RIP NatGeo
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RIP NatGeo
National Geographic is ceasing distribution of its magazine via newsstands; it will be available only to subscribers. They have also laid off their writing staff and most of the editorial staff - they will depend upon freelance writers for content.
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Re: RIP NatGeo
That's really too bad.
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Re: RIP NatGeo
Go woke, go broke
Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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Re: RIP NatGeo
What was "woke" about National Geographic?
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Re: RIP NatGeo
TMITSSS doesn't even know what "woke" means.
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Re: RIP NatGeo
Nobody does.Pastor Fireball wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 9:00 amTMITSSS doesn't even know what "woke" means.

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Re: RIP NatGeo
Flock gave it a shot in the LA Dodgers thread.
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If you seriously don't know what 'woke' means, you are seriously under-informed.
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Re: RIP NatGeo
Yes, and flock is.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 1:11 pmIf you seriously don't know what 'woke' means, you are seriously under-informed.
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Re: RIP NatGeo
Have you tried reading it over the last few years?
Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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Re: RIP NatGeo
Notice there's been no mention of who owns it?
Spoiler
Disney
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As a matter of fact I have. I have a copy that discusses the reconstruction/renovation of Notre Dame cathedral. Granted it's from February 2022, but the articles hardly seem "woke". There's a photo essay about a family's military service, an article about Julius Caesar's image, and articles about fish, a K2 climb, and the future of Sudan. None of them seem particularly "woke".themanintheseersuckersuit wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 4:33 pmHave you tried reading it over the last few years?
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Re: RIP NatGeo
Not every article will be "woke", but some are.earendel wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:40 amAs a matter of fact I have. I have a copy that discusses the reconstruction/renovation of Notre Dame cathedral. Granted it's from February 2022, but the articles hardly seem "woke". There's a photo essay about a family's military service, an article about Julius Caesar's image, and articles about fish, a K2 climb, and the future of Sudan. None of them seem particularly "woke".themanintheseersuckersuit wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 4:33 pmHave you tried reading it over the last few years?
Read the historic January 2017 Special Issue of National Geographic magazine on the shifting landscape of gender and download our discussion guide for teachers and parents
I didn't read, but I'll wager it's pretty "woke".
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Re: RIP NatGeo
No mention of Disney owning 73% of National Geographic?
Disney has become the king of wokeness if you haven't been paying attention. And they are losing money hand over fist as well.
Go Woke, Go Broke.
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And it won't stop until this wokeism fad runs its course and goes away or they find a way of eliminating all of us that think it's, well to be kind, absolute foolishness. I could use another word that many people describe it as, but I will not go there.
Disney has become the king of wokeness if you haven't been paying attention. And they are losing money hand over fist as well.
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Ask Target, Ask Bud Lite, Ask Fox News. Ask Bed Bath and Beyond.
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Re: RIP NatGeo
FYIflockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:52 amNo mention of Disney owning 73% of National Geographic?
Disney has become the king of wokeness if you haven't been paying attention. And they are losing money hand over fist as well.
Go Woke, Go Broke.
Ask Target, Ask Bud Lite, Ask Fox News. Ask Bed Bath and Beyond.
And it won't stop until this wokeism fad runs its course and goes away or they find a way of eliminating all of us that think it's, well to be kind, absolute foolishness. I could use another word that many people describe it as, but I will not go there.
Disney gross profit for the quarter ending March 31, 2023 was $7.199B, a 8.17% increase year-over-year.
Disney gross profit for the twelve months ending March 31, 2023 was $28.739B, a 11.01% increase year-over-year.
Disney annual gross profit for 2022 was $28.321B, a 27.07% increase from 2021.
Disney annual gross profit for 2021 was $22.287B, a 3.62% increase from 2020.
Disney annual gross profit for 2020 was $21.508B, a 21.92% decline from 2019."
Target gross profit for the quarter ending April 30, 2023 was $6.936B, a 3.38% increase year-over-year.
