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#26 Post by mrkelley23 » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:53 am

My unintentional laugh for the day: when I first glanced at Skoop's post, I thought it said "undeserved product." When you go back and read it, especially juxtaposed with Pea's response, it makes it even funnier.

To me, at least.
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#27 Post by SportsFan68 » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:12 pm

The local youth ministry comes around in person once a year or so and passes out New Testaments. I always take one. They seem surprised.
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#28 Post by mrkelley23 » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:16 pm

SportsFan68 wrote:The local youth ministry comes around in person once a year or so and passes out New Testaments. I always take one. They seem surprised.
Why, are you wearing your pentacles and carrying a wand?

Or do they have Pa-dar?

Somebody stop me!!

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#29 Post by peacock2121 » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:21 pm

mrkelley23 wrote:My unintentional laugh for the day: when I first glanced at Skoop's post, I thought it said "undeserved product." When you go back and read it, especially juxtaposed with Pea's response, it makes it even funnier.

To me, at least.
I read that the first time thorough as well. It was so not skoop, that I read it again.

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#30 Post by peacock2121 » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:22 pm

SportsFan68 wrote:The local youth ministry comes around in person once a year or so and passes out New Testaments. I always take one. They seem surprised.
I love that they do that. That is their business and this action is right in line with what they are committed to.

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#31 Post by SportsFan68 » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:23 pm

mrkelley23 wrote:
SportsFan68 wrote:The local youth ministry comes around in person once a year or so and passes out New Testaments. I always take one. They seem surprised.
Why, are you wearing your pentacles and carrying a wand?

Or do they have Pa-dar?

Somebody stop me!!

:roll:
LOL!

No, it's because most people don't take 'em.

SteelersFan is the one who chased away the Mormon missionaries by saying "Go away! I'm a Druid!"

No pentacles though.
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#32 Post by SportsFan68 » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:24 pm

peacock2121 wrote:
SportsFan68 wrote:The local youth ministry comes around in person once a year or so and passes out New Testaments. I always take one. They seem surprised.
I love that they do that. That is their business and this action is right in line with what they are committed to.
Me too, that's why I take them.

Counting the new New Testaments, I now have more Bibles in the house than dictionaries.
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#33 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:59 pm

peacock2121 wrote:
BigDrawMan wrote:
peacock2121 wrote: I didn't order a bible. I ordered a newspaper.

I didn't ask for one to come into my home. I am now stuck with what to do with it - I now have a problem. I would never throw away a bible, like I would throw away a catalogue.

Newspapers are not in the spreading the word of the lord business. They are newspapers.

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they also send promotiomal items like soap and razors and coffee.

The bible promotes a way of living(though many christian types i know skip the inconvenient parts).

the paper is a biness.They got paid to distribute the bible.
the paper is in the news business.

if it wants to be in the distribution for hire business they get fired by me.
They've been in the distribution (of advertising) for decades.

Seriously, there's something about the fact that it was a bible that has set you off.
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#34 Post by peacock2121 » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:26 pm

TheCalvinator24 wrote:
peacock2121 wrote:
BigDrawMan wrote:
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they also send promotiomal items like soap and razors and coffee.

The bible promotes a way of living(though many christian types i know skip the inconvenient parts).

the paper is a biness.They got paid to distribute the bible.
the paper is in the news business.

if it wants to be in the distribution for hire business they get fired by me.
They've been in the distribution (of advertising) for decades.

Seriously, there's something about the fact that it was a bible that has set you off.
I said pretty much that - It is something that I do not want and will not throw away. They are giving me a problem just because I ordered a newspaper.

Did you read the entire thread before responding to me?

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#35 Post by tlynn78 » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:49 pm

I kinda get what Peaby's saying, mostly because I feel that way about ANY book. I can't toss out a book. Not even a trashy bodice ripper. Can't make myself do it. So about every six months or so, my mom drops off a box of books at my house for me to 'enjoy.' Most of them, I'd given her to read and she was supposed to pass them on. So I bring them to work and leave them in the break room. Only people who WANT to deal with them take them, and nobody is 'stuck' with a book they don't want.
SteelersFan is the one who chased away the Mormon missionaries by saying "Go away! I'm a Druid

LOL - one good thing about hubby's issues, they don't come around our house anymore, either. He wouldn's quit hitting on the young ladies.


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#36 Post by Beebs52 » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:55 pm

tlynn78 wrote:I kinda get what Peaby's saying, mostly because I feel that way about ANY book. I can't toss out a book. Not even a trashy bodice ripper. Can't make myself do it. So about every six months or so, my mom drops off a box of books at my house for me to 'enjoy.' Most of them, I'd given her to read and she was supposed to pass them on. So I bring them to work and leave them in the break room. Only people who WANT to deal with them take them, and nobody is 'stuck' with a book they don't want.
SteelersFan is the one who chased away the Mormon missionaries by saying "Go away! I'm a Druid

LOL - one good thing about hubby's issues, they don't come around our house anymore, either. He wouldn's quit hitting on the young ladies.


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I have to agree on the whole book thingie--it's almost blasphemous to toss an actual book. However, I have tossed into the actual trash maybe four books in my lifetime, all for being horrendously poorly written. Not because of the message or slant, but because they sucked themselves down the drain in basics like not having coherent sentences (oh shut up) or lots of exclamation points. One was Exit to Eden, or something like that, that Rosie O'Donnell made a movie out of. It was astoundingly awful. Another was a local writer's attempt at breaking into the bigtime about peeps from Texas with big hair and lots of marriages and spending money and etc. A very, extremely, pathetically painful poorman's (insert any successful chick lit book here). I lobbed it carefully and made it in one shot.
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#37 Post by secondchance » Sun Sep 07, 2008 4:22 pm

Lobbing them into a recycling bin would alleviate most of the guilt.

