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Judge rules against silence

#1 Post by ne1410s » Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:29 pm

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CHICAGO (AP) — A federal judge ruled Wednesday that the state law requiring a moment of silence in public schools across Illinois is unconstitutional, saying it crosses the line separating church and state.
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#2 Post by BackInTex » Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:32 pm

ne1410s wrote:NYT:
CHICAGO (AP) — A federal judge ruled Wednesday that the state law requiring a moment of silence in public schools across Illinois is unconstitutional, saying it crosses the line separating church and state.
Thank God.
He's probably for gay marriage and against TOPG as well.
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#3 Post by Governor Blago » Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:32 pm

ne1410s wrote:NYT:
CHICAGO (AP) — A federal judge ruled Wednesday that the state law requiring a moment of silence in public schools across Illinois is unconstitutional, saying it crosses the line separating church and state.
Thank God.

God has a lot of cash, right?

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#4 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:24 pm

ne1410s wrote:NYT:
CHICAGO (AP) — A federal judge ruled Wednesday that the state law requiring a moment of silence in public schools across Illinois is unconstitutional, saying it crosses the line separating church and state.
Thank God.
My bet is that he will get overturned. There is nothing on the face of "moment of silence" that would violate the 1st Amendment or even run afoul of the silly "Lemon Test"
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#5 Post by ne1410s » Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:44 pm

George Will (I think):

As long as there are math tests, there will always be prayer in school.
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#6 Post by mrkelley23 » Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:44 pm

I can't speak for other states, but in Indiana it was a very transparent attempt by the people who think school mandated prayer was a good thing to sneak prayer back in the schools by the back door. Why some Christians think it is so important to force others to indulge in their religious traditions that they would employ sneaky, underhanded tactics is beyond me, but oh well.

As for the Moment of Silence, I don't find it unconstitutional per se, just silly and unproductive.
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#7 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:33 pm

mrkelley23 wrote:I can't speak for other states, but in Indiana it was a very transparent attempt by the people who think school mandated prayer was a good thing to sneak prayer back in the schools by the back door. Why some Christians think it is so important to force others to indulge in their religious traditions that they would employ sneaky, underhanded tactics is beyond me, but oh well.

As for the Moment of Silence, I don't find it unconstitutional per se, just silly and unproductive.
You get no disagreement with me on that point, either.
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#8 Post by gsabc » Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:41 pm

mrkelley23 wrote:As for the Moment of Silence, I don't find it unconstitutional per se, just silly and unproductive.
Not for the teachers, for whom it is the last moment of quiet they get before the day's chaos starts.
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#9 Post by silverscreenselect » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:11 am

Most teachers would prefer about eight hours of silence a day in public schools.
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#10 Post by Jeemie » Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:37 am

ne1410s wrote:NYT:
CHICAGO (AP) — A federal judge ruled Wednesday that the state law requiring a moment of silence in public schools across Illinois is unconstitutional, saying it crosses the line separating church and state.
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That's very funny.
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