MATEWAN
B21. RESERVOIR DOGS
*B22. JOHNNY BELINDA
*B23. THE TAKING OF PELHAM ONE TWO THREE
B24. VICTOR/VICTORIA
B25. CAPE FEAR
B26. BOB & CAROL & TED & ALICE
B27. BREAKING AWAY
B28. 2010: ODYSSEY TWO
B29. BEST IN SHOW
*B30. PLANET OF THE APES
B31. MISERY
*B32. MURDER BY DEATH
B33. MEET THE PARENTS
B34. ANNIE HALL
B35. THE JERK
*B36. THE NAKED GUN: FROM THE FILES OF POLICE SQUAD
B37. A CHRISTMAS STORY
B38. 1776
B39. FORREST GUMP
*B40. KELLY'S HEROES
B41. PAPER MOON
B42. OUR TOWN
B43. VOLUNTEERS
B44. ZODIAC
B45. THE PRODUCERS
B46. A FUNNY THING HAPPENED ON THE WAY TO THE FORUM
B47. SINGIN' IN THE RAIN
B48. EIGHT MEN OUT
B49. ALFIE
*B50. THE BAND WAGON

If Nancy Walker is here for The Mary Tyler Moore Show, then Valerie Harper would be in one of the movies in List A, no? In any case, somebody on List A must also have been a regular on MTM.

[franktangredi]

Here's the refinement: the actors from the B list play the parents of one or more of the characters played by the actors on the A list.

Oh, and I can't believe there's still a question mark for TREMORS. That's obviously the right answer.

In that case: Maurice Evans from Planet of the Apes played Samantha's father in Bewitched.

And Mary's mother on The Mary Tyler Moore Show was played by Nanette Fabray of The Band Wagon.

If I remember correctly, John Randolph from Prizzi's Honor played Bob Newhart's father on The Bob Newhart Show.

[franktangredi]

Here's the refinement: the actors from the B list play the parents of one or more of the characters played by the actors on the A list.

Oh, and I can't believe there's still a question mark for TREMORS. That's obviously the right answer.

In that case: Maurice Evans from Planet of the Apes played Samantha's father in Bewitched.

And Mary's mother on The Mary Tyler Moore Show was played by Nanette Fabray of The Band Wagon.

Victor Buono of What Ever Happened to Baby Jane played Christopher Lloyd's dad on Taxi. And Jack Gilford of Forum played Judd Hirsch's father.

(Expanding our search beyond series regulars makes this interesting. It also means we aren't limited, say, to Nancy Walker and Peter Falk in Murder by Death. Did Eileen Brennan, for example, ever guest star as somebody's mother?)

[franktangredi]

Here's the refinement: the actors from the B list play the parents of one or more of the characters played by the actors on the A list.

Oh, and I can't believe there's still a question mark for TREMORS. That's obviously the right answer.

In that case: Maurice Evans from Planet of the Apes played Samantha's father in Bewitched.

And Mary's mother on The Mary Tyler Moore Show was played by Nanette Fabray of The Band Wagon.

If I remember correctly, John Randolph from Prizzi's Honor played Bob Newhart's father on The Bob Newhart Show.

Ooh! And I just remembered that Martha Scott of Our Town played Bob's mother!

[franktangredi]

Victor Buono of What Ever Happened to Baby Jane played Christopher Lloyd's dad on Taxi. And Jack Gilford of Forum played Judd Hirsch's father.

Shoot! I just noticed that Christopher Lloyd isn't represented on the A list, but on the B list. That means the Buono/Lloyd pairing doesn't work.

[NellyLunatic1980]

I think we'll have to re-introduce the Debra Messing/Megan Mullally pairing because Debbie Reynolds ("Singin' in the Rain") played Grace's mother on "Will & Grace".

It's too bad that "The Birds" is in List A because Suzanne Pleshette played Karen's mother.

[franktangredi]

I'M WORKING ON A NEW CONSOLIDATION WITH AN EASY-TO-USE-FORMAT

[mellytu74]

Some ideas. I think.

