BackInTex wrote:Bob78164 wrote:flockofseagulls104 wrote:Can anyone deny that there may be parents who feel they will gain some kind of prestige and attention to themselves by showing themselves as so progressive to be raising a transgender child? An offshoot of Munchhausen syndrome?
bob-tel especially... Can you even consider that?
I cannot even fathom doing any kind of chemical or surgical procedure on any child. They have no idea what sexuality is. Any kind of radical thing like that should not even be considered until the person at least reaches puberty, and most logically the age of consent.
As per the 'bullying' aspect, that is an issue for the culture, not for the law.
Not in a case where the transition is approved by the child's guardian
ad litem, the neutral judge, and the treating physician.
I'll continue to ask until I get an answer. How many kids do you know who've actually been in this position? Because from where I sit, your own insistence on your view of morality, knowing nothing about these kids, their families, or the doctors who are treating them, would condemn them to a least a childhood that (as noted in the study I linked above) far too many of them don't survive. --Bob
We do know something about the kid. Chromosomes are XY. He has a penis. He is male. He needs help, but not the kind he is getting.
So you've never met her. You don't know the family. All you know is what you've read about her on the Internet.
And you have the colossal arrogance to believe that you know better than her mother, the guardian
ad litem specifically appointed to protect her interests, the judge who's actually heard the evidence, and the treating physician what's good for her.
You have the bigotry to insist on referring to her by male pronouns no matter what effect it may have on her.
And you're willing to use the force of government to impose your views, not just on her, but on everyone like her, all to force her to live in conformance with your own narrow-minded beliefs.
This is exactly the same argument that people try to use to justify "curing" gay people "for their own good." And that bigotry has done an awful lot of harm to an awful lot of people.
You know what turned the tide on same-sex marriage? When it actually started happening. When people started realizing that all of the parade of horribles that people used to oppose same-sex marriage had nothing to do with the neighbors they'd gotten to know, the parents of their kids' friends, and their co-workers. When people started realizing that their own lives demonstrated that the scare tactics were bullshit.
So I'll continue to ask. Do you know even one person who has transitioned? Because if you don't, then you have no idea what you're talking about and you're letting your own bigotry and prejudices try to ruin the lives of an awful lot of kids. And that's worth fighting against, anywhere it happens. --Bob
"Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." Thomas Jefferson