Did I miss the thread re VP's "# to the website?"

[Flybrick]

bigdraw:

you make up an assertion to make a point about something that dint happen relating to an event that few saw, on a game show messgage board, on which you think that the criticisms of quite possibly the most incompetent president in our history,during a worldwide global financial pandemic no less, was too harsh.

Sorry, your logic doesn't follow. If it "dint happen" then how could it be "an event that few saw" regardless of what venue I posted the gaffe on?


bigdraw:

I too became annoyed with the constant nitpicking over his smalll gaffes like the iraq war,2 recessions,failure to capture bin laden after ignoring the warnings of the 9/11 attack

I assume that following a train of thought is not a strong point then?

my:

Why did we have so many threads and so much glee when the previous Administration made minor goofs like this - ones that truly didn't affect anyone or anything?

Against policy or major decisions? Absolutely, our right and duty as citizens to discuss and dissent, if need be.

did agree that disagreement with policies was a good thing if one did disagree. I disagree with your assertions for Bush's culpability for all of your list, but I don't want to digress.

The point was and is that a small mistake now by a pretty senior Administration official is treated as it should be, but wasn't previously and the hypocrisy therein.

Marley, there's your example of incivility (and I am referring to bigdrawman's two posts).

[BigDrawMan]

bigdraw:

you make up an assertion to make a point about something that dint happen relating to an event that few saw, on a game show messgage board, on which you think that the criticisms of quite possibly the most incompetent president in our history,during a worldwide global financial pandemic no less, was too harsh.

Sorry, your logic doesn't follow. If it "dint happen" then how could it be "an event that few saw" regardless of what venue I posted the gaffe on?


you said what you thought would happen if bush had said what biden said

that is a construct of you mind
it did not happen
then you base an argument on what you made up

you made up what you think might have been said about a fictious event to make a point.

that line of reasoning is usually abandoned by puberty.

few see cbs morning news
check the ratings


my:

Why did we have so many threads and so much glee when the previous Administration made minor goofs like this - ones that truly didn't affect anyone or anything?


why are you doing it now?


Against policy or major decisions? Absolutely, our right and duty as citizens to discuss and dissent, if need be.

did agree that disagreement with policies was a good thing if one did disagree. I disagree with your assertions for Bush's culpability for all of your list, but I don't want to digress.


you did digress

his "goofs" were massive

[tlynn78]

Could you boys put away the peepee's? Somebody's gonna lose an eye.

Fly- it's gonna be a long 4(or more) years, it's going to happen, especially while Obama's admin is still in the honeymoon stage - might as well get used to it. The level of disrespect to the office of the pres sunk to a new low the last few years, but if it helps, try to remember the cigar and the blue dress got a lot of play, too.


t.

[Jeemie]

you said what you thought would happen if bush had said what biden said

Yes- that was a supposition, but one that was reasonable to make given past history.

But I'm not surprised- this is a left-leaning board.

On right-leaning boards, Flybrick, you will see the exact same phenomena going on...only in reverse.

That's why I laugh at people who truly believe real change is coming when the parties in power switch...I get a real kick watching the partisans defend behavior they recently descried in others, simply because of the letter next to the name.

[BigDrawMan]

you said what you thought would happen if bush had said what biden said

Yes- that was a supposition, but one that was reasonable to make given past history.


what would have been reasonable was to use real evidence to make a point


I dont understand why anyone would base an argument on something they pulled outta their ass

yet I am drawn to such nonsensicals like ghost to a gray lining

[TheCalvinator24]

you said what you thought would happen if bush had said what biden said

Yes- that was a supposition, but one that was reasonable to make given past history.


what would have been reasonable was to use real evidence to make a point


I dont understand why anyone would base an argument on something they pulled outta their ass

yet I am drawn to such nonsensicals like ghost to a gray lining

Real evidence?

Bush was ridiculed for say "the internets" in one of the debates with John Kerry.

[BigDrawMan]

[quote="tlynn78"]Could you boys put away the peepee's? Somebody's gonna lose an eye.

