bob jindal speech

[BigDrawMan]

did karl rove write that?

It was odd for a governor to give the opposition view.
His opening of "aint it great that a black guy is potus" made me cringe.

His refernences to "how we do things in louisiana" does not inspire confidence in how he would govern.Louisiana is 48th in everything except corruption,murder,college football and music.Maybe bob wants to make us into argentina.

"government is not the answer" is not a good theme when there are no answers.I do believe he will prove that if elected president.Not a sound platform anymore.

He gave no plans for recovery.No actions he endorses.
just a tired and banal list of what wont work.

thanks for that bob

[SportsFan68]

did karl rove write that?


. . .

Probably.

[NellyLunatic1980]

The only thing stiffer than Gov. Jindal last night was Larry Craig watching Gov. Jindal.

He came off as a condescending preschool teacher who was trying to channel some weird combination of Mr. Rogers, Blanche Dubois, and the intern from "30 Rock".

He would've been a lot more believeable if he weren't reading GOP talking points or rehashing the same 30-year-old GOP economic "ideas" that got this country into a recession in the first place.

The Gov. Jindal that I saw last night was not the same Gov. Jindal that I am used to seeing.

[BigDrawMan]

The only thing stiffer than Gov. Jindal last night was Larry Craig watching Gov. Jindal.

He came off as a condescending preschool teacher who was trying to channel some weird combination of Mr. Rogers, Blanche Dubois, and the intern from "30 Rock".

He would've been a lot more believeable if he weren't reading GOP talking points or rehashing the same 30-year-old GOP economic "ideas" that got this country into a recession in the first place.

The Gov. Jindal that I saw last night was not the same Gov. Jindal that I am used to seeing.

he was very Kenneth the Intern

larry craig was weirding me out

i dont want to know what he was thinking

[flockofseagulls104]

oh god!

[ToLiveIsToFly]

The only thing stiffer than Gov. Jindal last night was Larry Craig watching Gov. Jindal.

He came off as a condescending preschool teacher who was trying to channel some weird combination of Mr. Rogers, Blanche Dubois, and the intern from "30 Rock".

He would've been a lot more believeable if he weren't reading GOP talking points or rehashing the same 30-year-old GOP economic "ideas" that got this country into a recession in the first place.

The Gov. Jindal that I saw last night was not the same Gov. Jindal that I am used to seeing.

he was very Kenneth the Intern

larry craig was weirding me out

i dont want to know what he was thinking

Kenneth is a page.

[silverscreenselect]

I'm sure the people of Louisiana will think highly of the Governor's principles when their unemployment benefits run out.

[TheCalvinator24]

Sounds unnatural.

The repeated gesture with the right hand is ANNOYING.

[NellyLunatic1980]

The only thing stiffer than Gov. Jindal last night was Larry Craig watching Gov. Jindal.

He came off as a condescending preschool teacher who was trying to channel some weird combination of Mr. Rogers, Blanche Dubois, and the intern from "30 Rock".

He would've been a lot more believeable if he weren't reading GOP talking points or rehashing the same 30-year-old GOP economic "ideas" that got this country into a recession in the first place.

The Gov. Jindal that I saw last night was not the same Gov. Jindal that I am used to seeing.

he was very Kenneth the Intern

larry craig was weirding me out

i dont want to know what he was thinking

Kenneth is a page.

I never knew that there was a difference between an intern and a page. I thought the only difference between an intern and a page is that Clinton never got a BJ from a page.

[ne1410s]

Bill Clinton recovered from a turd of a speech to become Prez. Maybe Jindal can also.

[Jeemie]

I'm sure the people of Louisiana will think highly of the Governor's principles when their unemployment benefits run out.

Jindal is rejecting exactly THREE PERCENT of the stimulus money headed to his state.

Not exactly the ringing rejection of the stimulus that he gave last night.

That said- last night Jindal suffered from the same issues that plagued Palin- his "handlers", whoever they are, interfered too much with his natural style.

Jindal is MUCH better when he's allowed to be himself (as long as he's not performing any exorcisms!)

But greater than all of this is- the GOP has nothing. By squandering their conservative heritage by being anything BUT conservative the last eight years, they have given conservative ideas a bad name.

Obama doesn't even have to be compelling anymore- just needs to keep up with his vague, flowery prose- because his opponents have no coherent strategy whatsoever.

