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Interesting Newsweek Article on "Sex and the City"

#1 Post by fuzzywuzzy » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:31 am

I saw this and I had to post it to get a conversation going between the sexes. It's something to think about anyway! 8)

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Sexism and the City
What's up with this vicious bashing of the 'Sex and the City' movie?


Ramin Setoodeh
Newsweek Web Exclusive
Updated: 6:12 PM ET Jun 3, 2008

"Sex and the City" the movie has done so well at the box office already it's hard not to get carried away. It opened with $56.8 million last weekend, the highest-grossing debut ever for a movie starring women. It's also the first tent-pole blockbuster to rest squarely on a female demographic—85 percent of the audience on opening night, according to a studio estimate. As I wandered into a Manhattan theater on Saturday, crowds of women swarmed and sat in a long hallway, as if they were waiting to pick up the next Harry Potter book. A door opened and out popped a group of newly Sexed fans, who left a screening misty-eyed and jubilant, deeply satisfied to have spent 145 minutes with some old pals.

"Sex and the City" the TV series was a revolution, yadda yadda, because it was one of the rare forms of entertainment that showed women in the flesh (and flesh), with all their vulnerabilities, anxieties and intelligence. But when you listen to men talk about it (and this is coming from the perspective of a male writer), a strange thing happens. The talk turns hateful. Angry. Vengeful. Annoyed. It's not just that they don't want to accompany their significant others to the movie. How dare Carrie and her girls hijack the box office during a time when the Hulk, Iron Man, Indiana Jones and the good old boys of the summer usually rule?

Is this just poor sportsmanship? I can't help but wonder—cue the Carrie Bradshaw voiceover here—if it's not a case of "Sexism in the City." Men hated the movie before it even opened. They flooded IMDB.com, voting early and often, so that the movie would have a low rating of 3 out of 10 among users before Friday (although now that number is higher, at 4.8). Movie critics, an overwhelmingly male demographic, gave it such a nasty tongue lashing you would have thought they were talking about an ex-girlfriend. "Sex" mustered a 54 percent fresh rating on RottenTomatoes.com, compared to the 77 percent fresh for the snoozefest that was "Indiana Jones" (a boy's movie! Such harmless fun!).

What's surprising is the lengths men go to push Carrie off her Manolos. "How much do you want to bet 'Sex and the City' drops 70 percent this weekend," said a guy colleague of mine, gleefully. Roger Ebert, in a scathing one-and-a-half-star review, wrote, "I am not the person to review this movie … I was lucky I know who Vivienne Westwood was, and that's because she used to be the girlfriend of the Sex Pistols' manager." Anthony Lane, of the New Yorker, called the women "hormonal hobbits, and all obsessed with a ring." James Berardinelli, of ReelViews, said, "Watching grass grow is dramatically more satisfying." A Web poster named KingVahagn—indulge me for thinking he's a he—summed it up best: "Poor boyfriends everywhere."

The movie might not be "Citizen Kane"—which, for the record, is a dude flick—but it's incredibly sweet and touching. If it's not your cup of tea (or Cosmo), must you really attack it so vehemently? Rodney Dangerfield always complained about not getting enough respect in Hollywood, but the real victims seem to be women. Not just because they're usually sidelined as the blinking love interest (Gwyneth Paltrow in "Iron Man" or Liv Tyler in "The Incredible Hulk"). The blog "Women and Hollywood" features telling statistics: last year only five of the top 50 films of the year had major roles for women. Only 15 percent of directors, producers, writers and high-ranking staff are female. Fay Ann Lee, the director of "Falling for Grace," tells the site, "The point here is can women open movies? Meryl Streep can't. Jodie Foster can't. Julianne Moore can't. Julia Roberts can't." But Carrie? Yes she can.

