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traininvain · #26 Post by **traininvain** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:19 pm

danielh41 wrote:
gsabc wrote:
danielh41 wrote:I thought she connected well with the TV audience and her "Dog gone it"s were endearing.
These are not characteristics I place high on my "must have" list for political candidates. If they were, I'd nominate Ty Pennington.
No, but those characteristics were also displayed in the 1980 debates. The man who displayed them only became the greatest President of the 20th century.

Hmm, I like Jimmy Carter, but he was just OK as a President.

Seriously, I am always perplexed as to why anyone thinks Reagan was anything more than an average President.
He wouldn't even crack my top five (Nixon would rate higher).

peacock2121 · #27 Post by **peacock2121** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:52 am

I thought Palin did just fine.

She was too folksy for me. She had too little substance in her responses for me and I am not a fan of not answering the question asked and she did just fine.

She did what I think she was added to the ticket to do. She did what she needed to do to connect to the people she needed to connect to.

I loved the "Can I call you Joe" beginning.

I also respected that Joe never called her Sarah and always called her governor. Interesting that he said John and Barack and never Sarah.

Sarah's "Say it ain't so Joe" was funny.

The line about a lame joke was laughable.

I liked how Joe finally took on the 'maverick' crap.

For the first time, Joe was real to me. Sarah has always been real.

If I were to base my scorecard on expectations, Sarah won by a mile or two.

ne1410s · #28 Post by **ne1410s** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 1:12 pm

pea:

I loved the "Can I call you Joe" beginning.

This was done solely so she could say "Say it ain't so, Joe" later on.

I know these things.

peacock2121 · #29 Post by **peacock2121** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 1:25 pm

ne1410s wrote:pea:
I loved the "Can I call you Joe" beginning.
This was done solely so she could say "Say it ain't so, Joe" later on.

I know these things.

It was all staged - that is one of the reasons I loved it.

tricky little lady she is.

Appa23 · #30 Post by **Appa23** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:18 pm

ne1410s wrote:pea:
I loved the "Can I call you Joe" beginning.
This was done solely so she could say "Say it ain't so, Joe" later on.

I know these things.

No, it was done to bring back up that Obama called Senator McCain "John" repeatedly, which was considered by many viewers to be rude, as he had not asked.

#31 Post by **Bob78164** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:01 pm

Appa23 wrote:
ne1410s wrote:pea:
I loved the "Can I call you Joe" beginning.
This was done solely so she could say "Say it ain't so, Joe" later on.

I know these things.
No, it was done to bring back up that Obama called Senator McCain "John" repeatedly, which was considered by many viewers to be rude, as he had not asked.

That's funny. No one seemed to think it was rude when he addressed Senator Clinton as Hillary.

They're peers -- each is a United States Senator. It's appropriate for them to address each other by their first names. --Bob

danielh41 · #32 Post by **danielh41** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:40 am

Bob78164 wrote:
danielh41 wrote:
gsabc wrote: These are not characteristics I place high on my "must have" list for political candidates. If they were, I'd nominate Ty Pennington.
No, but those characteristics were also displayed in the 1980 debates. The man who displayed them only became the greatest President of the 20th century.
You need to check your history books. FDR died in 1945, and Teddy Roosevelt, who left office in 1909, wasn't a candidate in 1980. --Bob

Here's in an interesting article that describes how historic the Reagan presidency was, and it uses real numbers to illustrate this: http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=14015