A1. THE HAPPENING -- I would bet this is here for Spencer Breslin, who was Dan Ackroyd's son in Soul Man and was in a couple other TV shows, too. OR Alan Ruck (on Spin City, maybe).

A18. THE WEDDING DATE -- Debra Messing's mother in Will and Grace was Debbie Reynolds (B47. SINGIN' IN THE RAIN). Also Blythe Danner (B38. 1776) played Eric McCormick's mother and Sydney Pollock (B16. MICHAEL CLAYTON) played his father but I'm not familiar enough with McCormick's movies to know if he is here.

A35. DESPERATELY SEEKING SUSAN -- How about Laurie Metcalf, who played Roseanna Arquette's sister in law? She was on Roseanne and Estelle Parsons (B12. BONNIE AND CLYDE) was the mother of Laurie Metcalf and Roseanne Barr. I don't see anything for Roseanne Barr, though.

Clarifying to make my Roseannes/Roseannas more distinct.

[franktangredi]

Some ideas. I think.

A1. THE HAPPENING -- I would bet this is here for Spencer Breslin, who was Dan Ackroyd's son in Soul Man and was in a couple other TV shows, too. OR Alan Ruck (on Spin City, maybe).

A18. THE WEDDING DATE -- Debra Messing's mother in Will and Grace was Debbie Reynolds (B47. SINGIN' IN THE RAIN). Also Blythe Danner (B38. 1776) played Eric McCormick's mother and Sydney Pollock (B16. MICHAEL CLAYTON) played his father but I'm not familiar enough with McCormick's movies to know if he is here.

A35. DESPERATELY SEEKING SUSAN -- How about Laurie Metcalf, who played Roseanne Arquette's sister in law? She was on Roseanne and Estelle Parsons (B12. BONNIE AND CLYDE) was their mother. I don't see anything for Roseanne, though.

Darren McGavin and Colleen Dewhurst were Murphy Brown's parents.

If we can include grandparents, then Shelley Winters from Alfie can also go with Rosanne

[mellytu74]

I think we'll have to re-introduce the Debra Messing/Megan Mullally pairing because Debbie Reynolds ("Singin' in the Rain") played Grace's mother on "Will & Grace".

It's too bad that "The Birds" is in List A because Suzanne Pleshette played Karen's mother.

Could The Birds be here for Veronica Cartwright? Didn't she play Jack's mother?

[franktangredi]

NEW CONSOLIDATION (or find my mistake, because I can't!)

This currently has both Ice Age and Finding Nemo used twice. One of them must be wrong. And I currently have 20 tv shows with two unmatched A-list movies, so something is wrong.

I have a feeling ER doesn’t belong here. And can we somehow hook up The Happening with What's Up Doc?

ER
Anthony Edwards (A26. Revenge Of The Nerds) and Goran Visnjic (A24. Ice Age)
Parents:

EVERYBODY LOVES RAYMOND
Ray Romano (A24. Ice Age) and Brad Garrett (A36. Finding Nemo)
Parents: Peter Boyle (B2. Young Frankenstein); Doris Roberts (B23. The Taking Of Pelham One Two Three)

TAXI
Judd Hirsch (A4. Ordinary People) and Danny DeVito (A16. Ruthless People)
Parents: Jack Gilford (B46. A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Forum)

BEWITCHED
Elizabeth Montgomery (A28. The Court Martial Of Billy Mitchell) and Dick York (A21. Inherit The Wind)
Parents: Agnes Moorehead (B22. Johnny Belinda); Maurice Evans (B30. Planet Of The Apes)

SEINFELD
Michael Richards (A39. Unstrung Heroes) and Jason Alexander (A38. Shallow Hal)
Parents: Jerry Stiller (B23 The Taking Of Pelham One Two Three)

HOME IMPROVEMENT
Tim Allen (A9. Galaxy Quest) and Jonathan Taylor Thomas (A33. Tom and Huck)
Parents: M. Emmet Walsh (B35. The Jerk) and Polly Holliday (B6. Gremlins)

LOST
Naveen Andrews (A15. The English Patient) and Dominic Monaghan (A32. The Lord Of The Rings: The Fellowship Of The Ring)
Parents:

