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Levaquin, 750 mg

#1 Post by Buffacuse » Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:55 pm

Kills every living thing inside you. I'm on my third round of antibiotics for a sinus bug I cannot shake--and if this stuff doesn't do it--nothing will.

This thing had no fewer than five warning labels on the bottle...and they were all true.

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#2 Post by peacock2121 » Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:11 pm

Hope you are back to normal real soon.

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#3 Post by SportsFan68 » Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:19 pm

I sympathize -- good luck beating the infection.

The dentist wanted to give me Keflex after a root canal this afternoon -- said there was some infection, which might spread in my mouth and cause swelling. I let him give me the prescription, but I won't fill it. Here's why:
Kills every living thing inside you.
Keflex probably isn't as bad as whatever Buffacuse is taking, but I'll pass anyway.
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#4 Post by etaoin22 » Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:10 pm

Levaquin has kept the North American health care system from utter collapse the last ten years; it treats by mouth and allows quick ER discharge vast number of frail elderly who 20 years ago would have needed a week in hospital on IV treatment.

Keflex by contrast is candy.

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#5 Post by BigDrawMan » Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:27 pm

SportsFan68 wrote:I sympathize -- good luck beating the infection.

The dentist wanted to give me Keflex after a root canal this afternoon -- said there was some infection, which might spread in my mouth and cause swelling. I let him give me the prescription, but I won't fill it. Here's why:
Kills every living thing inside you.
Keflex probably isn't as bad as whatever Buffacuse is taking, but I'll pass anyway.


keflex was great in 1978
as were our stillers
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#6 Post by SportsFan68 » Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:44 pm

BigDrawMan wrote:
SportsFan68 wrote:I sympathize -- good luck beating the infection.

The dentist wanted to give me Keflex after a root canal this afternoon -- said there was some infection, which might spread in my mouth and cause swelling. I let him give me the prescription, but I won't fill it. Here's why:
Kills every living thing inside you.
Keflex probably isn't as bad as whatever Buffacuse is taking, but I'll pass anyway.


keflex was great in 1978
as were our stillers
You were lucky.

What horrible disease did you contract that you needed Keflex?
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#7 Post by SportsFan68 » Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:48 pm

etaoin22 wrote:Levaquin has kept the North American health care system from utter collapse the last ten years; it treats by mouth and allows quick ER discharge vast number of frail elderly who 20 years ago would have needed a week in hospital on IV treatment.

Keflex by contrast is candy.
Thanks for the extra details, Doc.

The only reason I knew what Keflex was when the dentist said that's what he was gonna prescribe is because the Gunslinger gets some in Drawing of the Three because a lobstrosity bite gets infected.

I dint fill it -- I feel fine.
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#8 Post by Ritterskoop » Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:53 pm

Sprots, I am also not a big fan of antibiotics, which tend to be overprescribed and which overuse reduces our resistance to stuff, but for a tooth or gum problem I would do it. I am not saying you should do it. But if you are at all on the fence about it, infections in that area can spread to your heart and be very nasty.
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#9 Post by SportsFan68 » Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:59 pm

Ritterskoop wrote:Sprots, I am also not a big fan of antibiotics, which tend to be overprescribed and which overuse reduces our resistance to stuff, but for a tooth or gum problem I would do it. I am not saying you should do it. But if you are at all on the fence about it, infections in that area can spread to your heart and be very nasty.
Thanks, Skoop. I'm really not on the fence and wouldn't have mentioned it if I'd known it would cause you concern.
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#10 Post by Ritterskoop » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:05 pm

My dad takes probiotics when he takes antibiotics. Says it helps the good bugs stay happy.
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#11 Post by SportsFan68 » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:10 pm

Ritterskoop wrote:My dad takes probiotics when he takes antibiotics. Says it helps the good bugs stay happy.
That is my concern. If I ever get to the point where I feel I have to take the antibiotics, I'll take the probiotics too.
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#12 Post by Bob Juch » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:01 pm

SportsFan68 wrote:
BigDrawMan wrote:
SportsFan68 wrote:I sympathize -- good luck beating the infection.

The dentist wanted to give me Keflex after a root canal this afternoon -- said there was some infection, which might spread in my mouth and cause swelling. I let him give me the prescription, but I won't fill it. Here's why: Keflex probably isn't as bad as whatever Buffacuse is taking, but I'll pass anyway.


keflex was great in 1978
as were our stillers
You were lucky.

What horrible disease did you contract that you needed Keflex?
Keflex is given to almost everyone for almost any operation. That's probably not a great idea.
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#13 Post by etaoin22 » Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:34 am

whereas it was once not so:

(1) Pre-op use of antibiotics is one of the areas which is best proven by RCT (randomized controlled trials). Back in 78 or so, a lot of surgeons felt a full therapeutic course of treatment was needed whenever pre-op use was planned, but now much shorter -- mx=48h and those who need have been defined by clinical trial.

