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A Computer Email Problem

#1 Post by Sir_Galahad » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:20 pm

Here's a problem I have that I have not yet figured out how to solve. If you have some wisdom in this area, I sure could use your help.

What I am trying to do is this.

I have written an HTML-formatted file which I would like to paste into my email program, send the file and have the recipient get and read the file in HTML format. All tests I have made have failed. In each case, the file arrives exactly as I have pasted it into the program. That is, it is in raw text and not HTML-rendered format. Can you tell me why is the HTML not translated and displayed in the intended HTML? I get other emails that are in HTML format so why is my email not working? Thanks if you can point me in the right direction.
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Re: A Computer Email Problem

#2 Post by Thousandaire » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:24 pm

The recipient's e-mail must be setup to recognize HTML. But I assume you knew that. I can't think of anything else.

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Re: A Computer Email Problem

#3 Post by peacock2121 » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:31 pm

I am just going to sit in the corner and look cute.

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Re: A Computer Email Problem

#4 Post by TheConfessor » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:40 pm

You could send the file as an attachment. But you probably already thought of that.

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Re: A Computer Email Problem

#5 Post by ToLiveIsToFly » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:49 pm

TheConfessor wrote:You could send the file as an attachment. But you probably already thought of that.
How are you trying to paste it? If you just paste in the code, with the tags and all, it won't go.
If your recipient is set up to receive html email from you, you could probably open the html file with your browser, and paste the resulting display into the email.

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Re: A Computer Email Problem

#6 Post by ulysses5019 » Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:13 pm

peacock2121 wrote:I am just going to sit in the corner and look cute.
Can't you hover and look cute?
I believe in the usefulness of useless information.

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Re: A Computer Email Problem

#7 Post by Sir_Galahad » Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:15 pm

ToLiveIsToFly wrote:
TheConfessor wrote:You could send the file as an attachment. But you probably already thought of that.
How are you trying to paste it? If you just paste in the code, with the tags and all, it won't go.
If your recipient is set up to receive html email from you, you could probably open the html file with your browser, and paste the resulting display into the email.
Yes, this is what I was trying to do. So, how does one generate an HTML email message? I get these all the time so I figured (wrongly) that it was as simply as placing the code in the body of the message.
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Re: A Computer Email Problem

#8 Post by Estonut » Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:14 pm

Sir_Galahad wrote:
ToLiveIsToFly wrote:
TheConfessor wrote:You could send the file as an attachment. But you probably already thought of that.
How are you trying to paste it? If you just paste in the code, with the tags and all, it won't go.
If your recipient is set up to receive html email from you, you could probably open the html file with your browser, and paste the resulting display into the email.
Yes, this is what I was trying to do. So, how does one generate an HTML email message? I get these all the time so I figured (wrongly) that it was as simply as placing the code in the body of the message.
Does the software with which you send e-mails have a format menu at the top? In Outlook Express, you can select either Rich Text (HTML) or plain text. I know that Lotus Notes used to have the same feature when I used that at work.

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Re: A Computer Email Problem

#9 Post by ToLiveIsToFly » Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:18 pm

Sir_Galahad wrote:
ToLiveIsToFly wrote:
TheConfessor wrote:You could send the file as an attachment. But you probably already thought of that.
How are you trying to paste it? If you just paste in the code, with the tags and all, it won't go.
If your recipient is set up to receive html email from you, you could probably open the html file with your browser, and paste the resulting display into the email.
Yes, this is what I was trying to do. So, how does one generate an HTML email message? I get these all the time so I figured (wrongly) that it was as simply as placing the code in the body of the message.
Sorry for two things. First, my explanation was for crap. What I meant was put the html code you want to send into a text file, save the text file with an html extension and then open that file with a browser and copy.

Second, there's a good chance this won't work - I was envisioning you using an email client like eudora or outlook or thunderbird. If you're using webmail, this probably won't work (though it can't hurt to try). And if you ARE using a client, there's probably a much easier way to format your email than what I suggested.

On the other hand, I do strongly recommend an email client - this allows you to keep, view, compose, etc your email messages offline.

