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by themanintheseersuckersuit » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:47 am
like it is
The Capitol Power Plant, a 99-year-old facility that heats and cools the hallowed halls of Congress, still burns coal and accounts for one-third of the legislative branch's greenhouse gas emissions. For a decade, lawmakers have attempted to clean it up.
But Congress is running out of options to make the plant fully green. On Friday the House announced that it was abandoning its goal to be carbon neutral and would no longer buy offsets to make sure it was removing as much carbon dioxide from the atmosphere as it releases. Those offsets were key to zeroing out the remaining emissions at the power plant that could not be reduced by other means.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03 ... rgy-hopes/Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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by themanintheseersuckersuit » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:36 am
According to a February 17 filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, investment funds managed by Soros own more than $112 million worth of stock in Arch Coal and CONSOL Energy — the third and fifth largest coal companies in the U.S. Other SEC filings indicate that Soros began investing in coal during 2008 — hardly an auspicious time for such investment. Not only did the stock values of coal companies fall sharply, but the future of coal use in the U.S. became less certain. Since 2006, climate activists have pressured state regulators to deny permits for 83 coal-fired power plants.
http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/ ... oros_coal/Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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by Jeemie » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:43 am
themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:According to a February 17 filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, investment funds managed by Soros own more than $112 million worth of stock in Arch Coal and CONSOL Energy — the third and fifth largest coal companies in the U.S. Other SEC filings indicate that Soros began investing in coal during 2008 — hardly an auspicious time for such investment. Not only did the stock values of coal companies fall sharply, but the future of coal use in the U.S. became less certain. Since 2006, climate activists have pressured state regulators to deny permits for 83 coal-fired power plants.
http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/ ... oros_coal/
On the contrary- Soros understands that soon the use of coal will go higher, not lower...contrary to what environmentalists would like to think.
And do not think that just Soros knows it.
Obama himself is a big proponent of coal-to-liquids, which is about as green and energy efficient as I am a fan of the Baltimore Ravens. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that Illinois has much of the nation's coal reserves.
More "change we need".
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by etaoin22 » Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:35 am
The United States will believe a crisis exists when the President has to get in and out of the White House by rowboat.
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by ne1410s » Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:50 am
etaoin
The United States will believe a crisis exists when the President has to get in and out of the White House by rowboat.
Sad but very true.
"When you argue with a fool, there are two fools in the argument."
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by themanintheseersuckersuit » Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:19 pm
etaoin22 wrote:The United States will believe a crisis exists when the President has to get in and out of the White House by rowboat.
or when Canada says Just Say No to the Oilsands
Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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by etaoin22 » Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:45 pm
I suppose it is arguable that the run-up in the Canadian dollar to at one point $1.10 American only killed the export industries which would have died now in the downturn, but the Oilsands are what is left. To the U.S., to China, whatever. The United States has lots of good friends in the Middle East and in South America who would be glad to make up the difference. Or perhaps the next war will be in Venezuela.
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by Jeemie » Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:06 pm
Amazing what happens when governments interfere
too much with markets.
Law of Unintended Consequences ALWAYS follows.
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by Thousandaire » Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:19 pm
Jeemie wrote:
Amazing what happens when governments interfere
too much with markets.
Law of Unintended Consequences ALWAYS follows.
Not to mention when they create such markets based on something that has no intrinsic value.
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by themanintheseersuckersuit » Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:16 am
Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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by silvercamaro » Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:37 am
This bothers me less than the 500-600 people he took with him to London. (Disclaimer: This number includes up to 200 Secret Service agents. As a taxpayer, I don't mind paying for security for the President. I do mind providing working vacations for speech writers, assistants to assistants, and many others who could have provided their advice and services via e-mail and telephone.)
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by Bob Juch » Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:43 am
Londoners are going to wonder what the hell chicken and hot sauce have to do with Hyde Park.
I know it's a district of Chicago.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.