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#38 Post by christie1111 » Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:20 pm

I am with Pea on this one.

Religious materials should not be ditributed through the newspaper like that.

It reminds me a bit of when a former neighbor came to visit my new home. She is a very observant catholic. She brought me a large cross (luckily not a crucifix) because she noticed I did not have one displayed in the old house.

That should have been a hint.

I don't think it is polite to refuse a gift given to you, but then I was stuck with a cross I would not normally display in my home. But stuffing it in a drawer seemed disrespectful. And it isn't someting you can toss in a trash bin.

I discussed it with my Mom who is quite active in her church. So I sent it to her and she gave it as a gift to the church. They could then give it as a communion gift, etc.

Taking it back to the newpaper office seems a good choice.
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#39 Post by silvercamaro » Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:28 pm

My suggestion would be to drop it into the next bag of "clothing and household goods" that gets solicited periodically by charitable organizations. Since such give-away bibles are usually small enough to fit into a pocket, I can believe that there is someone out there in the midst of hard times, whether homeless or living in a shelter, who would love to have it and find comfort from it.

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#40 Post by Bob Juch » Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:26 pm

When I worked in Philadelphia, I noticed that my boss had a bookshelf on his office wall with eight bibles on it. He let me know I could borrow one anytime. :roll:
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#41 Post by DevilKitty100 » Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:31 pm

Bob Juch wrote:When I worked in Philadelphia, I noticed that my boss had a bookshelf on his office wall with eight bibles on it. He let me know I could borrow one anytime. :roll:
So I'm guessing you declined?

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#42 Post by tlynn78 » Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:13 pm

So I'm guessing you declined?
He doesn't need to read it, his great, great, great, great, great uncle translated it.

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#43 Post by Bob Juch » Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:20 pm

DevilKitty100 wrote:
Bob Juch wrote:When I worked in Philadelphia, I noticed that my boss had a bookshelf on his office wall with eight bibles on it. He let me know I could borrow one anytime. :roll:
So I'm guessing you declined?
Of course, I have my own.
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#44 Post by Bob Juch » Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:21 pm

tlynn78 wrote:
So I'm guessing you declined?
He doesn't need to read it, his great, great, great, great, great uncle translated it.

:lol:
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Actually, my 60th great-grandfather wrote it!
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#45 Post by Ritterskoop » Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:13 am

Just read a letter from our publisher that we are delivering a DVD in tomorrow's paper. It's a political documentary about radical Islamic groups.

They will have to do a short story to explain it, as it is paid advertising. There are lines we do not cross - if it were pornographic we would not accept such advertising. But since free speech is more important than protecting readers (who can simply throw it away if they don't want to view it), I think this is a good enough compromise.

Next up: condoms. I'm going to ask someone, for real.
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#46 Post by peacock2121 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:37 am

Ritterskoop wrote:Just read a letter from our publisher that we are delivering a DVD in tomorrow's paper. It's a political documentary about radical Islamic groups.

They will have to do a short story to explain it, as it is paid advertising. There are lines we do not cross - if it were pornographic we would not accept such advertising. But since free speech is more important than protecting readers (who can simply throw it away if they don't want to view it), I think this is a good enough compromise.

Next up: condoms. I'm going to ask someone, for real.
I look forward to your report about the condoms.

Who is advertising what with the DVD?

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#47 Post by Ritterskoop » Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:15 am

peacock2121 wrote:
Ritterskoop wrote:Just read a letter from our publisher that we are delivering a DVD in tomorrow's paper. It's a political documentary about radical Islamic groups.

They will have to do a short story to explain it, as it is paid advertising. There are lines we do not cross - if it were pornographic we would not accept such advertising. But since free speech is more important than protecting readers (who can simply throw it away if they don't want to view it), I think this is a good enough compromise.

Next up: condoms. I'm going to ask someone, for real.
I look forward to your report about the condoms.

Who is advertising what with the DVD?
Don't know. I'll see what's printed on the DVD. Might even watch it, unless I can tell right away it is someone saying they are better than someone else.
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#48 Post by peacock2121 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:19 am

Ritterskoop wrote:
peacock2121 wrote:
Ritterskoop wrote:Just read a letter from our publisher that we are delivering a DVD in tomorrow's paper. It's a political documentary about radical Islamic groups.

They will have to do a short story to explain it, as it is paid advertising. There are lines we do not cross - if it were pornographic we would not accept such advertising. But since free speech is more important than protecting readers (who can simply throw it away if they don't want to view it), I think this is a good enough compromise.

Next up: condoms. I'm going to ask someone, for real.
I look forward to your report about the condoms.

Who is advertising what with the DVD?
Don't know. I'll see what's printed on the DVD. Might even watch it, unless I can tell right away it is someone saying they are better than someone else.
I would be interested.

My knee jerk reation is someone is advertising stereotyping and racism.

I pulled my knee back and asked.

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#49 Post by ulysses5019 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:18 pm

peacock2121 wrote:
Ritterskoop wrote:
peacock2121 wrote: I look forward to your report about the condoms.

Who is advertising what with the DVD?
Don't know. I'll see what's printed on the DVD. Might even watch it, unless I can tell right away it is someone saying they are better than someone else.
I would be interested.

My knee jerk reation is someone is advertising stereotyping and racism.

I pulled my knee back and asked.
But my groin still hurts.
I believe in the usefulness of useless information.

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