Some people have no sense of irony

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NellyLunatic1980 · #1 Post by **NellyLunatic1980** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:30 pm

This person is a real Emmy Award winner. She made me laugh. Seriously.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... se-mccain/

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Lynn Forester de Rothschild, a prominent Hillary Clinton supporter and member of the Democratic National Committee’s Platform Committee, will endorse John McCain for president on Wednesday, her spokesman tells CNN.

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In an interview with CNN this summer, Forester did not hide her distaste for eventual Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama.

“This is a hard decision for me personally because frankly I don't like him,” she said of Obama in an interview with CNN’s Joe Johns. “I feel like he is an elitist. I feel like he has not given me reason to trust him.”

Forester is the CEO of EL Rothschild, a holding company with businesses around the world. She is married to international banker Sir Evelyn de Rothschild. Forester is a member of the DNC’s Democrats Abroad chapter and splits her time living in London and New York.

Nice. A woman who splits her time between London and New York and is married to an international bank CEO who is addressed as "Sir" will support John McCain, a man who owns anywhere between 7-12 houses (depending on which source you believe) and is married to a beer heiress worth $200+ million, because she claims that Barack Obama is an elitist. I don't believe that anybody with a last name like "de Rothschild" is in any position to accuse other people of being elitist. Then again, the Rothschilds are well-known for being right-wing zealots (I thought that was the word that I typed the first time, but I typed Zionists--oopsie!) who always tend to support the most right-wing Democrats in primaries then vote Republican in November. How Lady de Rothschild became a high-ranking member of the DNC is beyond me.

This is not the first time that Lady de Rothschild has made comments like this. A couple of weeks ago, she was interviewed by "Washington Independent", where she first expressed her bitterness toward Obama:

http://www.washingtonindependent.com/29 ... n-november

Both of these interviews are just her endless blathering about how she doesn't like Obama, she thinks that his ego is too big, she thinks that he's not deferential enough, she doesn't think that he connects with ordinary people, and the rest.

She actually believes that Obama "does not connect well to ordinary people"? Surely, a supposed Democrat cannot possibly be that willfully ignorant. Oh wait, I forgot. Right-wing zealot (once again, thought zealot, but subconsciously typed Zionist--double oopsie).

Back in August 2007, Obama held a campaign rally in Lexington, KY. I was there, and I have the online pictures to prove it. Here was who I met at the rally: men, women, old people, middle-aged people, young people, white people, Black people, Latino-Americans, Asian-Americans, blue-collar workers, white-collar workers, unemployed people, poor people, middle-class people, rich people, gay people, married people, and parents with their children. Every single demographic in the U.S. represented amongst 5,000 people at an Obama rally in Kentucky.

Kentucky.

Deep red state.

We're not representative of ordinary people?

And what about the huge crowds that Obama has attracted in every other state--red, blue, and purple--and the phenomenally broad donor base that he has amassed, all of which have the same diversity of demographics?

They're not representative of ordinary people?

The only demographic that is never well represented at an Obama rally is the white supremacist demographic--though I'm sure that one or two have attended just for the curiosity factor.

Maybe the word "ordinary" is subjective. In Lady de Rothschild's mind, maybe "ordinary people" means people like her... in which case, she would be somewhat correct that Obama doesn't connect well with "ordinary people".

Bottom line: She is outraged that Obama didn't know his place. At the very least, she's engaged in post hoc rationalization. At the worst, her comments are a display of thinly-veiled racism.

Now before any of you start sending me letters about how I'm automatically assuming that anybody who doesn't support Obama is a racist, I'm telling you right now that not everybody who doesn't support Obama is a racist. I'm telling you that Lady de Rothschild is a certifiable racist. Presumption of innocence doesn't work here. When somebody accuses Sen. Obama of something with no evidence whatsoever (and most of the evidence actually say Sen. McCain is even worse) and injects a reference to what they "feel" about him, then they are a racist until proven otherwise.

So you can have her, Sen. McCain! Have fun!

(Edited to add Nudity®)

MarleysGh0st · #2 Post by **MarleysGh0st** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:39 pm

There's nothing more gauche than a nouveau elitist!

frogman042 · #3 Post by **frogman042** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:54 pm

First lipstick on a pig, now this.

Why can't an intellegent woman speak in public without someone making some snide allusion to that fact that she should just shut up and go back home to do her ironing. Really - how sexist can you be.

Sure, you going to say that 'irony' has no connection to 'ironing' and that I'm just being thin-skinned. But that is why it is so insidious - you knew people would make that connection and you had you 'out' already planned - after you had already poisoned the well.

Next thing you going to claim is that if a female CFO is charged with accounting malfesence - you'll probably call it 'Cooking the books' - like you don't think we wont get what you are really saying.

Hurumph!

---Jay

Appa23 · #4 Post by **Appa23** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:12 pm

Thanks for saving me some time, Nelly.

Normally, I would have to wade through two hours of illogical, raving, Obama-worshiping blather on MSDNC from Keith "I wanna carry Obama's Seed" Olbermann and Rachel "Ditto for Michelle's Seed" Maddow, but you mananged to distill it all into your one post.

