To Ms. Palin: I know Joe-Six-Pack;

[wbtravis007]

I've worked with Joe-Six -Pack; I'm a friend of Joe-Six-Pack.

Joe-Six-Pack knows damned well that he shouldn't be close to being the President.

Well, aside from when he's drunk, that is.

[Cutesy wink.]

[BigDrawMan]

I've worked with Joe-Six -Pack; I'm a friend of Joe-Six-Pack.

Joe-Six-Pack knows damned well that he shouldn't be close to being the President.

Well, aside from when he's drunk, that is.

[Cutesy wink.]

Joe would need a case if he played the "my friends" drinking game tonite.

[peacock2121]

gosh darn it

[SloppyDrunkGuy]

You (HIC!) talking' to me...??? (HIC!)

Nice, uh... (hic!) thong you got there.... (HIC!)

[Flybrick]

I know Joe as well.

He's usually got common sense and a strong work ethic, is loyal to his friends, mean to his enemies, salutes the flag, and thinks America is the best place on earth. Sure, he's a little rough around the edges, more at home in jeans than a suit. He cooks hamburgers rather than ordering cordon bleu.

He hunts, fishes, and appreciates nature. I may not always agree with him on all issues, but he's generally a good guy.

I can vote for that.

And will.

[franktangredi]

"When we are sick, we want an uncommon doctor; when we have a construction job to do, we want an uncommon engineer, and when we are at war, we want an uncommon general. It is only when we get into politics that we are satisfied with the common man." -- Herbert Hoover

[wbtravis007]

I know Joe as well.

He's usually got common sense and a strong work ethic, is loyal to his friends, mean to his enemies, salutes the flag, and thinks America is the best place on earth. Sure, he's a little rough around the edges, more at home in jeans than a suit. He cooks hamburgers rather than ordering cordon bleu.

He hunts, fishes, and appreciates nature. I may not always agree with him on all issues, but he's generally a good guy.

I can vote for that.

And will.

I guess that means you're voting for the white guy.

I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that most women who like to hunt are lesbians.

NTTAWWT.

[Flybrick]

I guess that means you're voting for the white guy.

I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that most women who like to hunt are lesbians.

NTTAWWT.

Nice.

It couldn't be that A) I disagree with the few policies of Obama that he puts forth and B) I'd rather have two non-lawyers with other experiences in office than two lawyers that have done nothing else than be in office or run for office

Nope, it's gotta be racism and lesbianism.

Very nice and neat categorization.

[dimmzy]

Nope, it's gotta be racism and lesbianism.

Or maybe anti-attorneyism.

[tlynn78]

I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that most women who like to hunt are lesbians.

Why don't you ask Sprots? I'm pretty sure you'll have more room in your thong afterwards.


t.

[peacock2121]

I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that most women who like to hunt are lesbians.

Why don't you ask Sprots? I'm pretty sure you'll have more room in your thong afterwards.


t.

Good one!

[ne1410s]

Navy Seals are an elite fighting group. This must stop! We must stock the Seals with sailors who nearly flunked out of training. This is the only way to have true leadership in our fighting forces. And, if they have been captured on a mission, they will be made into officers.

[Flybrick]

Navy Seals are an elite fighting group. This must stop! We must stock the Seals with sailors who nearly flunked out of training. This is the only way to have true leadership in our fighting forces. And, if they have been captured on a mission, they will be made into officers.

Uhh, what?!

Yes, Navy Seals were an elite unit. Those undersea mammals were trained to detect mines and the like.

Oh, you mean Navy SEALS (SEa, Air, Land). Yes, they most certainly are elite. Should you ever met one, thank the nice gentleman for serving our country, buy him a drink, then be on your way.

SEALS have one of the, if not THE, hardest qualification regimes in the world, not just the US military.

If this nonsensical post was somehow related to John McCain's Navy career, again, I ask "Uh, what?!"

I'm unaware that he ever tried out for the SEALS, but would be interested to know if he did.

I'd love to know if you are referring to McCain as 'nearly flunking out.' Hint, what do you call the top graduate of the US Naval Academy and the bottom or "anchor?"

In both cases, it's "Ensign" or "Lieutenant" if they pick the Marines.

Another hint, if you graduate from the Academy, you are awarded a commission as a naval or marine officer not due to getting shot down.

By the way, there were several Medals of Honor won by prisoners of war. You don't get those for just showing up.

In the Pentagon, there is a room, popular for promotion and retirement ceremonies. That room is called "The Hall of Heroes" because it features every Medal of Honor winner's name, branch of service, date of award, and a very brief synopsis of how the award was earned.

It is a very hallowed room.

Most of the Medals, by the way, are awarded posthumouosly. (Final hint, that means the guy died while doing something incredibly brave or immediately afterwards from his wounds.)

Funny, a lot of those guys are or were Joe Six Packs.

[ne1410s]

fly:

Oh, you mean Navy SEALS (SEa, Air, Land). Yes, they most certainly are elite. Should you ever met one, thank the nice gentleman for serving our country, buy him a drink, then be on your way.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry that my post went completely over your head.




Tool.

