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silvercamaro · #1 Post by **silvercamaro** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:53 pm

Tonight the internet brought me photographs of the 2010 Camaro on a production line (or, at the very least, a test line) in Oshawa, Ontario. They like me. They really, really like me. (Even if they don't know they do.)

Sadly, the photographs were taken by an electrician with his cell phone, against company rules. Although he was a 28-year employee, he was fired. He said he had taken the pictures to show his kids, and the kids were the ones who posted the photos. I am sorry he lost his job, and I'm sorry his kids were such dolts.

Still, I'm delighted that the manufacturing process has begun. I'm also pleased to report that the vehicle on the test line was silver.

jaybee · #2 Post by **jaybee** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:26 am

Some more pics here:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3425

Not silver, but nobody got fired either.

ulysses5019 · #3 Post by **ulysses5019** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:40 am

jaybee wrote:Some more pics here:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3425

Not silver, but nobody got fired either.

Why are there gun portals in the bumper?

gsabc · #4 Post by **gsabc** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:41 am

ulysses5019 wrote:
jaybee wrote:Some more pics here:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3425

Not silver, but nobody got fired either.
Why are there gun portals in the bumper?

Those are the missile launchers. The oil slick sprayers are in the back.

#5 Post by **littlebeast13** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:48 am

gsabc wrote:
ulysses5019 wrote:
jaybee wrote:Some more pics here:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3425

Not silver, but nobody got fired either.
Why are there gun portals in the bumper?
Those are the missile launchers. The oil slick sprayers are in the back.

Don't forget the smoke screen!

lb13

ulysses5019 · #6 Post by **ulysses5019** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:20 am

littlebeast13 wrote:
gsabc wrote:
ulysses5019 wrote: Why are there gun portals in the bumper?
Those are the missile launchers. The oil slick sprayers are in the back.

Don't forget the smoke screen!

lb13

Is that smoke or just too much cabbage?

Desgeega · #7 Post by **Desgeega** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:41 am

ulysses5019 wrote:
littlebeast13 wrote:
gsabc wrote: Those are the missile launchers. The oil slick sprayers are in the back.

Don't forget the smoke screen!

lb13
Is that smoke or just too much cabbage?

It is smoke! Do not desecrate the classics!

ulysses5019 · #8 Post by **ulysses5019** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:48 am

Desgeega wrote:
ulysses5019 wrote:
littlebeast13 wrote:
Don't forget the smoke screen!

lb13
Is that smoke or just too much cabbage?

It is smoke! Do not desecrate the classics!

Sorry, I didn't mean to ruffle any feathers. I just thought someone had discovered an alternate fuel source.

Al Gore · #9 Post by **Al Gore** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:50 am

ulysses5019 wrote:
Desgeega wrote:
ulysses5019 wrote: Is that smoke or just too much cabbage?

It is smoke! Do not desecrate the classics!
Sorry, I didn't mean to ruffle any feathers. I just thought someone had discovered an alternate fuel source.

I have discovered such an alternative fuel. Unfortunately, it takes too much to fill up my tank so that I can produce the gas....

etaoin22 · #10 Post by **etaoin22** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:19 am

And here is the previous Camaro manufacturing facility in Ste-Thérèse, north of Montreal.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/BigAlZ/ste.jpg

silvercamaro · #11 Post by **silvercamaro** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:21 am

etaoin22 wrote:And here is the previous Camaro manufacturing facility in Ste-Thérèse, north of Montreal.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/BigAlZ/ste.jpg

Oh, my. What happened there?

silvercamaro · #12 Post by **silvercamaro** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:38 pm

So much for my good news.

GM announced today that the company will shut down manufacturing in Oshawa, among other places. I retain scant hope that GM has two facilities in that city, with an auto plant in addition to the "truck plant" mentioned in this news story.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080603/gm_share ... .html?.v=5

Perhaps I can start looking for announcements of a possible 2011 Camaro.

mellytu74 · #13 Post by **mellytu74** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:44 pm

SC --

Doesn't the plant have a mandate to produce the Camaro?