More's the pity, since the strategy for attacking him is obvious.

[gsabc]

Jindal is being tested and groomed for 2012.

The new definition of chutzpah is the Republican party decrying deficit spending and complaining about running up the national debt.

The new definition of stupidity is the Democratic party stuffing pork projects, totalling maybe 5% max of the total price tag, into the stimulus bill and handing the Republican party the ability to make the debate about the minutiae and not the substance. Obama needs to drag Reid and Pelosi into the Oval Office and smack them hard with a 2x4.

[silverscreenselect]

I'm sure the people of Louisiana will think highly of the Governor's principles when their unemployment benefits run out.

Jindal is rejecting exactly THREE PERCENT of the stimulus money headed to his state.

Not exactly the ringing rejection of the stimulus that he gave last night.

No one mentioned during the discussion of the stimulus bill that extending unemployment benefits would require states to change their unemployment tax laws. I'm sure that if the Republicans had actually read the bill (not that Democrats did either), such an obvious avenue of attack would have presented itself and been used before the bill passed.

So Pelosi and company sneak a "gotcha" through and now states like Louisiana which will probably have a lot of unemployed are going to make things tougher on those hapless people just so Jindal and the national Republicans can score some political points and shore up their "conservative" credentials.

Both parties continue on their downward spiral.

[silverscreenselect]

The new definition of stupidity is the Democratic party stuffing pork projects, totalling maybe 5% max of the total price tag, into the stimulus bill and handing the Republican party the ability to make the debate about the minutiae and not the substance. Obama needs to drag Reid and Pelosi into the Oval Office and smack them hard with a 2x4.

Reid, Pelosi, Frank, and company are calling the shots on the stimuls package. Obama is the front man, making the speeches and doing P/R and then changing his tune as opinion polls come in.

[SportsFan68]

This doesn't really fit, but I dint want to put it in its own thread, so I shanghaied this one. I'd been wondering about the Palin-Johnston wedding and found this.

ILLEGITIMACY AND THE GOP – FROM DAN QUAYLE TO SARAH PALIN

By Allan Wall

February 25, 2009
NewsWithViews.com

One of the biggest social problems facing contemporary American society is the skyrocketing illegitimacy rate. More and more babies are being born out of wedlock, and it’s become more socially acceptable.

The overall illegitimacy rate is now approaching 40%. If you break it down racially, it’s about 25% among the white English-speaking majority, approaching 50% among Hispanics, and at a staggering 70% among Blacks.

The social consequences are enormous. Children raised without fathers have many problems. All other things being equal, they display a greater propensity toward crime and sexual promiscuity, which of course exacerbates the problem. Illegitimacy is a major contributor to poverty.

Young men raised without fathers lack a positive masculine role model, and often turn to gangs and crime, looking for the acceptance they didn’t get from a father figure. The jails and morgues await many of them.

Libertarians and believers in limited-government take note – there is a strong relationship between illegitimacy, family breakdown and the growth of the welfare state. The more family breakdown there is, the more demand there is for Big Government. The more demand for Big Government, the farther we drift away from limited constitutional government. And the more vulnerable we are to political demagogues (such as Bush, McCain and Obama among many others) who claim to be able to solve our social problems.

Widespread family breakdown, in other words, is a major factor in making our society less, not more, free.

That’s why, among the white majority, happily-married women tend to vote Republican, while divorcees and single mothers tend to vote for the Democrats. It’s logical. For a single mother, the Government is her Husband.

Do Republicans care about family disintegration? They used to. But there’s not much evidence that today’s Republican elite care much about it.

In a 1992 speech Republican Vice-President Dan Quayle, running for re-election, attributed the violence in the recent LA riots to family values problems.

Quayle criticized the “Murphy Brown” TV program, which had featured a single mother as the heroine of the show. Quayle stated that it “doesn’t help matters when primetime TV has Murphy Brown – a character who supposedly epitomizes today’s intelligent, highly paid, professional woman – mocking the importance of fathers, by bearing a child alone, and calling it just another ‘lifestyle choice’.”


That speech earned Quayle lot of flak from the usual suspects. But Quayle was right, and had guts to say what he did. Even Candice Bergen, the star of “Murphy Brown,” agreed. She said that Quayle’s “speech was a perfectly intelligent speech about fathers not being dispensable and nobody agreed with that more than I did.”