Target gross profit for the twelve months ending April 30, 2023 was $27.118B, a 10.41% decline year-over-year.
Target annual gross profit for 2023 was $26.891B, a 13.37% decline from 2022.
Target annual gross profit for 2022 was $31.042B, a 13.36% increase from 2021.
Target annual gross profit for 2021 was $27.384B, a 17.79% increase from 2020.
Anheuser-Busch gross profit for the quarter ending March 31, 2023 was $7.696B, a 6.21% increase year-over-year.
Anheuser-Busch gross profit for the twelve months ending March 31, 2023 was $31.931B, a 1.68% increase year-over-year.
Anheuser-Busch annual gross profit for 2022 was $31.481B, a 0.88% increase from 2021.
Anheuser-Busch annual gross profit for 2021 was $31.207B, a 14.53% increase from 2020.
Anheuser-Busch annual gross profit for 2020 was $27.247B, a 14.77% decline from 2019.
Fox gross profit for the quarter ending March 31, 2023 was $1.357B, a 5.11% increase year-over-year.
Fox gross profit for the twelve months ending March 31, 2023 was $5.288B, a 10.37% increase year-over-year.
Fox annual gross profit for 2022 was $4.857B, a 0.31% decline from 2021.
Fox annual gross profit for 2021 was $4.872B, a 8.36% increase from 2020.
Fox annual gross profit for 2020 was $4.496B, a 10.68% increase from 2019.
Bath & Body Works gross profit for the quarter ending April 30, 2023 was $0.596B, a 10.91% decline year-over-year.
Bath & Body Works gross profit for the twelve months ending April 30, 2023 was $3.182B, a 15.87% decline year-over-year.
Bath & Body Works annual gross profit for 2023 was $3.255B, a 15.56% decline from 2022.
Bath & Body Works annual gross profit for 2022 was $3.855B, a 24.52% increase from 2021.
Bath & Body Works annual gross profit for 2021 was $3.096B, a 29.7% increase from 2020.
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Re: RIP NatGeo
At the time of National Geographic's gender issue, its majority owner was Rupert Murdoch, not Disney. I see that Fox News is on the "woke" list too. It seems that every business to the left of MyPillow and Hobby Lobby has become "woke." Even NASCAR celebrated pride month.
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Re: RIP NatGeo
You would be correct. That issue almost caused me to stop my subscription (since 1983)-but I decided to hang on for awhile.BackInTex wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:58 amNot every article will be "woke", but some are.earendel wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:40 amAs a matter of fact I have. I have a copy that discusses the reconstruction/renovation of Notre Dame cathedral. Granted it's from February 2022, but the articles hardly seem "woke". There's a photo essay about a family's military service, an article about Julius Caesar's image, and articles about fish, a K2 climb, and the future of Sudan. None of them seem particularly "woke".themanintheseersuckersuit wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 4:33 pm
Have you tried reading it over the last few years?
Read the historic January 2017 Special Issue of National Geographic magazine on the shifting landscape of gender and download our discussion guide for teachers and parents
I didn't read, but I'll wager it's pretty "woke".
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https://wwd.com/business-news/media/wha ... 235140003/
As this article indicates, many print magazines have ceased operations since the pandemic began. Since this linked article, Parade Magazine (a fixture in Sunday newspapers for decades) and Ring Magazine (the monthly boxing magazine) are among those that have either gone out of business entirely or gone to digital only. The reasons are a combination of rising print costs, changing methods of readership, and fewer in-person impulse purchases. Other magazines have cut back on the number of printed issues a year. We get something called TV Weekly, which is a decent competitor to TV Guide (which went biweekly several years back). Earlier this year, TV Weekly went to biweekly issues (although the title didn't change). And you might ask Skoop what's happened to printed newspapers over the past few years as they emphasize the digital versions of their "papers."