[Flybrick]

Pick your emotional reaction and go for it.

I'll admit it, I did not understand your post.

Pray tell, enlighten me.

And a quick quiz: Did anyone else 'get it?'

You know us Six Packs, always a bit slow on the uptake. Which is why we don't run for office. The professional politicians have been doing so well for so long...

[SportsFan68]

I know Joe as well.

He's usually got common sense and a strong work ethic, is loyal to his friends, mean to his enemies, salutes the flag, and thinks America is the best place on earth. Sure, he's a little rough around the edges, more at home in jeans than a suit. He cooks hamburgers rather than ordering cordon bleu.

He hunts, fishes, and appreciates nature. I may not always agree with him on all issues, but he's generally a good guy.

I can vote for that.

And will.

I knew I liked Fly! He woulda voted for me in the last election.

The only item I come up a little bit short on is being mean to my enemies. Not that I really have any "enemies." The person I ran against (and who won) hasn't spoken word one to me in two years, except when I caught her off guard and said, "Hi, OtherCandidate!" in the courthouse hall a few weeks ago. She said Hi back before she realized it was me. Then her face turned to stone and she rushed off. I dunno if that counts as an "enemy" or not.

I guess talking to her when I know she doesn't want to talk to me could be construed as being mean. So I pass 100%!

Thanks, Fly!!!

[SportsFan68]

I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that most women who like to hunt are lesbians.

Why don't you ask Sprots? I'm pretty sure you'll have more room in your thong afterwards.


t.

LOL, T!

All the women hunters I know are married to men hunters.

[It'sAllAboutMe]I think WB was just checking to see if I was still reading but not replying to his posts.[/It'sAllAboutMe]

[SportsFan68]

I know Joe as well.

He's usually got common sense and a strong work ethic, is loyal to his friends, mean to his enemies, salutes the flag, and thinks America is the best place on earth. Sure, he's a little rough around the edges, more at home in jeans than a suit. He cooks hamburgers rather than ordering cordon bleu.

He hunts, fishes, and appreciates nature. I may not always agree with him on all issues, but he's generally a good guy.

I can vote for that.

And will.

Now that I know Fly woulda voted for me, I'm pleased it puts us shoulder to shoulder on the Presidency also.

I searched Sen. McCain's website from top to bottom and the only thing I could find about the environment was climate change. I did find stuff about opposing a ban on private ownership of fully automatic assault rifles which, as a good hunter, I take the opposite stance on, since the only thing such assault weapons are good for, and what they're made for, is to kill people.

Here is the blurb which will accompany a photo of me, my latest turkey (no not SteelersFan), and MissCaseyGirl in our Vote for Obama ad:

I'm a Colorado hunter and environmentalist who's voting for Obama-Biden because their administration will be committed to preserving our land, protecting our national parks and forests, conserving new lands, and preserving our right to hunt. Barack Obama supports the Roadless Area Conservation Rule, which keeps over 58 million acres of national forests pristine and assures protection of wildlife habitat. As president, he and Joe Biden will repair the damage done to our national parks by inadequate funding and emphasize the protection and restoration of our National Forests. For someone who's loved fishing, hunting, and hiking in the Colorado outdoors her whole life, and who wants future generations to have those same opportunities, Obama-Biden is the clear choice.

I stole most of it directly off the Obama for America website. I added emphasis to those items I thought Fly would be in particular agreement on.

Thanks, Fly!

[franktangredi]

I'll admit it, I did not understand your post.

Pray tell, enlighten me.

And a quick quiz: Did anyone else 'get it?'

I got it, because it keyed off the Herbert Hoover quote that I had posted. I think the point he was making was the same as Hoover: that ELITE is considered a compliment when applied to fighting forces, but somehow has become a dirty word when applied to politicians.

I thought the last part, about being taken prisoner, was a bit of a gratuitous dig and detracted from the point he was making.

[BigDrawMan]

Pick your emotional reaction and go for it.

I'll admit it, I did not understand your post.

Pray tell, enlighten me.

And a quick quiz: Did anyone else 'get it?'


yes

it was funny



You know us Six Packs, always a bit slow on the uptake. Which is why we don't run for office. The professional politicians have been doing so well for so long...

oy

[SportsFan68]

Pick your emotional reaction and go for it.

I'll admit it, I did not understand your post.

Pray tell, enlighten me.

And a quick quiz: Did anyone else 'get it?'


yes

it was funny



You know us Six Packs, always a bit slow on the uptake. Which is why we don't run for office. The professional politicians have been doing so well for so long...

oy

Hey! No picking on Fly! He woulda voted for me.

As would you, I am sure.

[Flybrick]

I'll admit it, I did not understand your post.

Pray tell, enlighten me.

And a quick quiz: Did anyone else 'get it?'

I got it, because it keyed off the Herbert Hoover quote that I had posted. I think the point he was making was the same as Hoover: that ELITE is considered a compliment when applied to fighting forces, but somehow has become a dirty word when applied to politicians.

I thought the last part, about being taken prisoner, was a bit of a gratuitous dig and detracted from the point he was making.