Fly- it's gonna be a long 4(or more) years, it's going to happen, especially while Obama's admin is still in the honeymoon stage - might as well get used to it. The level of disrespect to the office of the pres sunk to a new low the last few years, but if it helps, try to remember the cigar and the blue dress got a lot of play, too.


and it was George W doing the disrespecting in Big ways, while Clinton did it in salacious ways

but the voting public doesnt care, they both were reelected, while Bush Sr was not.

[Jeemie]

I dont understand why anyone would base an argument on something they pulled outta their ass

yet I am drawn to such nonsensicals like ghost to a gray lining

Cuz it wasn't pulled outta his ass, that's why.

Sure, Bush had a lot of major screw-ups.

But he also got ridiculed for small things, like "the Internets" example Cal gave.

I also remember the NEWS outlets (not the opinion garbage outlets) having as a story Bush leaving a speech/press conference with the PM of China and trying to leave the stage via a locked door.

But anyhow, as was asked, I'll put my pee pee away now". As I said, this board is left-leaning. They'll let the Obama/Biden gaffes slide. It's to be expected.

[tlynn78]

and it was George W doing the disrespecting in Big ways, while Clinton did it in salacious ways

but the voting public doesnt care, they both were reelected, while Bush Sr was not.

Do as I say. And go make something.
Or, put together a FT2N if you want to be helpful.


t.

[MarleysGh0st]

Marley, there's your example of incivility (and I am referring to bigdrawman's two posts).

Yeah, bdm isn't big on civility.

Or capitalization.

[minimetoo26]

Bush was ridiculed for say "the internets" in one of the debates with John Kerry.

Yes--in the debates. Before the election. When we were still trying to pick the least clownish clown.

The election is long over and most of us have moved on, hence the lack of outrage over, or even discussion of, minutiae.

I haven't decided if Brick is working up to a job as a radio talk show host or just a massive coronary before the age of 50.

[Jeemie]

Marley, there's your example of incivility (and I am referring to bigdrawman's two posts).

Yeah, bdm isn't big on civility.

Or capitalization.

I chalk it up to the gout, and the fact Pitt never does anything in the post-season!

[Jeemie]

Bush was ridiculed for say "the internets" in one of the debates with John Kerry.

Yes--in the debates. Before the election. When we were still trying to pick the least clownish clown.

The election is long over and most of us have moved on, hence the lack of outrage over, or even discussion of, minutiae.

I haven't decided if Brick is working up to a job as a radio talk show host or just a massive coronary before the age of 50.

Besides, given how many times we're gonna get something like this from Biden, I don't think there'll be enough bored memory to document all of it!

[Flybrick]

The election is long over and most of us have moved on, hence the lack of outrage over, or even discussion of, minutiae.

Yet this logic didn't apply from 2001-early 2009.

It was relentless. And continues today. Much was made on some left-leaning outlets about former President Bush's trip to a school in Dallas and the kids didn't recognize him.

But no peep of outrage over the President's 19 month, not 16, month withdrawal.

And by withdrawal, I mean leaving up to 50,000 troops in place in Iraq.

Until they leave per the deal Bush signed with the Iraqis.

No peeping going on, to my knowledge.

[peacock2121]

Are you complaining about the "Drive-By Media" or people here?

I am confused about where you outrage is pointed.

[Flybrick]

"Outrage" is too strong a word.

Cynicism and/or mild disgust is a better description.

As to your question, it would be either/or.

Typically, any such media report of Bush buffoonery along the lines of Biden's would result in the aforementioned page plus of gratuitous insults to either the man or the office.

Since Jan 20, 2009, there's not much from the media over such gaffes or the subsequent over the top postings regarding the current crew in power.

[Thousandaire]

"Outrage" is too strong a word.

Cynicism and/or mild disgust is a better description.

As to your question, it would be either/or.

Typically, any such media report of Bush buffoonery along the lines of Biden's would result in the aforementioned page plus of gratuitous insults to either the man or the office.

Since Jan 20, 2009, there's not much from the media over such gaffes or the subsequent over the top postings regarding the current crew in power.

Oh, boo hoo. That's what conservatives do when they lose: whine about the media.

[Flybrick]

Oh, boo hoo. That's what conservatives do when they lose: whine about the media.

