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We don't think evolution can explain this phenomenon.

#1 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:16 pm

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feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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#2 Post by BackInTex » Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:24 pm

while the whole evolution thing truly offends me, I will sacrifce my personal disgust at it to do more research on this trend.
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Re: We don't think evolution can explain this phenomenon.

#3 Post by ulysses5019 » Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:33 pm

BackInTex wrote:while the whole evolution thing truly offends me, I will sacrifce my personal disgust at it to do more research on this trend.

I am not offended by evolution but I agree, this needs some hands on work.
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Re: We don't think evolution can explain this phenomenon.

#4 Post by andrewjackson » Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:17 pm

I don't feel evolution is affecting the human race at this point. There is no natural selection so mutation will continue to occur but none of those mutations will propagate through the species since they do not confer any advantage in producing offspring.

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Re: We don't think evolution can explain this phenomenon.

#5 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:26 pm

andrewjackson wrote:I don't feel evolution is affecting the human race at this point. There is no natural selection so mutation will continue to occur but none of those mutations will propagate through the species since they do not confer any advantage in producing offspring.
Nice description of punctuated equilibrium theory
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The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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Re: We don't think evolution can explain this phenomenon.

#6 Post by andrewjackson » Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:06 pm

themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:
andrewjackson wrote:I don't feel evolution is affecting the human race at this point. There is no natural selection so mutation will continue to occur but none of those mutations will propagate through the species since they do not confer any advantage in producing offspring.
Nice description of punctuated equilibrium theory
You think so? That's not what I was going for at all. Punctuated equilibrium is still evolution driven by natural selection. I don't think that is happening to humans right now.
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#7 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:03 pm

andrewjackson wrote:
themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:
andrewjackson wrote:I don't feel evolution is affecting the human race at this point. There is no natural selection so mutation will continue to occur but none of those mutations will propagate through the species since they do not confer any advantage in producing offspring.
Nice description of punctuated equilibrium theory
You think so? That's not what I was going for at all. Punctuated equilibrium is still evolution driven by natural selection. I don't think that is happening to humans right now.
We would be in an equilibrium phase, as there is no evolutionary pressure now.
Suitguy is not bitter.

feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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Re: We don't think evolution can explain this phenomenon.

#8 Post by andrewjackson » Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:16 pm

themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:
andrewjackson wrote:
themanintheseersuckersuit wrote: Nice description of punctuated equilibrium theory
You think so? That's not what I was going for at all. Punctuated equilibrium is still evolution driven by natural selection. I don't think that is happening to humans right now.
We would be in an equilibrium phase, as there is no evolutionary pressure now.
Hmmm. I guess I need to read up more on the punctuated equilibrium theory.
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