Frank,

If he was referencing your post, then I still don't get it. Besides his misuse of the "SEAL" terminology, his post didn't make sense in that context. It was a rambling, nonsensical diatribe against something, I just couldn't figure out what. The officer thing just was loony.

So I'm still hoping ne will deign to illuminate me on his intellectual home run so that I might learn from his wit.

I also will respectfully differ with you and Mr. Hoover. What are the qualifications of an elite politician and how do they get that way? As our political history in that regards is not the best, particularly in the last 40 years, I'm very curious as to why you would view a 'professional' pol as more qualified than Joe Six Pack.

Is it education level? Is it holding a law degree?

I would argue that neither of those are unique or really germane to governing, but would like to read your thoughts.

As my example of a good Joe Six Pack politician, I refer you to Democrat (gasp!) Harry Truman.

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sprots,

Sorry, my string of 'not getting it continues.' Why the Obama references for hunting/fishing? I am not voting for that ticket based on much more than that one issue (I also would love to see Obama pull a Kerry-like hunting pose. That would make a great SNL skit! Oh, but they wouldn't dare do that, only on the woman from Alaska who actually does hunt. But I digress.)

Why would you ban individual ownership of an automatic weapon? As an example, my departed dad, upon getting us kids out of the house, finally had the disposable income to increase his firearm collection. Among them were a Thompson, an M-14, and a MAC-10 (piece of crap, that it is). The regulations covering ownership were/are very burdensome and the ATF was pretty strict in enforcing/checking.

I regret being the youngest and receiving the MAC-10 in my inheritance. I sold it because it wasn't worth the above ATF hassle. If I'd have gotten the Thompson or M-14, it would have (stupid older brothers). My point of this is why shouldn't he be allowed to legally own them? He never used them for illegal purposes, so why should the government have the authority to do away with them? (No, I don't plan to get into a 2d Amendment argument, just putting it out there. I'm fine if you disagree. Simply don't buy one, but please don't infringe upon my right to do so.)

edited to add: Re-reading the excerpt from Obama's site, it certainly seems at odds with the near-visceral contempt that he in his "bitter, God, guns" remark and many bored members here hold good ol' Joe.

I wonder why that is?

[earendel]

I also will respectfully differ with you and Mr. Hoover. What are the qualifications of an elite politician and how do they get that way? As our political history in that regards is not the best, particularly in the last 40 years, I'm very curious as to why you would view a 'professional' pol as more qualified than Joe Six Pack.

Is it education level? Is it holding a law degree?

I would argue that neither of those are unique or really germane to governing, but would like to read your thoughts.

As my example of a good Joe Six Pack politician, I refer you to Democrat (gasp!) Harry Truman.

I realize I'm coming to this party late, but it seems to me that there needs to be a distinction drawn between an "elite" politician and a "professional" politician. In the former category would be those individuals who have proven themselves to be "a cut above" when it comes to matters of politics. I would put your "Joe Six-Pack" Harry Truman in that category, along with the "elite" FDR.

I also think that "elite" has been seriously overused, as has "millionaire" - here in Kentucky we get ads for southern Indiana and one of the candidates for the House is accusing the other of being a "millionaire". Well, duh! I suspect that the other candidate is a millionaire, too - it's almost a prerequisite for running for public office these days.

Why would you ban individual ownership of an automatic weapon? As an example, my departed dad, upon getting us kids out of the house, finally had the disposable income to increase his firearm collection. Among them were a Thompson, an M-14, and a MAC-10 (piece of crap, that it is). The regulations covering ownership were/are very burdensome and the ATF was pretty strict in enforcing/checking.

Just out of curiosity, are there any firearms the ownership of which you would ban?

[Flybrick]

Just out of curiosity, are there any firearms the ownership of which you would ban?

Nukes, chem/bio.

Yes, I see and understand your point. But at what point does the government's obligation to protect the citizenry as a whole intersect with my rights as a citizen?

There's the rub and one that will never be solved unless all weapons are banned.

I will do my best to not let that happen.

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It is interesting the connotation of having ''made it' in recent elections.

The indignation over McCain not knowing how many houses he owns, Obama trading in his Chrysler 300C for a (gag) Prius, etc., etc.

Don't we all want to become wealthy? Then why the stigma associated with those that make it?

What's the premise of this bored again?

Curious times.

[earendel]

Just out of curiosity, are there any firearms the ownership of which you would ban?

Nukes, chem/bio.

Yes, I see and understand your point. But at what point does the government's obligation to protect the citizenry as a whole intersect with my rights as a citizen?

There's the rub and one that will never be solved unless all weapons are banned.

I will do my best to not let that happen.

I have no objection to the private ownership of firearms, and I have some sympathy with those who say that the ones that are most objectionable are the ones that would be most needed in the event of a need for an armed insurrection against an oppressive government. Frankly I don't know what the answer is with respect to firearms.

It is interesting the connotation of having ''made it in recent elections.'

The indignation over McCain not knowing how many houses he owns, Obama trading in his Chrysler 300C for a (gag) Prius, etc., etc.

Hey, there's nothing wrong with a Prius!