Bravo!

BigDrawMan · #5 Post by **BigDrawMan** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:14 pm

I heard Rush say the same thing.
He was broadcasting from his home studio in Palm Beach at the time.

Maybe they mean "elitist" in the uppity sense of the word.

Thousandaire · #6 Post by **Thousandaire** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:26 pm

NellyLunatic1980 wrote: Now before any of you start sending me letters about how I'm automatically assuming that anybody who doesn't support Obama is a racist, I'm telling you right now that not everybody who doesn't support Obama is a racist.

How generous of you.

You were doing fine until you accused her of being a racist. Democrats are the ones who are making race an issue, and that is why they are losing. Most people don't like being told they are racists when they are not.

ulysses5019 · #7 Post by **ulysses5019** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:28 pm

That would be Alanis Morissette.

silverscreenselect · #8 Post by **silverscreenselect** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:46 pm

NellyLunatic1980 wrote: Now before any of you start sending me letters about how I'm automatically assuming that anybody who doesn't support Obama is a racist, I'm telling you right now that not everybody who doesn't support Obama is a racist. I'm telling you that Lady de Rothschild is a certifiable racist. Presumption of innocence doesn't work here. When somebody accuses Sen. Obama of something with no evidence whatsoever (and most of the evidence actually say Sen. McCain is even worse) and injects a reference to what they "feel" about him, then they are a racist until proven otherwise.

What she has "accused" him of is not giving her a reason to trust him. I don't think that it's asking too much of a candidate for the most powerful position in the world to give people a reason to trust them.

In marketing, it's up to the company selling a product to convince people to buy it. If they fail to do so, it's their fault, not the customers. Calling customers stupid for not buying your product won't make it successful.

Being elitist has relatively little to do with net worth and much to do with attitude and perception. Warren Buffett is one of the most down-to-earth guys there is. On the other hand, there a lot of graduate liberal arts students and aspiring poets, writers, and film makers out there without two nickels to rub together who think they're better than the rest of us and that some day the rest of us will come to our senses and realize it.

Obama has given lots of people ample reason not to trust or believe in him. However, if it makes you feel any better, you're about to have four more years in which to bemoan just how racist our society and millions of your fellow Democrats (not to mention all those nasty Republicans) are.

silverscreenselect · #9 Post by **silverscreenselect** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:48 pm

NellyLunatic1980 wrote: So you can have her, Sen. McCain! Have fun!

McCain will have lots of fun riding the votes of Rothchild, me and millions of other racists all the way to the White House.

15QuestionsAway · #10 Post by **15QuestionsAway** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:02 pm

The irony is so thick you can cut it with a knife. All good stuff, Nelly, with one exception.

Throwing around "Zionist" as some kind of insult is damn close to being racist. I'm Jewish, so those are my peeps even if I don't always agree with everything the Israelis do. The Rothschild family have been noted donors to Jewish causes for centuries.

I've lived in Western Europe for several years, and the extremely hard left (by whom I mean folks like the Socialist Workers Party) as well as other anti-Semites throw around "Zionist" as a substitution for "Jewish". So I'm a bit sensitive to the dog whistle being blown here.

Bob Juch · #11 Post by **Bob Juch** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:10 pm

15QuestionsAway wrote:The irony is so thick you can cut it with a knife. All good stuff, Nelly, with one exception.

Throwing around "Zionist" as some kind of insult is damn close to being racist. I'm Jewish, so those are my peeps even if I don't always agree with everything the Israelis do. The Rothschild family have been noted donors to Jewish causes for centuries.

I've lived in Western Europe for several years, and the extremely hard left (by whom I mean folks like the Socialist Workers Party) as well as other anti-Semites throw around "Zionist" as a substitution for "Jewish". So I'm a bit sensitive to the dog whistle being blown here.

Ah, but according to the U.N. Zionism is racism.

silverscreenselect · #12 Post by **silverscreenselect** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:13 pm

January 31, 2007, "racist" Joe Biden about Obama:

“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” he said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”

September 15, 2008. nonracist, non-elitist Joe Biden about Obama:

The Republican party and some of the blogs and others on the far right, are trying very hard to paint a picture of this man, they’re trying the best as they can to mischaracterize who he is and what he stands for.
All this stuff about how different Barack Obama is, they’re not just used to somebody really smart. They’re just not used to somebody who’s really well educated. They just don’t know quite how to handle it. Cause if he’s as smart as Barack is he must not be from my neighborhood.

September 16, 2008, nonracist Kathleen Sebelius:

“Have any of you noticed that Barack Obama is part African-American?” Sebelius asked in response to a question about why the election is so close. “That may be a factor. All the code language, all that doesn’t show up in the polls. And that may be a factor for some people.”

You remember, "when the going get's tough, the tough get going." With Obama it's "when the going get's tough, it's time to claim racism."

15QuestionsAway · #13 Post by **15QuestionsAway** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:25 pm

Bob Juch wrote:Ah, but according to the U.N. Zionism is racism.

So then Nelly's using UN-approved racism?

