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#26 Post by silverscreenselect » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:24 pm

ghostjmf wrote:The DVD definitely was from a 3rd-party vendor. Selling slightly defective but watchable DVDs, & not advertising them as slightly defective.

Most of my purchases in life are not upwards of hundreds of dollars. So the sales tax is no big deal. Less than UPS or FedEx charges would be, generally. Those DVDs shipped USPS, & there was no other option. Cheap, but not the shipping service I would have chosen.

Not nearly as cheap as the charges to get it to me, as the company (Amazon in your case) ships in bulk & gets special rates, a little of which saving they may actually pass on to the customer.


When its my credit card being reimbursed, & not RichU's expense accounts, I am, would you believe, so much more anxious to get that money back even faster.
Refurbished items do not carry manufacturer's warranties. They may carry a warranty from the company that sells them to you which is only worth as much as the reputation of that particular company.

Older models which have never been out of the box do carry maufacturer's warranties as long as you purchased them from an authorized retailer. I worked for an appliance store that sold scratch and dent merchandise and warehouse closeouts and we frequently sold 2-3 year old models and even older. Because we worked directly with the manufacturers, our customers never had a problem submitting a warranty claim, no matter how old the item was. However, a lot of what is sold out there at flea markets, on ebay, at thrift shops, etc., is grey market merchandise which means that the person who sold it to you can't document that he obtained it through authorized channels. At worst, it's stolen or refurbished. At best, it's just fallen through the normal retail channels and the manufacturer is no longer obliged to honor the warranties.

The companies that I have seen that sell electronics on Amazon are reputable e-retailers, and, further, Amazon guarantees against missing parts or used (unless advertised as such), damaged, or defective items if payment is made through Amazon. So even if an Amazon merchant pulls a "fast one" on you, Amazon will stand behind it.

I wouldn't have a problem buying a small electronic item through Amazon, such as a digital camera, camcorder, or DVD player. There's no guarantee against a defective item (or one damaged in shipping), but you have the same problem if you but it from Best Buy. I would have a problem buying a large bulky item like a refrigerator or big screen TV because it would be a real hassle for me to get it packaged and back to them if there was a problem with it. But I don't think that such an item is inherently more likely to be defective or damaged then one bought from a local retailer.

If you are not reasonably knowledgeable about the item you are purchasing, know how it's supposed to work, and how it's supposed to be hooked up with whatever other equipment you have, then you may have a problem in getting the right technical support from an online etailer hundreds of miles away. In that case, you also might be better off if you buy it locally so you can take it in and have them demonstrate to you just what's supposed to be hooked up and how (or pay them to come out and put it in initially).

I have bought two electronic items from Amazon, a Pioneer DVD player and an Onkyo receiver and never had a problem. In addition, we received a Nikon digital camera as a gift from Crutchfield and never had a problem with it either.
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#27 Post by ghostjmf » Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:23 pm

I had problems getting Sony to back up their own in-house-authorized repairs of their Walkman Pro D6 (I think that's the model #; gotta go home & look) tape recorder. They just stopped "supporting the machine", & said "get lost". Apparently when Sony stops making a model, they stop fixing that model. That's when I hunted out & found local electronics repair shop, complete with mad genius former-name-brand-speaker-designer, who fixes things amazingly but whom you don't want to get in a discussion of anything other than electronics with. You also don't want to differ with said mad genius about anything electronic, but said mad genius does know their stuff better than other people. Except they don't sometimes realize that other-people, meaning me, will trade, on a VCR at the time, a little bit of highest quality recording against needed-option availability. So I wound up not buying a refurbished VCR with a great motor etc but without a lot of other features from them, & they were a trifle miffed at that.

I am happy that the people your company dealt with did honor warranties on discontinued models. I would hazard a guess that they made sure the companies would, unlike Sony, honor those warranties before they agreed to sell those discontinued models. I admit I have a hard time believing that Amazon has gotten the same agreement from all the manufacturers they sell merchandise for.

I also wonder why a company would put their merchandise out on Amazon, at a discount, generally, if its not a discontinued model, or about-to-be. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against discontinued models; my Sony TV, when I bought it at a big discount, was just such a thing. I didn't know, at the time, that Sony, after a certain length of time has passed since a model is discontinued, refuses to "support the machine".

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