Disney has been emphasizing National Geographic as part of its Disney Plus offering. It's a competitor to Discovery Plus, which has been merged into Max (the Warner service that used to be HBO Max). Sad to say, many more people would rather watch an hourlong documentary on African wildlife than read an article on the subject with a bunch of still pictures in a printed magazine.
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Re: RIP NatGeo
I was unaware of Disney's ownership. I thought their wildlife documentaries were in partnership with NatGeo.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:52 amNo mention of Disney owning 73% of National Geographic?
Fox News is woke?flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:52 amGo Woke, Go Broke.
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Re: RIP NatGeo
Fox has lost a good portion of their audience since they fired Tucker. Look it up, ear. Their ownership has taken a left turn, and it is not unnoticed by their erstwhile loyal viewers, who have left it in droves. They censor what their on-air people can talk about.earendel wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 8:57 amI was unaware of Disney's ownership. I thought their wildlife documentaries were in partnership with NatGeo.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:52 amNo mention of Disney owning 73% of National Geographic?
Fox News is woke?flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:52 amGo Woke, Go Broke.
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I am not one of those that have left recently, since I ditched cable a few years ago. I can't even watch Hannity even if I wanted to.
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Re: RIP NatGeo
Gee, I wonder where all those people have gone? Oh, wait....flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 3:24 pmGo Woke, Go Broke.
Fox has lost a good portion of their audience since they fired Tucker. Look it up, ear. Their ownership has taken a left turn, and it is not unnoticed by their erstwhile loyal viewers, who have left it in droves. They censor what their on-air people can talk about.
I am not one of those that have left recently, since I ditched cable a few years ago. I can't even watch Hannity even if I wanted to.
One Network Is Crushing Ratings as Fox and CNN Take a Nosedive
I guess all those people who were watching Tucker Carlson are now checking out Rachel Maddow.Champagne corks were flying at MSNBC in June, as the news network is significantly closing the gap against Fox and CNN for the much-coveted 25-to-54 age primetime viewer demographic in the second quarter of 2023. With a 23% hike in the age-bracket advertisers favor most with ad spending, and a 16% rise in total viewership, MSNBC is generating momentum at a time its largest competitors are losing ground, according to Nielsen ratings. MSNBC also clocked in at second place for total primetime viewership in June while also finishing second in total daytime viewers, gaining 14% of total day viewers in June, while adding 20% of viewers in the 24-54 demographic over the same time period.
The left-leaning network’s ascension comes at a time when broadcast news mainstays CNN and Fox are losing viewers at an alarming clip. Both networks have suffered double-digit declines in the past month as internal struggles have seemingly impacted viewer numbers. Fox News lost a whopping 37% of viewers in its May 2022 to May 2023 primetime numbers. CNN is floundering as well, as it lost 21% of its 25-to-54 viewers in May.
As CNN and Fox News stumble, MSNBC is taking full advantage. The network is gaining fast on industry leader Fox News, tightening the total viewer gap to just 174,000 in June. MSNBC has also generated double-digit viewer growth across the board, led by weekday news broadcast Katy Tur Reports (up 44%), The Beat With Ari Melber (up 28% in total viewers), and Monday night’s The Rachel Maddow Show (the leading primetime cable news show).
With wall-to-wall coverage of the 2024 presidential election already on the horizon, there’s no doubt CNN and Fox will double efforts to regain lost viewers, but it won’t be easy. As the months of May and June have demonstrated, MSNBC isn’t backing down as it solidifies its burgeoning viewer base and closes the gap on two industry news leaders who’ve lost much of their luster.
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Re: RIP NatGeo
Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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Re: RIP NatGeo
The magazine suffered because print is no longer fashionable.
Their editor did make herself seem silly, apologizing for being white, and the transgender issue didn’t really have much to do with what you would think would be the magazine’s central Mission.
But it was dying anyway
Their editor did make herself seem silly, apologizing for being white, and the transgender issue didn’t really have much to do with what you would think would be the magazine’s central Mission.
But it was dying anyway