THE BOB NEWHART SHOW
Bob Newhart (A23. Catch-22) and Suzanne Pleshette (A7. The Birds)
Parents: John Randolph (B7. Prizzi's Honor); Martha Scott (B42. Our Town)

MAD ABOUT YOU
Paul Reiser (A6. Diner) and Helen Hunt (A11. As Good As It Gets)
Parents: Carroll O’Connor (B40. Kelly's Heroes); Carol Burnett (B15. Annie)

FRASIER
David Hyde Pierce (A13. Nixon) and Jane Leeves (A8. James And The Giant Peach)
Parents: John Mahoney (B48. Eight Men Out)

CHEERS
Shelley Long (A25. The Brady Bunch Movie) and Woody Harrelson (A14. The People Vs Larry Flynt)
Parents:

THREE’S COMPANY
John Ritter (A19. Sling Blade) and Don Knotts (A30. It's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World)
Parents:

DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES
Teri Hatcher (A12. Tomorrow Never Dies) and Kyle MacLachlan (A27. Blue Velvet)
Parents:

WILL & GRACE
Debra Messing (A18. The Wedding Date) and Megan Mullally (A2. Stealing Harvard)
Parents: Debbie Reynolds (B47. Singin' In The Rain)

THE SOPRANOS
James Gandolfini (A3. The Man Who Wasn't There) and Lorraine Bracco (A34. Goodfellas)
Parents: Joseph Siravo (B13. Carlito's Way) and Nancy Marchand (B36. The Naked Gun: From The Files Of Police Squad)

FRIENDS
Courteney Cox (A17. Scream) and David Schwimmer (A29. Six Days, Seven Nights)
Parents:

ROSEANNE
John Goodman (A22. The Big Lebowski) and Laurie Metcalf (A35. Desperately Seeking Susan)
Parents: Estelle Parsons (B12. Bonnie And Clyde)

THE MARY TYLER MOORE SHOW"
Mary Tyler Moore (A4. Ordinary People) and Edward Asner (A31. JFK)
Parents: Nanette Fabray (B50. The Band Wagon)

MALCOLM IN THE MIDDLE
Frankie Muniz (A5. My Dog Skip) and Erik Per Sullivan (A36. Finding Nemo)
Parents: Bryan Cranston (B19. Saving Private Ryan)

MURPHY BROWN
Candice Bergen (A37. Carnal Knowledge) and Lily Tomlin (A20. Nashville)
Parents: Colleen Dewhurst (B34. Annie Hall) and Darren McGavin (B37. A Christmas Story)

List A
A1. The Happening
*A2. Stealing Harvard
*A3. The Man Who Wasn't There
*A4. Ordinary People
*A5. My Dog Skip
*A6. Diner
*A7. The Birds
*A8. James And The Giant Peach
*A9. Galaxy Quest
A10. What's Up, Doc?
*A11. As Good As It Gets
*A12. Tomorrow Never Dies
*A13. Nixon
*A14. The People Vs Larry Flynt
*A15. The English Patient
*A16. Ruthless People
*A17. Scream
*A18. The Wedding Date
*A19. Sling Blade
*A20. Nashville
*A21. Inherit The Wind
*A22. The Big Lebowski
*A23. Catch-22
**A24. Ice Age
*A25. The Brady Bunch Movie
*A26. Revenge Of The Nerds
*A27. Blue Velvet
*A28. The Court Martial Of Billy Mitchell
*A29. Six Days, Seven Nights
*A30. It's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World
*A31. JFK
*A32. The Lord Of The Rings: The Fellowship Of The Ring
*A33. Tom And Huck
*A34. Goodfellas
*A35. Desperately Seeking Susan
**A36. Finding Nemo
*A37. Carnal Knowledge
*A38. Shallow Hal
*A39. Unstrung Heroes