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Re: A Computer Email Problem

#10 Post by Sir_Galahad » Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:18 pm

Estonut wrote:
Sir_Galahad wrote:
ToLiveIsToFly wrote: How are you trying to paste it? If you just paste in the code, with the tags and all, it won't go.
If your recipient is set up to receive html email from you, you could probably open the html file with your browser, and paste the resulting display into the email.
Yes, this is what I was trying to do. So, how does one generate an HTML email message? I get these all the time so I figured (wrongly) that it was as simply as placing the code in the body of the message.
Does the software with which you send e-mails have a format menu at the top? In Outlook Express, you can select either Rich Text (HTML) or plain text. I know that Lotus Notes used to have the same feature when I used that at work.
No, the one I use does not. I used to use Notes myself but my current email client is rather archaic - but it works for me most of the time. This problem I just could not figure out how to accomplish what I wanted to do or even if it was possible to do that.
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Re: A Computer Email Problem

#11 Post by Estonut » Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:31 pm

Sir_Galahad wrote:
Estonut wrote:
Sir_Galahad wrote: Yes, this is what I was trying to do. So, how does one generate an HTML email message? I get these all the time so I figured (wrongly) that it was as simply as placing the code in the body of the message.
Does the software with which you send e-mails have a format menu at the top? In Outlook Express, you can select either Rich Text (HTML) or plain text. I know that Lotus Notes used to have the same feature when I used that at work.
No, the one I use does not. I used to use Notes myself but my current email client is rather archaic - but it works for me most of the time. This problem I just could not figure out how to accomplish what I wanted to do or even if it was possible to do that.
You haven't commented on the Confessor's suggestion. Have you tried composing your e-mail in Word, saving that as an html and sending that file as an attachment? That may be your only way to go if your client doesn't support composing in html.

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Re: A Computer Email Problem

#12 Post by Sir_Galahad » Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:41 pm

Estonut wrote:
Sir_Galahad wrote:
Estonut wrote:Does the software with which you send e-mails have a format menu at the top? In Outlook Express, you can select either Rich Text (HTML) or plain text. I know that Lotus Notes used to have the same feature when I used that at work.
No, the one I use does not. I used to use Notes myself but my current email client is rather archaic - but it works for me most of the time. This problem I just could not figure out how to accomplish what I wanted to do or even if it was possible to do that.
You haven't commented on the Confessor's suggestion. Have you tried composing your e-mail in Word, saving that as an html and sending that file as an attachment? That may be your only way to go if your client doesn't support composing in html.
Oh, I know I could do that but I was hoping to be able to simply embed the HTML in the body of the outgoing message. It appears as if my email client will not allow me to do this.
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Re: A Computer Email Problem

#13 Post by peacock2121 » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:19 am

ulysses5019 wrote:
peacock2121 wrote:I am just going to sit in the corner and look cute.
Can't you hover and look cute?
The hovered can't see cute.

trust me on that one.

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Re: A Computer Email Problem

#14 Post by Bob Juch » Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:19 pm

Sir_Galahad wrote:
Estonut wrote:
Sir_Galahad wrote: No, the one I use does not. I used to use Notes myself but my current email client is rather archaic - but it works for me most of the time. This problem I just could not figure out how to accomplish what I wanted to do or even if it was possible to do that.
You haven't commented on the Confessor's suggestion. Have you tried composing your e-mail in Word, saving that as an html and sending that file as an attachment? That may be your only way to go if your client doesn't support composing in html.
Oh, I know I could do that but I was hoping to be able to simply embed the HTML in the body of the outgoing message. It appears as if my email client will not allow me to do this.
What is your email client?
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Re: A Computer Email Problem

#15 Post by Sir_Galahad » Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:26 pm

Bob Juch wrote:
Sir_Galahad wrote:
Estonut wrote:You haven't commented on the Confessor's suggestion. Have you tried composing your e-mail in Word, saving that as an html and sending that file as an attachment? That may be your only way to go if your client doesn't support composing in html.
Oh, I know I could do that but I was hoping to be able to simply embed the HTML in the body of the outgoing message. It appears as if my email client will not allow me to do this.
What is your email client?
I am and have been using Juno for over 10 years. I like it because I do not have to go onto the Internet to retrieve or send mail.
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Re: A Computer Email Problem

#16 Post by Bob Juch » Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:23 pm

Sir_Galahad wrote:
Bob Juch wrote:
Sir_Galahad wrote: Oh, I know I could do that but I was hoping to be able to simply embed the HTML in the body of the outgoing message. It appears as if my email client will not allow me to do this.
What is your email client?
I am and have been using Juno for over 10 years. I like it because I do not have to go onto the Internet to retrieve or send mail.
OK, so I'm confused. The only Juno I know of is the ISP. How can you communicate to retrieve or send mail without using the Internet?