Speaking of which, it's tempting to draw the parallel between the "Sex" haters and the Hillary haters. Ms. Clinton argued that sexism took down her campaign. No way, taunt the Obamaniacs. Fine. But we can all imagine a lunch between Hillary and Carrie, perhaps at a diner somewhere on Manhattan's Upper West Side. What would they talk about? Were the guys who held up the "Iron My Shirt!" signs for Hillary the same ones who voted Sarah Jessica Parker the unsexiest woman alive? And were they the ones who refused to vote for Hillary at all? Carrie once said, "Man may have discovered fire, but women discovered how to play with it." And long ago Hillary said, "I'm not some little woman standing by my man, like Tammy Wynette." She was more like Carrie: too big for that.

URL: http://www.newsweek.com/id/139889
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#2 Post by slam » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:40 am

I suppose I must be the exception, but I very much enjoyed the series and was eager to see the movie. My wife and I saw it in Manhattan on the Saturday night of the first weekend. The audience was indeed mostly women and mostly 20 or 30 something women for that matter. Many of the women were there in groups of friends. There was one such group seated next to us and I chatted briefly with the woman sitting next to me. She seemed surprised that I actually wanted to see this movie.

An interesting thing I noted about the crowd was they seemed more dressed up than I would have expected. As if that was the thing to do to get into the mood for this particular movie.

In the end, I enjoyed it, but felt that it certainly wasn't a great movie. For a fan of the show, it was a lot of fun to see where these women ended up 4 years later.

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#3 Post by earendel » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:50 am

I didn't watch the series, not because of its subject matter but because for the longest time we didn't have cable TV. When I traveled, I would watch an occasional episode just to see what all the fuss was about, and, being male, I didn't get it. Oh, there was the opportunity to see Kim Cattrall naked (but this was spoiled because for me she will always be the Vulcan Valeris from STVI) but aside from that there wasn't much "there" there.

Having said that, I can't understand the vitriol that some men have had toward the movie (at least as the Newsweek editor sees it). I do think that there will be a dropoff in attendance the second weekend (there almost always is for any movie), but as far as the movie itself goes, I think it deserves its spot in the cineplex just as much as "Iron Man" or the Indiana Jones movie does.
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#4 Post by Bob Juch » Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:38 am

I have had many, many, women tell me they couldn't stand the series and won't see the film. I heard some woman who saw the preview with me but who had not seen the series saying how much they hated the women as well.

I think the main problem is that the series and film were written by a man - a gay one - but who just thinks he understands women.
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#5 Post by silverscreenselect » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:56 pm

Essentially, this is a run-of-the-mill soap opera with some witty dialogue and lots of expensive fashionista glitz. It is a good half hour too long, but I didn't have a real problem with the film itself. Not having HBO, I never watched the series, but it wasn't too difficult to pick up the story lines even if you didn't know much about the details of the show.

I enjoy movies with good story lines even if they are "chick flicks." As with most soap operas, this one wasn't in the slightest bit "real," and its underlying message seemed to be, if life gets tough, buy a new outfit.

Ironically, what's interesting in this movie is that the women show that they are just as shallow and self-centered as men are. There's a workaholic whose husband cheats on her once and she can't forgive him. There's a woman whose boyfriend has gotten cold feet before who pushes him into a gaudy wedding and then can't forgive him when he gets cold feet again (actually he just needed a bit of reassurance which the script managed to manipulate so he couldn't get in touch with her). Then there's another woman who is a sexaholic who can't stand being monogamous with a guy who is doing his best to provide for her and make her happy.

It wasn't realistic, and I didn't learn any life lessons from it but I wasn't repulsed either. This one was passable entertainment, a six on a 1-10 scale. The only thing that would really upset me would be if Mrs. SSS decided she needed to start dressing like the women in the movie, which would bankrupt us in about one wardrobe change.

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#6 Post by ghostjmf » Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:25 pm

I basically can't stand women who are like these kinds of women. I have seen teeny bits of episodes, the expurgated ones that got on syndicated network TV, & nothing drew me.

But hey. I don't watch a lot of other shows that feature "these kinds of women" either. To each their whatever.

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