List B
B1. Broadcast News
*B2. Young Frankenstein
B3. The Sting
B4. On The Waterfront
B5. Brazil
*B6. Gremlins
*B7. Prizzi's Honor
B8. Whatever Happened To Baby Jane
B9. The Running Man
B10. Deliverance
B11. Dangerous Liaisons
*B12. Bonnie And Clyde
*B13. Carlito's Way
B14. Midnight Cowboy
*B15. Annie
B16. Michael Clayton
B17. Tremors
B18. Cheech & Chong's Up In Smoke
*B19. Saving Private Ryan
B20. Matewan
B21. Reservoir Dogs
*B22. Johnny Belinda
**B23. The Taking Of Pelham One Two Three
B24. Victor/Victoria
B25. Cape Fear
B26. Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice
B27. Breaking Away
B28. 2010: Odyssey Two
B29. Best In Show
*B30. Planet Of The Apes
B31. Misery
B32. Murder By Death
B33. Meet The Parents
*B34. Annie Hall
*B35. The Jerk
*B36. The Naked Gun: From The Files Of Police Squad
*B37. A Christmas Story
B38. 1776
B39. Forrest Gump
*B40. Kelly's Heroes
B41. Paper Moon
*B42. Our Town
B43. Volunteers
B44. Zodiac
B45. The Producers
*B46. A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Forum
*B47. Singin' In The Rain
*B48. Eight Men Out
B49. Alfie
*B50. The Band Wagon

[franktangredi]

NEW CONSOLIDATION (or find my mistake, because I can't!)

This currently has both Ice Age and Finding Nemo used twice. One of them must be wrong. And I currently have 20 tv shows with two unmatched A-list movies, so something is wrong.

I have a feeling ER doesn’t belong here. And can we somehow hook up The Happening with What's Up Doc?

ER
Anthony Edwards (A26. Revenge Of The Nerds) and Goran Visnjic (A24. Ice Age)
Parents:

EVERYBODY LOVES RAYMOND
Ray Romano (A24. Ice Age) and Brad Garrett (A36. Finding Nemo)
Parents: Peter Boyle (B2. Young Frankenstein); Doris Roberts (B23. The Taking Of Pelham One Two Three)

TAXI
Judd Hirsch (A4. Ordinary People) and Danny DeVito (A16. Ruthless People)
Parents: Jack Gilford (B46. A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Forum)

BEWITCHED
Elizabeth Montgomery (A28. The Court Martial Of Billy Mitchell) and Dick York (A21. Inherit The Wind)
Parents: Agnes Moorehead (B22. Johnny Belinda); Maurice Evans (B30. Planet Of The Apes)

SEINFELD
Michael Richards (A39. Unstrung Heroes) and Jason Alexander (A38. Shallow Hal)
Parents: Jerry Stiller (B23 The Taking Of Pelham One Two Three)

HOME IMPROVEMENT
Tim Allen (A9. Galaxy Quest) and Jonathan Taylor Thomas (A33. Tom and Huck)
Parents: M. Emmet Walsh (B35. The Jerk) and Polly Holliday (B6. Gremlins)

LOST
Naveen Andrews (A15. The English Patient) and Dominic Monaghan (A32. The Lord Of The Rings: The Fellowship Of The Ring)
Parents:

THE BOB NEWHART SHOW
Bob Newhart (A23. Catch-22) and Suzanne Pleshette (A7. The Birds)
Parents: John Randolph (B7. Prizzi's Honor); Martha Scott (B42. Our Town)

MAD ABOUT YOU
Paul Reiser (A6. Diner) and Helen Hunt (A11. As Good As It Gets)
Parents: Carroll O’Connor (B40. Kelly's Heroes); Carol Burnett (B15. Annie)

FRASIER
David Hyde Pierce (A13. Nixon) and Jane Leeves (A8. James And The Giant Peach)
Parents: John Mahoney (B48. Eight Men Out)

CHEERS
Shelley Long (A25. The Brady Bunch Movie) and Woody Harrelson (A14. The People Vs Larry Flynt)
Parents:

THREE’S COMPANY
John Ritter (A19. Sling Blade) and Don Knotts (A30. It's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World)
Parents:

DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES
Teri Hatcher (A12. Tomorrow Never Dies) and Kyle MacLachlan (A27. Blue Velvet)
Parents:

WILL & GRACE
Debra Messing (A18. The Wedding Date) and Megan Mullally (A2. Stealing Harvard)
Parents: Debbie Reynolds (B47. Singin' In The Rain)