Well, that was way back in 1992. How things have changed!

In 2008, Republican presidential candidate John McCain chose Sarah Palin as his running mate. We were told Palin was a conservative because, well, she was pro-life and could shoot a moose.

Just a few days after Sarah became the candidate, it was announced that her daughter Bristol was pregnant, having been “knocked up” by Levi Johnston, a fellow student in her public school.

In the old days such a thing would have been a scandal. But not in 2008. In fact, the McCain Campaign made heroes of Bristol and Levi.

The whole family, along with Levi, flew down to meet John McCain, and were celebrated on the podium of the Republican national convention.

But here was the GOP, the supposed family values party, celebrating Sarah Palin, a state governor who obviously didn’t have a lot of time to raise her family, and whose oldest daughter was un unwed mother.

Even longtime social conservatives such as Phyllis Schlafly and James Dobson jumped on the bandwagon, in the rush to go ga-ga over Sarah. I guess the bottom line was a GOP victory, right? Except that the Republicans lost anyway, as they generally do when they pander.

Many pro-lifers were quick to defend the Palins. After all, neither Sarah nor Bristol got an abortion, right ? That just shows us how low our standards have sunk. Nowadays, if a woman doesn’t kill her own children, she is automatically considered a good mother!



Besides, we were assured during the campaign that Bristol and Levi were going to get married. But they didn’t and they haven’t. The baby was born in December. Still no wedding. Here it is February of 2009 and Bristol and Levi are still not married.

But not to worry. Grandma Sarah assured Greta van Susteren in an interview that “Bristol is a strong and bold young woman and she is an amazing mom.” Oprah couldn’t have put it better!



Let’s see, Dan Quayle’s speech decrying illegitimacy was in 1992. But by 2008 the Republicans were celebrating out-of-wedlock birth in their national convention. That only took four election cycles !

What social trends do you suppose the GOP will be endorsing by 2024?

© 2009 Allan Wall - All Rights Reserved

[Jeemie]

The new definition of stupidity is the Democratic party stuffing pork projects, totalling maybe 5% max of the total price tag, into the stimulus bill and handing the Republican party the ability to make the debate about the minutiae and not the substance. Obama needs to drag Reid and Pelosi into the Oval Office and smack them hard with a 2x4.

Reid, Pelosi, Frank, and company are calling the shots on the stimuls package. Obama is the front man, making the speeches and doing P/R and then changing his tune as opinion polls come in.

And I'm guessing a lot more than 5% of the total price tag is "pork" as well.

[danielh41]

I didn't watch Obama's speech, nor did I watch Jindal. They were on the TV in the other room though, so I heard little snippets of both even though I wasn't paying attention.

I've always thought that those opposing party responses to Presidential speeches, be they State of the Union or other, were silly, starting back when Jim Wright (who happened to be representing my district at the time) would give responses to Reagan. What little I heard of Jindal wasn't too impressive.

Obama sounded like he was giving another campaign speech, probably because that's all he knows how to do. He's never run a company, a city council, a state, or anything else before taking office. And I didn't believe the part about my taxes not going up during the campaign nor when he said it last night.

[Jeemie]

Funniest part of the night- Chris "Thrill Up My Leg" Matthews audibly saying "Oh God" as Jindal walks to the podium.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/2 ... 69697.html

At least this time Matthews could be excused his idiocy, even though, as my link remarks, it would be at least 15 seconds before we realized what Matthews said was appropriate!

[Estonut]

I thought the only difference between an intern and a page is that Clinton never got a BJ from a page.

Just because he never had to publicly deny it doesn't mean that it never happened. I am sure Bubba got plenty of BJs that you don't know about. Mansluts do that.

[LarryCraig]

The only thing stiffer than Gov. Jindal last night was Larry Craig watching Gov. Jindal.

Please. Jindal's not my type.

[Rexer25]

TMI!!

[SportsFan68]

This was in today's E-mailbag. I got another one about Obama's speech that I may post in that thread.

Jindal Admits Katrina Story Was False
By Zachary Roth - February 27, 2009, 12:39PM
Looks like the game is up.
Remember that story Bobby Jindal told in his big speech Tuesday night -- about how during Katrina, he stood shoulder-to-shoulder with a local sheriff who was battling government red tape to try to rescue stranded victims?