I'm so confused. Ask me questions about acute triangles instead.

BTW, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think ultimately the UN did rescind that declaration.

flockofseagulls104 · #14 Post by **flockofseagulls104** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:56 pm

Surely, a supposed Democrat cannot possibly be that willfully ignorant.

That made me laugh out loud. To support all the things the democrat party supposedly stands for, it is a requirement to be ignorant.

IMHOOC.

frogman042 · #15 Post by **frogman042** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:07 pm

Since it was asked for....

An obtuse, right and acute triangle walk into a bar....

The bartender says, "Beers today are 1 dollar plus tax."

The obtuse triangle says - "Why did you tell me that - I'm not sure what you are getting at?"

The right triangle says - "I ain't paying no stinking taxes to support some socialist welfare state - here is a buck and give me a beer!"

The acute triangle says nothing, hoping that one of the other two triangles will buy it a drink!

---Jay

PlacentiaSoccerMom · #16 Post by **PlacentiaSoccerMom** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:31 pm

MarleysGh0st wrote:There's nothing more gauche than a nouveau elitist!

MarleysGh0st · #17 Post by **MarleysGh0st** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:39 pm

PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:
MarleysGh0st wrote:There's nothing more gauche than a nouveau elitist!

I'm glad someone enjoyed the joke. I feel dirty for posting in this political thread without taking umbrage at one thing or another.

But christie went to that anniversary football game without leaving us any snacks in the Moratorium Lounge!

silvercamaro · #18 Post by **silvercamaro** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:43 pm

MarleysGh0st wrote:
I'm glad someone enjoyed the joke. I feel dirty for posting in this political thread without taking umbrage at one thing or another.

There wasn't any umbrage left to take, because some folks have used up more than their fair share.

I cannot provide the repast that Christie would have served, but I've got some Bailey's Irish Cream, if you'd like an Irish coffee to keep you awake and mellow.

PlacentiaSoccerMom · #19 Post by **PlacentiaSoccerMom** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:48 pm

MarleysGh0st wrote:
PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:
MarleysGh0st wrote:There's nothing more gauche than a nouveau elitist!

I'm glad someone enjoyed the joke. I feel dirty for posting in this political thread without taking umbrage at one thing or another.

But christie went to that anniversary football game without leaving us any snacks in the Moratorium Lounge!

The heading of the thread is deceptive, so you shouldn't feel dirty. I mean, I clicked on the thread thinking they somebody was going to be mocked. I didn't realize it would politically related.

MarleysGh0st · #20 Post by **MarleysGh0st** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:51 pm

silvercamaro wrote: I cannot provide the repast that Christie would have served, but I've got some Bailey's Irish Cream, if you'd like an Irish coffee to keep you awake and mellow.

I shouldn't stay up late, tonight. Could you make that a decaf Irish coffee?

elwoodblues · #21 Post by **elwoodblues** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:13 pm

I like my women the way I like my Irish coffee:

Hot, full of alcohol and covered with whipped cream.

PlacentiaSoccerMom · #22 Post by **PlacentiaSoccerMom** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:30 pm

elwoodblues wrote:I like my women the way I like my Irish coffee:

Hot, full of alcohol and covered with whipped cream.

That's nasty.

silvercamaro · #23 Post by **silvercamaro** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:34 pm

MarleysGh0st wrote:
silvercamaro wrote: I cannot provide the repast that Christie would have served, but I've got some Bailey's Irish Cream, if you'd like an Irish coffee to keep you awake and mellow.

I shouldn't stay up late, tonight. Could you make that a decaf Irish coffee?

I can make it if you've got the decaf.

I don't buy the pretend stuff.

christie1111 · #24 Post by **christie1111** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:52 pm

I am not responding to this since I don't respond to political threads.

Make mine full caffiene and Irish whiskey please!

Tocqueville3 · #25 Post by **Tocqueville3** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:01 pm

15QuestionsAway wrote:The irony is so thick you can cut it with a knife. All good stuff, Nelly, with one exception.

Throwing around "Zionist" as some kind of insult is damn close to being racist. I'm Jewish, so those are my peeps even if I don't always agree with everything the Israelis do. The Rothschild family have been noted donors to Jewish causes for centuries.

I've lived in Western Europe for several years, and the extremely hard left (by whom I mean folks like the Socialist Workers Party) as well as other anti-Semites throw around "Zionist" as a substitution for "Jewish". So I'm a bit sensitive to the dog whistle being blown here.

Agreed.

I am not a Jew but half of my family is Jewish. My Dad is Jewish and so is all of his family.

I am certainly not going to be as nice as 15QA with this post. Nelly, your use of the term Zionist is pure hate. You are nothing but an anti-Semite. You have the nerve to come on this board and call someone you don't know from Adam a racist and them start spewing anti-Semitic crap. You should be ashamed but you are not. You run around hurling political insults at people as if you were in some grandiose position to do so.

You're young and you probably think that if you post stuff like this you will earn respect and you will be taken seriously by most of us on the bored. Most of us think you are a crude, immature brat and your post does nothing but reinforce that.

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