THE SOPRANOS
James Gandolfini (A3. The Man Who Wasn't There) and Lorraine Bracco (A34. Goodfellas)
Parents: Joseph Siravo (B13. Carlito's Way) and Nancy Marchand (B36. The Naked Gun: From The Files Of Police Squad)

FRIENDS
Courteney Cox (A17. Scream) and David Schwimmer (A29. Six Days, Seven Nights)
Parents:

ROSEANNE
John Goodman (A22. The Big Lebowski) and Laurie Metcalf (A35. Desperately Seeking Susan)
Parents: Estelle Parsons (B12. Bonnie And Clyde)

THE MARY TYLER MOORE SHOW"
Mary Tyler Moore (A4. Ordinary People) and Edward Asner (A31. JFK)
Parents: Nanette Fabray (B50. The Band Wagon)

MALCOLM IN THE MIDDLE
Frankie Muniz (A5. My Dog Skip) and Erik Per Sullivan (A36. Finding Nemo)
Parents: Bryan Cranston (B19. Saving Private Ryan)

MURPHY BROWN
Candice Bergen (A37. Carnal Knowledge) and Lily Tomlin (A20. Nashville)
Parents: Colleen Dewhurst (B34. Annie Hall) and Darren McGavin (B37. A Christmas Story)

List A
A1. The Happening
*A2. Stealing Harvard
*A3. The Man Who Wasn't There
*A4. Ordinary People
*A5. My Dog Skip
*A6. Diner
*A7. The Birds
*A8. James And The Giant Peach
*A9. Galaxy Quest
A10. What's Up, Doc?
*A11. As Good As It Gets
*A12. Tomorrow Never Dies
*A13. Nixon
*A14. The People Vs Larry Flynt
*A15. The English Patient
*A16. Ruthless People
*A17. Scream
*A18. The Wedding Date
*A19. Sling Blade
*A20. Nashville
*A21. Inherit The Wind
*A22. The Big Lebowski
*A23. Catch-22
**A24. Ice Age
*A25. The Brady Bunch Movie
*A26. Revenge Of The Nerds
*A27. Blue Velvet
*A28. The Court Martial Of Billy Mitchell
*A29. Six Days, Seven Nights
*A30. It's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World
*A31. JFK
*A32. The Lord Of The Rings: The Fellowship Of The Ring
*A33. Tom And Huck
*A34. Goodfellas
*A35. Desperately Seeking Susan
**A36. Finding Nemo
*A37. Carnal Knowledge
*A38. Shallow Hal
*A39. Unstrung Heroes

List B
B1. Broadcast News
*B2. Young Frankenstein
B3. The Sting
B4. On The Waterfront
B5. Brazil
*B6. Gremlins
*B7. Prizzi's Honor
B8. Whatever Happened To Baby Jane
B9. The Running Man
B10. Deliverance
B11. Dangerous Liaisons
*B12. Bonnie And Clyde
*B13. Carlito's Way
B14. Midnight Cowboy
*B15. Annie
B16. Michael Clayton
B17. Tremors
B18. Cheech & Chong's Up In Smoke
*B19. Saving Private Ryan
B20. Matewan
B21. Reservoir Dogs
*B22. Johnny Belinda
**B23. The Taking Of Pelham One Two Three
B24. Victor/Victoria
B25. Cape Fear
B26. Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice
B27. Breaking Away
B28. 2010: Odyssey Two
B29. Best In Show
*B30. Planet Of The Apes
B31. Misery
B32. Murder By Death
B33. Meet The Parents
*B34. Annie Hall
*B35. The Jerk
*B36. The Naked Gun: From The Files Of Police Squad
*B37. A Christmas Story
B38. 1776
B39. Forrest Gump
*B40. Kelly's Heroes
B41. Paper Moon
*B42. Our Town
B43. Volunteers
B44. Zodiac
B45. The Producers
*B46. A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Forum
*B47. Singin' In The Rain
*B48. Eight Men Out
B49. Alfie
*B50. The Band Wagon

Well, I just found one other mistake. Ordinary People is also used twice!