I see the civility fairy passed you by as well.

And we whine about the media when we win as well.

It's just been a while since that happened...

edited to add:

I stand partially corrected. Today's Washington Post carries a story (on page 3) on the Iraq withdrawal with Speaker Pelosi expressing "disappointment," Harry Reid "that's a little higher number than I anticipated," and Charles "The American People don't care about pork" Schumer saying, "I'm a little surprised."

Nearly the same level of exposure by the paper and rhetoric expressed by the politicians.

[Thousandaire]

Oh, boo hoo. That's what conservatives do when they lose: whine about the media.

I see the civility fairy passed you by as well.

And we whine about the media when we win as well.

It's just been a while since that happened...

edited to add:

I stand partially corrected. Today's Washington Post carries a story (on page 3) on the Iraq withdrawal with Speaker Pelosi expressing "disappointment," Harry Reid "that's a little higher number than I anticipated," and Charles "The American People don't care about pork" Schumer saying, "I'm a little surprised."

Nearly the same level of exposure by the paper and rhetoric expressed by the politicians.

Man, you are sensitive. Are you sure you're not a liberal?

[Bob Juch]

On CBS' Morning Show yesterday, VP Biden was asked about his role as a watchdog for the spending in the recent Stimulus Bill. He admitted he'd forgotten and looked off-screen, asking his staff, "What's the number to that website?"

He then went on to give the correct web address.

It actually was charming and a mere slip of the tongue, but the same public faux pas would have generated a page and half here if it had been the previous administration.

Curious that...

He obviously was asking for the IP address!

[peacock2121]

Oh, boo hoo. That's what conservatives do when they lose: whine about the media.

I see the civility fairy passed you by as well.

And we whine about the media when we win as well.

It's just been a while since that happened...

edited to add:

I stand partially corrected. Today's Washington Post carries a story (on page 3) on the Iraq withdrawal with Speaker Pelosi expressing "disappointment," Harry Reid "that's a little higher number than I anticipated," and Charles "The American People don't care about pork" Schumer saying, "I'm a little surprised."

Nearly the same level of exposure by the paper and rhetoric expressed by the politicians.

Man, you are sensitive. Are you sure you're not a liberal?

That's the thing! Somehow if one is sensitive (whatever that means), one has to be a liberal.

I could be called sensitive, maybe that's why I get called a liberal.

[ulysses5019]

I see the civility fairy passed you by as well.

And we whine about the media when we win as well.

It's just been a while since that happened...

edited to add:

I stand partially corrected. Today's Washington Post carries a story (on page 3) on the Iraq withdrawal with Speaker Pelosi expressing "disappointment," Harry Reid "that's a little higher number than I anticipated," and Charles "The American People don't care about pork" Schumer saying, "I'm a little surprised."

Nearly the same level of exposure by the paper and rhetoric expressed by the politicians.

Man, you are sensitive. Are you sure you're not a liberal?

That's the thing! Somehow if one is sensitive (whatever that means), one has to be a liberal.

I could be called sensitive, maybe that's why I get called a liberal.

I think you're called a liberal because you're so free with your "bite me's".

[peacock2121]

Man, you are sensitive. Are you sure you're not a liberal?

That's the thing! Somehow if one is sensitive (whatever that means), one has to be a liberal.

I could be called sensitive, maybe that's why I get called a liberal.

I think you're called a liberal because you're so free with your "bite me's".

bite me

[ulysses5019]

That's the thing! Somehow if one is sensitive (whatever that means), one has to be a liberal.

I could be called sensitive, maybe that's why I get called a liberal.

I think you're called a liberal because you're so free with your "bite me's".

bite me

Told ya so!

[BigDrawMan]

Yes- that was a supposition, but one that was reasonable to make given past history.


what would have been reasonable was to use real evidence to make a point


I dont understand why anyone would base an argument on something they pulled outta their ass

yet I am drawn to such nonsensicals like ghost to a gray lining

Real evidence?

Bush was ridiculed for say "the internets" in one of the debates with John Kerry.

you and jeemie reinterpreted and added to rushbrick,rather than commenting on what he actually said

i was wrong to not put him back on the ignore list after he slithered off