Turns out it wasn't actually, you know, true.

In the last few days, first Daily Kos, and thenTPMmuckraker, raised serious questions about the story, based in part on the fact that no news reports we could find place Jindal in the affected area at the specific time at issue.

Jindal had described being in the office of Sheriff Harry Lee "during Katrina," and hearing him yelling into the phone at a government bureaucrat who was refusing to let him send volunteer boats out to rescue stranded storm victims, because they didn't have the necessary permits. Jindal said he told Lee, "that's ridiculous," prompting Lee to tell the bureaucrat that the rescue effort would go ahead and he or she could arrest both Lee and Jindal.

But now, a Jindal spokeswoman has admitted to Politico that in reality, Jindal overheard Lee talking about the episode to someone else by phone "days later." The spokeswoman said she thought Lee, who died in 2007, was being interviewed about the incident at the time.

This is no minor difference. Jindal's presence in Lee's office during the crisis itself was a key element of the story's intended appeal, putting him at the center of the action during the maelstrom. Just as important, Jindal implied that his support for the sheriff helped ensure the rescue went ahead. But it turns out Jindal wasn't there at the key moment, and played no role in making the rescue happen.

There's a larger point here, though. The central anecdote of the GOP's prime-time response to President Obama's speech, intended to illustrate the threat of excessive government regulation, turns out to have been made up.

Maybe it's time to rethink the premise.

[etaoin22]

I will read the rest of this thread later but for now let me opine that every expression loved by that so-called Republican base at this point, will do greatly to bring about not the Second Coming, but the Third Coming, that of Jeb Bush, as prexy in 2013.

[BigDrawMan]

I will read the rest of this thread later but for now let me opine that every expression loved by that so-called Republican base at this point, will do greatly to bring about not the Second Coming, but the Third Coming, that of Jeb Bush, as prexy in 2013.

i was listenig to an interview with sumguy who was the son of one of the "founders" of the moral majority movement.I think his name was francis schaefer.
anywho, the father ran some kind of evangelical compound in europe(when he wasnt beating his wife), that became a stopover for famous types.George and barbara bush became family friends.
Before the 2000 election, the mother and son were talking about who they were going to vote for

ma:i like Jeb.I am going to vote for him

son:jeb isnt running, its george.

ma:no.that cant be.its jeb

son:no ma, jeb is governor of florida, george is running for president

ma:that cant be

son:why not

ma:barbara always asked me to say extra prayers for george because everything was such a struggle for him
he cant be running for president

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

This was in today's E-mailbag. I got another one about Obama's speech that I may post in that thread.

Jindal Admits Katrina Story Was False
By Zachary Roth - February 27, 2009, 12:39PM
Looks like the game is up.
Remember that story Bobby Jindal told in his big speech Tuesday night -- about how during Katrina, he stood shoulder-to-shoulder with a local sheriff who was battling government red tape to try to rescue stranded victims?

Turns out it wasn't actually, you know, true.

In the last few days, first Daily Kos, and thenTPMmuckraker, raised serious questions about the story, based in part on the fact that no news reports we could find place Jindal in the affected area at the specific time at issue.

Jindal had described being in the office of Sheriff Harry Lee "during Katrina," and hearing him yelling into the phone at a government bureaucrat who was refusing to let him send volunteer boats out to rescue stranded storm victims, because they didn't have the necessary permits. Jindal said he told Lee, "that's ridiculous," prompting Lee to tell the bureaucrat that the rescue effort would go ahead and he or she could arrest both Lee and Jindal.

But now, a Jindal spokeswoman has admitted to Politico that in reality, Jindal overheard Lee talking about the episode to someone else by phone "days later." The spokeswoman said she thought Lee, who died in 2007, was being interviewed about the incident at the time.

This is no minor difference. Jindal's presence in Lee's office during the crisis itself was a key element of the story's intended appeal, putting him at the center of the action during the maelstrom. Just as important, Jindal implied that his support for the sheriff helped ensure the rescue went ahead. But it turns out Jindal wasn't there at the key moment, and played no role in making the rescue happen.

There's a larger point here, though. The central anecdote of the GOP's prime-time response to President Obama's speech, intended to illustrate the threat of excessive government regulation, turns out to have been made up.

Maybe it's time to rethink the premise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wO5S5LG ... rina-post/