Liberalism -- Mental Disorder

[Appa23]

I thought that whole wife-leaving thing was about John McCain...

Heh, I thought the same thing. Wouldn't it be funny if it actually was?

Well, I would have to delete a lot of posts.

However, none of the facts seem to fit (arguable on the last part dealing with abortion). I thought that McCain had a child by his first wife, and he is incredibly involved in adoption (which is helping people have families if they want them.)

[sunflower]

I am not going to get in the middle of the daniel/mini thing...that is between them.

I am personally upset at being lumped into a group that is being insulted for having a set of beliefs. Sometimes when people are insulted, over and over and over again, they lash out. Is it okay? It's not ideal, but it does happen. And maybe one remark doesn't seem that bad, but it's the "straw that broke the camel's back" for the recipient and they finally snap.

I have a history of mental illness in my family so maybe I'm hypersensitive to it and feel personally attacked with a thread like this. I don't feel personally attacked, but I'm just saying you never know what is going on in people's heads or worlds (unless they tell you). I think keeping that in mind, and not making remarks that you know could be taken as inflammatory or offensive is probably a better way to conduct yourself. And if you don't, don't be suprised if someone does lash out.

That is all I want to say...

[JBillyGirl]

I thought that whole wife-leaving thing was about John McCain...

Heh, I thought the same thing. Wouldn't it be funny if it actually was?

I thought it was about John McCain, too. I don't remember Daniel sharing such personal details about his own life, but then I don't get to read everything around here these days.

(And yes, McCain did have a child with his first wife, but that was before said wife's disfiguring automobile accident.)

[Jeemie]

Was it really a personal attack, though? I don't know anything about danielh, but I thought that comment could have applied very well to John McCain.

No.

First of all, it doesn't fit.

Second of all, read Daniel's response to it.

It was indeed a low blow...but this is why I, personally, reveal almost next to nothing of my personal life on the web. No matter how long I've been in a "group", or how "comfortable" I feel with the people.

Because stuff like this happens when people on the web who are isolated from one another and anonymous, even given a long association such as this group has had, get angry.

People say things on the Web they'd probably never say to a person's face.

Nope- all should follow the old Klingon proverb- if you don't want a thing heard, do not say it.

[ToLiveIsToFly]

So, because Frank called me a bigot in the Prop 8 thread, I am allowed to personally attack him, and everyone else would say that it was justified. I think not.

It wasn't Frank who called you a bigot in the Prop 8 thread. It was me. Which was a dumb thing to do. I posted later that I owed people an apology and would write one when I had time to carefully choose my words. That hasn't happened yet, though this is another reminder that I need to do it, and I need to do it soon.

[HelpBrainTumorPatients]

We're having a half off special on lobotomies through the end of the year if you're interested....

[Appa23]

So, because Frank called me a bigot in the Prop 8 thread, I am allowed to personally attack him, and everyone else would say that it was justified. I think not.

It wasn't Frank who called you a bigot in the Prop 8 thread. It was me. Which was a dumb thing to do. I posted later that I owed people an apology and would write one when I had time to carefully choose my words. That hasn't happened yet, though this is another reminder that I need to do it, and I need to do it soon.

I have been called a bigot, racist, and so many other things on this Bored, who can keep it straight?


How is your boy? I am thankful that we escaped too much medical drama (though The Boy nearly was hospitalized with RSV. I looked upon those repeated, middle-of-the-night breathing treatments as bonding time. Never tell your wife such things, as you end up being the one who has to rock the baby when he/she awakes during the night).

Baby Big Bird is going in for her latest (and hopefully last) operation to remove the remaining portion of the congenital nevus on her scalp. Then, it is waiting time to see if anything more malignant re-occurs.

[franktangredi]

So, because Frank called me a bigot in the Prop 8 thread, I am allowed to personally attack him, and everyone else would say that it was justified. I think not.

It wasn't Frank who called you a bigot in the Prop 8 thread. It was me. Which was a dumb thing to do. I posted later that I owed people an apology and would write one when I had time to carefully choose my words. That hasn't happened yet, though this is another reminder that I need to do it, and I need to do it soon.

Thanks for straightening that out. I was about to ask for a citation, because I tried very hard not to say that on the Prop 8 thread.

[Jeemie]

I just knew my conscious decision to hate everybody was a good idea...