[mellytu74]

FRIENDS
Courteney Cox (A17. Scream) and David Schwimmer (A29. Six Days, Seven Nights)
Parents:

Elliott Gould (B26. Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice) was their father, wasn't he?

[NellyLunatic1980]

FRIENDS
Courteney Cox (A17. Scream) and David Schwimmer (A29. Six Days, Seven Nights)
Parents:

Elliott Gould (B26. Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice) was their father, wasn't he?

Yes.

Their mother was played by Christina Pickles, but none of her films is listed in List B.

[smilergrogan]

Good that people are finally having some fun with this.

The Tangredi is now a tad overrefined. Coarsen it a little to allow more options.

You have identified all 20 TV shows correctly. I obviously didn't look at the cast list for Ice Age very closely (and I don't normally watch ER). I may have tried a little too hard to get Melly's line into the puzzle!

Put the clue back up for B19. I really like that movie. The reason the soldier is crying is at the heart of the film.

[franktangredi]

Good that people are finally having some fun with this.

The Tangredi is now a tad overrefined. Coarsen it a little to allow more options.

You have identified all 20 TV shows correctly. I obviously didn't look at the cast list for Ice Age very closely (and I don't normally watch ER). I may have tried a little too hard to get Melly's line into the puzzle!

Put the clue back up for B19. I really like that movie. The reason the soldier is crying is at the heart of the film.

I assume by "coarsening it up," you mean that the actors on the B list don't necessarily have to have played the parents of the actors from the A list, just as long as they played the parents of a regular on the show. That would let Victor Buono and Nancy Walker and Shelley Winters in.

[franktangredi]

Good that people are finally having some fun with this.

The Tangredi is now a tad overrefined. Coarsen it a little to allow more options.

You have identified all 20 TV shows correctly. I obviously didn't look at the cast list for Ice Age very closely (and I don't normally watch ER). I may have tried a little too hard to get Melly's line into the puzzle!

Put the clue back up for B19. I really like that movie. The reason the soldier is crying is at the heart of the film.

I assume by "coarsening it up," you mean that the actors on the B list don't necessarily have to have played the parents of the actors from the A list, just as long as they played the parents of a regular on the show. That would let Victor Buono and Nancy Walker and Shelley Winters in.

Not just Nancy Walker, but also Harold Gould of The Sting, who played Rhoda's father.

[NellyLunatic1980]

Anthony Edwards' father was played by John Cullum ("1776").

[smilergrogan]

I assume by "coarsening it up," you mean that the actors on the B list don't necessarily have to have played the parents of the actors from the A list, just as long as they played the parents of a regular on the show. That would let Victor Buono and Nancy Walker and Shelley Winters in.

Even slightly coarser than that. (But grandparents still don't count.)

[mellytu74]

I may have tried a little too hard to get Melly's line into the puzzle!

I am thinking, then, that we have a movie with the wrong Deschannel sister.

Because, while Zoe Deschannel is in The Happening, Ryan O'Neal (B41. Paper Moon) plays the father of "Bones" on Bones. But that's Emily Deschannel, not Zoe.

I appreciate the effort, smiler.

Also, Paul Dooley was Sherry Stringfield's dad on ER.

[franktangredi]

I assume by "coarsening it up," you mean that the actors on the B list don't necessarily have to have played the parents of the actors from the A list, just as long as they played the parents of a regular on the show. That would let Victor Buono and Nancy Walker and Shelley Winters in.

Even slightly coarser than that. (But grandparents still don't count.)

Maybe not, but Shelley Winters was not just Rosanne's grandmother, she was Estelle Parsons's mother, so she still counts.

[franktangredi]

I may have tried a little too hard to get Melly's line into the puzzle!

I am thinking, then, that we have a movie with the wrong Deschannel sister.

Because, while Zoe Deschannel is in The Happening, Ryan O'Neal (B41. Paper Moon) plays the father of "Bones" on Bones. But that's Emily Deschannel, not Zoe.

I appreciate the effort, smiler.

Also, Paul Dooley was Sherry Stringfield's dad on ER.

And Ned Beatty was John Goodman's dad on Rosanne.