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Workplace ethics questions

#1 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:18 am

If you scheduled stay-at-home vacation time, but you got sick during those days at home, when you got back to work, would you enter the time on your time sheet as Vacation or Sick Time?
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#2 Post by SportsFan68 » Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:25 am

Vacation.
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#3 Post by Appa23 » Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:27 am

I would still enter the time as vacation time. It was the reason why I had approved leave for that time.

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#4 Post by peacock2121 » Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:39 am

You were on vacation, so it is vacation time.

Is there something called "stay-at-home" vacation or is that just what you planned to do on your vacation?

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#5 Post by Catfish » Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:46 am

I'd tell my supervisor what happened and enter the time as she instructs.
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#6 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:47 am

peacock2121 wrote:You were on vacation, so it is vacation time.

Is there something called "stay-at-home" vacation or is that just what you planned to do on your vacation?
That's just what I did Monday-Wednesday of last week. I used the phrase to distinguish it from a vacation when I go somewhere. If that had been the case, I wouldn't have even considered changing the time code.
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#7 Post by peacock2121 » Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:48 am

TheCalvinator24 wrote:
peacock2121 wrote:You were on vacation, so it is vacation time.

Is there something called "stay-at-home" vacation or is that just what you planned to do on your vacation?
That's just what I did Monday-Wednesday of last week. I used the phrase to distinguish it from a vacation when I go somewhere. If that had been the case, I wouldn't have even considered changing the time code.
For me, that answers your question.

What difference does it make where you spent your vacation time being sick?

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#8 Post by Beebs52 » Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:50 am

It wouldn't matter for us since we have bundled PTO (paid time off). You have so many hours during the year and may use them however you want.
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#9 Post by peacock2121 » Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:53 am

Beebs52 wrote:It wouldn't matter for us since we have bundled PTO (paid time off). You have so many hours during the year and may use them however you want.
When Pealette worked for Curcuit City, they had "time away". They did not have a given number of days. She just needed to get her time away approved. Some ended up with more days than others. It never caused a problem. That shocked me.

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#10 Post by mntetn » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:54 pm

Here, we are allowed to change vacation time to sick, but it has to be supported by a doctor's statement. This might be useful if you got sick enough to ruin your vacation, i.e you could not do the things you planned, whether it be travel or just work around the house, and thus would want to try again later.

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#11 Post by SportsFan68 » Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:18 pm

peacock2121 wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:It wouldn't matter for us since we have bundled PTO (paid time off). You have so many hours during the year and may use them however you want.
When Pealette worked for Curcuit City, they had "time away". They did not have a given number of days. She just needed to get her time away approved. Some ended up with more days than others. It never caused a problem. That shocked me.
A local business asks employees to declare their vacation time off for the coming year, and if it's more than two weeks, then their pay is adjusted accordingly. SteelersFan's friend ended up taking three or four more days off than he declared, so he had to "pay it back" the following year. If he had quit, the company would have been out those hours.
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#12 Post by ToLiveIsToFly » Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:30 pm

One of the perks where I work is a subsidized shared vacation. Staff from all around the country get together for a week. (I haven't gone since I got married, nostly since both of our families are far from where we live, and not near each other, and we'd rather use our vacations seeing them. I planned to go last year, since it was an "alumni year" and the wife's an alumna, but Frankie was due during that week, so we didn't. We'll probably go next year. I think Frankie'll have a great time.)

Anyhow, one year in the early 2000's, some kind of bug ran rampant through the whole community. I don't know what portion of the people got sick, but it might have been as many as half, and definitely included me.

The following week we got a memo from our equivalent of HR that anyone who got sick could change up to 3 of their vacation days to sick days. I thought it was really nice.

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#13 Post by etaoin22 » Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:39 pm

Sick time. Assuming a salaried individual, or hourly-rated.

Assuming ordinary type-illness not specifically vacation or recreation or for that matter occupation-related.

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#14 Post by sunflower » Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:50 pm

I'm guessing you have a policy on it, so I would defer to that. Some companies are more lenient than others.

If it's not in the policy and you don't want to ask, my feeling is that the right thing to do is take vacation time as you planned. You requested time off, whether you go away or stay home, go out on the town or lay on the couch, it was requested and while it is unfortunate, it doesn't change the fact that you were already scheduled to be out of the office. Sick time, in my opinion, is to be used when you have to call the office and say "I can't come in today, I'm sick". That was not the case since you knew before you woke up sick that you wouldn't be going in.

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#15 Post by Ritterskoop » Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:35 pm

Vacation. Getting sick was irrelevant.

Was there just the one question, or is there an accidental s in the header?
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#16 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:00 pm

Ritterskoop wrote:Vacation. Getting sick was irrelevant.

Was there just the one question, or is there an accidental s in the header?
I would have sworn that it didn't have the extraneous "s" when I posted it.
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