[ToLiveIsToFly]

So, because Frank called me a bigot in the Prop 8 thread, I am allowed to personally attack him, and everyone else would say that it was justified. I think not.

It wasn't Frank who called you a bigot in the Prop 8 thread. It was me. Which was a dumb thing to do. I posted later that I owed people an apology and would write one when I had time to carefully choose my words. That hasn't happened yet, though this is another reminder that I need to do it, and I need to do it soon.

I have been called a bigot, racist, and so many other things on this Bored, who can keep it straight?


How is your boy? I am thankful that we escaped too much medical drama (though The Boy nearly was hospitalized with RSV. I looked upon those repeated, middle-of-the-night breathing treatments as bonding time. Never tell your wife such things, as you end up being the one who has to rock the baby when he/she awakes during the night).

Baby Big Bird is going in for her latest (and hopefully last) operation to remove the remaining portion of the congenital nevus on her scalp. Then, it is waiting time to see if anything more malignant re-occurs.

He's mostly good. He's got day care sniffle, which he gave me. I'm starting to suspect that we'll both have runny noses until he leaves daycare. Fortunately for this, unfortunately for almost everything else, that day is very likely coming soon. (Not that I think anyone really wants to know this, but a side benefit of a CPAP machine is that it does a great job clearing up nasal congestion at night)

What's RSV? I have this awful/comical vision in my head of someone being hospitalized because of a bible translation.

[Appa23]

What's RSV? I have this awful/comical vision in my head of someone being hospitalized because of a bible translation.

You call yourself a devoted parent, and you haven't spent nights awake fearing that your son's cold is RSV?

Respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) essentially is the cause of bronchitis and penumonia in young children, as I recall.

In our case, our son was having a very hard time breathing because of a "bad cold" when he was around 6-7 months old. He had to take nebulizer breathing treatments every 4 hours (IIRC) at home. The treatment took somewhere between 15 and 30 minutes. (it was 8 years ago -- who can remember?)

Usually, I would sit right by his crib, put the mouthpiece and hose through the bars, and then hold it right over his mouth and nose as he slept. Sometimes, I would hold him while doing the treatment.

Princess Peanut is the only child that did not require the rental of medical equipment as a baby. (Baby Big Bird needed a Wallaby light jacket for jaundice.)

[ToLiveIsToFly]

What's RSV? I have this awful/comical vision in my head of someone being hospitalized because of a bible translation.

You call yourself a devoted parent, and you haven't spent nights awake fearing that your son's cold is RSV?

Respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) essentially is the cause of bronchitis and penumonia in young children, as I recall.

In our case, our son was having a very hard time breathing because of a "bad cold" when he was around 6-7 months old. He had to take nebulizer breathing treatments every 4 hours (IIRC) at home. The treatment took somewhere between 15 and 30 minutes. (it was 8 years ago -- who can remember?)

Usually, I would sit right by his crib, put the mouthpiece and hose through the bars, and then hold it right over his mouth and nose as he slept. Sometimes, I would hold him while doing the treatment.

Princess Peanut is the only child that did not require the rental of medical equipment as a baby. (Baby Big Bird needed a Wallaby light jacket for jaundice.)

He doesn't have any trouble breathing, just an occasional wet cough and a nose that's often runny, which we irrigate from time to time. (BOY does he hate that!).

I guess we're pretty trusting of Frankie's health care providers (the main person he sees is a NP who is also a lactation consultant, who brings in the MDs when necessary). She saw him as recently as last Monday and hasn't mentioned this as a worry at all.

[Appa23]

What's RSV? I have this awful/comical vision in my head of someone being hospitalized because of a bible translation.

You call yourself a devoted parent, and you haven't spent nights awake fearing that your son's cold is RSV?

Respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) essentially is the cause of bronchitis and penumonia in young children, as I recall.

In our case, our son was having a very hard time breathing because of a "bad cold" when he was around 6-7 months old. He had to take nebulizer breathing treatments every 4 hours (IIRC) at home. The treatment took somewhere between 15 and 30 minutes. (it was 8 years ago -- who can remember?)

Usually, I would sit right by his crib, put the mouthpiece and hose through the bars, and then hold it right over his mouth and nose as he slept. Sometimes, I would hold him while doing the treatment.

Princess Peanut is the only child that did not require the rental of medical equipment as a baby. (Baby Big Bird needed a Wallaby light jacket for jaundice.)