(2) Skoop has a point, although obliquely:

(3) If there is a heart murmur or other proven condition which increases risk of subacute bacterial endocarditis, the dentist will not touch you until one of the standard SBE prophylaxis regimens is given. And you take or start to take the antibiotics BEFORE not AFTER the procedure.

(4) What is of concern to the dentist is that now that he has put furrin material for the root canal, that any left-over bacteria may not be handled by the body's defenses, and will eventually form an abscess at the base of the tooth, and the only thing dentistry has to offer is to take the rusty old pliers and pull the tooth. That possibility is the issure.

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#14 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:36 am

etaoin22 wrote:whereas it was once not so:

(1) Pre-op use of antibiotics is one of the areas which is best proven by RCT (randomized controlled trials). Back in 78 or so, a lot of surgeons felt a full therapeutic course of treatment was needed whenever pre-op use was planned, but now much shorter -- mx=48h and those who need have been defined by clinical trial.

(2) Skoop has a point, although obliquely:

(3) If there is a heart murmur or other proven condition which increases risk of subacute bacterial endocarditis, the dentist will not touch you until one of the standard SBE prophylaxis regimens is given. And you take or start to take the antibiotics BEFORE not AFTER the procedure.

(4) What is of concern to the dentist is that now that he has put furrin material for the root canal, that any left-over bacteria may not be handled by the body's defenses, and will eventually form an abscess at the base of the tooth, and the only thing dentistry has to offer is to take the rusty old pliers and pull the tooth. That possibility is the issure.
My father's dentist has him take antibiotics before working on him due to his hip replacement.
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#15 Post by Estonut » Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:46 am

Bob Juch wrote:
etaoin22 wrote:whereas it was once not so:

(1) Pre-op use of antibiotics is one of the areas which is best proven by RCT (randomized controlled trials). Back in 78 or so, a lot of surgeons felt a full therapeutic course of treatment was needed whenever pre-op use was planned, but now much shorter -- mx=48h and those who need have been defined by clinical trial.

(2) Skoop has a point, although obliquely:

(3) If there is a heart murmur or other proven condition which increases risk of subacute bacterial endocarditis, the dentist will not touch you until one of the standard SBE prophylaxis regimens is given. And you take or start to take the antibiotics BEFORE not AFTER the procedure.

(4) What is of concern to the dentist is that now that he has put furrin material for the root canal, that any left-over bacteria may not be handled by the body's defenses, and will eventually form an abscess at the base of the tooth, and the only thing dentistry has to offer is to take the rusty old pliers and pull the tooth. That possibility is the issure.
My father's dentist has him take antibiotics before working on him due to his hip replacement.
That's weird. When did the dentist have his hip replaced? :)

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#16 Post by BigDrawMan » Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:15 pm

SportsFan68 wrote:
BigDrawMan wrote:
SportsFan68 wrote:I sympathize -- good luck beating the infection.

The dentist wanted to give me Keflex after a root canal this afternoon -- said there was some infection, which might spread in my mouth and cause swelling. I let him give me the prescription, but I won't fill it. Here's why: Keflex probably isn't as bad as whatever Buffacuse is taking, but I'll pass anyway.


keflex was great in 1978
as were our stillers
You were lucky.

What horrible disease did you contract that you needed Keflex?


abcessed tonsils

it killed george washington
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#17 Post by Ritterskoop » Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:26 pm

BigDrawMan wrote:

abcessed tonsils

it killed george washington

I am thinking GWash died from complications from syphilis, one of which I suppose could have been abscessed tonsils.

On another note, you can have your tonsils removed, you know. I did so 3 years ago, though my abscesses were not the incredibly nasty ones I saw pictures of. I bet yours are.
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#18 Post by BigDrawMan » Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:36 pm

Ritterskoop wrote:
BigDrawMan wrote:

abcessed tonsils

it killed george washington

I am thinking GWash died from complications from syphilis, one of which I suppose could have been abscessed tonsils.

On another note, you can have your tonsils removed, you know. I did so 3 years ago, though my abscesses were not the incredibly nasty ones I saw pictures of. I bet yours are.


this was in 84ish.I had mono the week before finals and gutted it out,strep and the tonsil gunk followed.
I stopped at the ER on the way home for xmas break.
The doc pulled out a harpoon sized needle and shot up my tonsils.He told me GW died from it.

I have had only mild tonsil issues since.
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#19 Post by SportsFan68 » Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:45 pm

BigDrawMan wrote:
SportsFan68 wrote:
BigDrawMan wrote:

keflex was great in 1978
as were our stillers
You were lucky.

What horrible disease did you contract that you needed Keflex?


abcessed tonsils

it killed george washington
Shoulda had 'em out -- you were still young enough. As they were life-threatening.
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