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by ulysses5019 » Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:52 am
Could we have lb run down and pick up pi for us? It's almost lunch.
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by silverscreenselect » Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:57 am
etaoin22 wrote:The United States will believe a crisis exists when the President has to get in and out of the White House by rowboat.
That will never happen. Everyone knows he can walk on water.
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by NellyLunatic1980 » Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:04 am
Dammit. SSS stole my joke.
I need to stop being so engaged in "The Price Is Right".
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by BigDrawMan » Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:38 am
since 2001, there have been zero articles in scientific journals denying global warming or that humans are causing the world to warm
around 50% of articles on the subject in the mass media report there are doubts on the subject.
i would like to see a rise of 4 degrees in the mid atlantic region before any action is taken
I dont torture mallards all the time, but when I do, I prefer waterboarding.
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by themanintheseersuckersuit » Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:56 am
BigDrawMan wrote:since 2001, there have been zero articles in scientific journals denying global warming or that humans are causing the world to warm
around 50% of articles on the subject in the mass media report there are doubts on the subject.
i would like to see a rise of 4 degrees in the mid atlantic region before any action is taken
C or F?
Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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by themanintheseersuckersuit » Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:58 am
BigDrawMan wrote:since 2001, there have been zero articles in scientific journals denying global warming or that humans are causing the world to warm
around 50% of articles on the subject in the mass media report there are doubts on the subject.
i would like to see a rise of 4 degrees in the mid atlantic region before any action is taken
But has the globe warmed since 2001?
Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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by ulysses5019 » Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:53 am
themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:BigDrawMan wrote:since 2001, there have been zero articles in scientific journals denying global warming or that humans are causing the world to warm
around 50% of articles on the subject in the mass media report there are doubts on the subject.
i would like to see a rise of 4 degrees in the mid atlantic region before any action is taken
But has the globe warmed since 2001?
Mine has. When I put it next to the heater.
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by themanintheseersuckersuit » Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:48 am
The Chef was on tv today explaining that he went to the DC area to visit his significant others family, not specifically to make pizza at the White House.
Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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by themanintheseersuckersuit » Wed May 13, 2009 7:10 am
“It’s great to have a nice home. It’s great to have nice homes! It’s great to have a nice home that just escaped the fire in Santa Barbara,” she told the students. “It’s great to have a private jet. Anyone that tells you that having your own private jet isn’t great is lying to you.”
Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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by MarleysGh0st » Wed May 13, 2009 8:09 am
themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:“It’s great to have a nice home. It’s great to have nice homes! It’s great to have a nice home that just escaped the fire in Santa Barbara,” she told the students. “It’s great to have a private jet. Anyone that tells you that having your own private jet isn’t great is lying to you.”
Who are you quoting here, tmitsss? The same exec who was being discussed a month ago?
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by silvercamaro » Wed May 13, 2009 8:26 am
MarleysGh0st wrote:themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:“It’s great to have a nice home. It’s great to have nice homes! It’s great to have a nice home that just escaped the fire in Santa Barbara,” she told the students. “It’s great to have a private jet. Anyone that tells you that having your own private jet isn’t great is lying to you.”
Who are you quoting here, tmitsss? The same exec who was being discussed a month ago?
I recognize the quote. This is from the lovely Oprah Winfrey, during her commencement address at Duke University.
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by themanintheseersuckersuit » Wed May 13, 2009 8:27 am
MarleysGh0st wrote:themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:“It’s great to have a nice home. It’s great to have nice homes! It’s great to have a nice home that just escaped the fire in Santa Barbara,” she told the students. “It’s great to have a private jet. Anyone that tells you that having your own private jet isn’t great is lying to you.”
Who are you quoting here, tmitsss? The same exec who was being discussed a month ago?
That's Ms. Winfrey
Apparently Oprah’s ride is a $42 million custom-build Global Express XRS built by Bombardier Aerospace
Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