He doesn't have any trouble breathing, just an occasional wet cough and a nose that's often runny, which we irrigate from time to time. (BOY does he hate that!).

I guess we're pretty trusting of Frankie's health care providers (the main person he sees is a NP who is also a lactation consultant, who brings in the MDs when necessary). She saw him as recently as last Monday and hasn't mentioned this as a worry at all.

TLTF: I was kidding you about "devoted parent"/RSV.

There can be an overreaction, especially in "newbie" parents, to think that every cold is RSV.

I think that the happiest day as a parent might be when a child can blow their own nose, so that you do not have to irrigate and use the "nose sucker".

[ToLiveIsToFly]

You call yourself a devoted parent, and you haven't spent nights awake fearing that your son's cold is RSV?

Respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) essentially is the cause of bronchitis and penumonia in young children, as I recall.

In our case, our son was having a very hard time breathing because of a "bad cold" when he was around 6-7 months old. He had to take nebulizer breathing treatments every 4 hours (IIRC) at home. The treatment took somewhere between 15 and 30 minutes. (it was 8 years ago -- who can remember?)

Usually, I would sit right by his crib, put the mouthpiece and hose through the bars, and then hold it right over his mouth and nose as he slept. Sometimes, I would hold him while doing the treatment.

Princess Peanut is the only child that did not require the rental of medical equipment as a baby. (Baby Big Bird needed a Wallaby light jacket for jaundice.)

He doesn't have any trouble breathing, just an occasional wet cough and a nose that's often runny, which we irrigate from time to time. (BOY does he hate that!).

I guess we're pretty trusting of Frankie's health care providers (the main person he sees is a NP who is also a lactation consultant, who brings in the MDs when necessary). She saw him as recently as last Monday and hasn't mentioned this as a worry at all.

TLTF: I was kidding you about "devoted parent"/RSV.

There can be an overreaction, especially in "newbie" parents, to think that every cold is RSV.

I think that the happiest day as a parent might be when a child can blow their own nose, so that you do not have to irrigate and use the "nose sucker".

I didn't think you were calling me a non-devoted parent. I did think you were educating me about something I didn't really know about, and I appreciate it.

[danielh41]

He has also insulted every gay person on this board by claiming they are corrupt and that his life and relationship has more validity than theirs.

He's probably said a lot more, but I haven't read it.

Now you are putting words in my mouth. I posted three times in the Prop 8 thread and one of those was just a comment about how long the thread was getting. About the only time I might have even implied than any gay person on this board was corrupt might have been by comparing what I see from gay activists with what is described in Romans chapter one. I don't recall discussing homosexuality in any other thread here, mainly because it's not something I give much thought to.

[WheresFanny]

He has also insulted every gay person on this board by claiming they are corrupt and that his life and relationship has more validity than theirs.

He's probably said a lot more, but I haven't read it.

Now you are putting words in my mouth. I posted three times in the Prop 8 thread and one of those was just a comment about how long the thread was getting. About the only time I might have even implied than any gay person on this board was corrupt might have been by comparing what I see from gay activists with what is described in Romans chapter one. I don't recall discussing homosexuality in any other thread here, mainly because it's not something I give much thought to.

See what happens when you go to the post office and get logged off of the board?


Since you conveniently ignored the first part of my post, I guess we'll just stip to that.

From the Prop 8 Thread:

My reference to marriage in Genesis was a reference to the very beginning in Eden. Most Christians believe that God created a perfect world and that he made marriage between one man and one woman as it was in the garden of Eden. In fact, my wife and I have begun to use that as a model--husband and wife in communion with God. It was when humankind turned away from God that his perfect creation became corrupted.

Argue semantics all you want, I'm logged in now and won't see it.

[peacock2121]

If you don't think Daniel's original post in this thread was a vitriolic attack on every liberal here, then you just don't get it.

I really did not read his post, as I could see the gist of it from the title.

In a way, you are right that I do not get it.

I see a significant difference between what Daniel posts in the abstract and someone using personal information to attack a specific BB.

How abstract is it that one paints a large percentage of one's peers with the description "mental disorder". Where is that abstract? He said himself he wanted to see how many people he ticked off. That isn't abstract. You really should read what he posted before you try to define what he posted.

That would be so out of character, now wouldn't it?

I wouldn't mind that.