I've figured out how to do what you want using Microsoft Office Outlook.
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Re: A Computer Email Problem

#17 Post by Sir_Galahad » Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:34 pm

Bob Juch wrote:
Sir_Galahad wrote:
I am and have been using Juno for over 10 years. I like it because I do not have to go onto the Internet to retrieve or send mail.
OK, so I'm confused. The only Juno I know of is the ISP. How can you communicate to retrieve or send mail without using the Internet?

I've figured out how to do what you want using Microsoft Office Outlook.
Juno has a stand-alone program that retrieves or sends mail on demand (like Outlook). What I meant to say is that I do not have to have a browser open to use email. Yes, it does go out to the Internet to get mail but, again, I do not need to have a browser open. What I am perplexed by is, how come I can receive email in HTML format. If I view the source for an email that I got in HTML it looks just like the one I want to send. I am missing something in the translation here, to coin a phrase.
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Re: A Computer Email Problem

#18 Post by Bob Juch » Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:39 pm

Sir_Galahad wrote:
Bob Juch wrote:
Sir_Galahad wrote:
I am and have been using Juno for over 10 years. I like it because I do not have to go onto the Internet to retrieve or send mail.
OK, so I'm confused. The only Juno I know of is the ISP. How can you communicate to retrieve or send mail without using the Internet?

I've figured out how to do what you want using Microsoft Office Outlook.
Juno has a stand-alone program that retrieves or sends mail on demand (like Outlook). What I meant to say is that I do not have to have a browser open to use email. Yes, it does go out to the Internet to get mail but, again, I do not need to have a browser open. What I am perplexed by is, how come I can receive email in HTML format. If I view the source for an email that I got in HTML it looks just like the one I want to send. I am missing something in the translation here, to coin a phrase.
You need something in the mail header saying it's HTML.

Does your program allow you to compose email in HTML format or just plain text?
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Re: A Computer Email Problem

#19 Post by Sir_Galahad » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:11 pm

Bob Juch wrote:
Sir_Galahad wrote:
Bob Juch wrote: OK, so I'm confused. The only Juno I know of is the ISP. How can you communicate to retrieve or send mail without using the Internet?

I've figured out how to do what you want using Microsoft Office Outlook.
Juno has a stand-alone program that retrieves or sends mail on demand (like Outlook). What I meant to say is that I do not have to have a browser open to use email. Yes, it does go out to the Internet to get mail but, again, I do not need to have a browser open. What I am perplexed by is, how come I can receive email in HTML format. If I view the source for an email that I got in HTML it looks just like the one I want to send. I am missing something in the translation here, to coin a phrase.
You need something in the mail header saying it's HTML.

Does your program allow you to compose email in HTML format or just plain text?
OK. That's the part I am missing. I do not believe Juno has that capability but I will look into it. Thanks.
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Re: A Computer Email Problem

#20 Post by Estonut » Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:02 am

Sir_Galahad wrote:
Bob Juch wrote:
Sir_Galahad wrote: Juno has a stand-alone program that retrieves or sends mail on demand (like Outlook). What I meant to say is that I do not have to have a browser open to use email. Yes, it does go out to the Internet to get mail but, again, I do not need to have a browser open. What I am perplexed by is, how come I can receive email in HTML format. If I view the source for an email that I got in HTML it looks just like the one I want to send. I am missing something in the translation here, to coin a phrase.
You need something in the mail header saying it's HTML.

Does your program allow you to compose email in HTML format or just plain text?
OK. That's the part I am missing. I do not believe Juno has that capability but I will look into it. Thanks.
That's what I asked you 23 hours before BJ did.

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Re: A Computer Email Problem

#21 Post by Sir_Galahad » Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:15 am

Well, I think that I have figured out the problem.

What I was doing (unbeknownst to me until this morning) was copying the text of the file from Notepad, which removes all formatting from a file. If I open the file in MS-Word and copy it from there, the formatting is retained and it works as intended.

Thanks for all the leads and sorry, Estonut, if I did not understand your initial question.
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