I thought only truck/SUV production was being curtailed.

silvercamaro · #14 Post by **silvercamaro** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:23 pm

mellytu74 wrote:SC --

Doesn't the plant have a mandate to produce the Camaro?

I thought only truck/SUV production was being curtailed.

I don't know any more than I read in the news story, which stated that the mentioned plants would be "shuttered." I will be looking for future stories that might provide more complete information. I found one other story that reported on the CEO's remarks to stockholders, but that reporter didn't mention the Canadian plant.

ulysses5019 · #15 Post by **ulysses5019** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:56 pm

silvercamaro wrote:
mellytu74 wrote:SC --

Doesn't the plant have a mandate to produce the Camaro?

I thought only truck/SUV production was being curtailed.

I don't know any more than I read in the news story, which stated that the mentioned plants would be "shuttered." I will be looking for future stories that might provide more complete information. I found one other story that reported on the CEO's remarks to stockholders, but that reporter didn't mention the Canadian plant.

There are other cars than the Camaro. Who needs a car with gun/missile portal,s rear end "fog" machines and a need for cabbage fuel?

silvercamaro · #16 Post by **silvercamaro** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:43 pm

ulysses5019 wrote:
There are other cars than the Camaro. Who needs a car with gun/missile portal,s rear end "fog" machines and a need for cabbage fuel?

Of course "there are other cars." Some of them are cars I wouldn't mind having. Alas, most of those are in the $80,000 to $400,000 range.

I need a car with gun/missile portals and rear-end fog machines because, although I have never admitted this in public before, I am an international super spy of legendary renown. Ian Fleming made James Bond a guy -- and British -- just so he wouldn't blow my cover.

You should see my boat.

ulysses5019 · #17 Post by **ulysses5019** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:50 pm

silvercamaro wrote:
ulysses5019 wrote:
There are other cars than the Camaro. Who needs a car with gun/missile portal,s rear end "fog" machines and a need for cabbage fuel?
Of course "there are other cars." Some of them are cars I wouldn't mind having. Alas, most of those are in the $80,000 to $400,000 range.

I need a car with gun/missile portals and rear-end fog machines because, although I have never admitted this in public before, I am an international super spy of legendary renown. Ian Fleming made James Bond a guy -- and British -- just so he wouldn't blow my cover.

You should see my boat.

They have water in OK?

silvercamaro · #18 Post by **silvercamaro** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:01 pm

ulysses5019 wrote:
They have water in OK?

We have much water, thanks to the Army Corps of Engineers, which created many lakes. I haven't measured personally, but the following excerpt from a web site sounds about right:

"With 200 man-made lakes, Oklahoma has more man-made lakes than any other state and boasts over one million surface-acres of water and 2,000 more miles (3,200 km) of shoreline than the Atlantic and Gulf coasts combined."

What we don't have is a lot of mountains, so there aren't many waterfalls. I have been unable to test in recent months the parachute device for the boat that lets me float down over tall cataracts.

ulysses5019 · #19 Post by **ulysses5019** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:08 pm

silvercamaro wrote:
ulysses5019 wrote:
They have water in OK?
We have much water, thanks to the Army Corps of Engineers, which created many lakes. I haven't measured personally, but the following excerpt from a web site sounds about right:

"With 200 man-made lakes, Oklahoma has more man-made lakes than any other state and boasts over one million surface-acres of water and 2,000 more miles (3,200 km) of shoreline than the Atlantic and Gulf coasts combined."

What we don't have is a lot of mountains, so there aren't many waterfalls. I have been unable to test in recent months the parachute device for the boat that lets me float down over tall cataracts.

No wonder I didn't see you in the Indiana Jones movie. Now, I've been to OK, and they must keep those lakes well hidden.

silvercamaro · #20 Post by **silvercamaro** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:23 pm

ulysses5019 wrote:
No wonder I didn't see you in the Indiana Jones movie. Now, I've been to OK, and they must keep those lakes well hidden.

Of course, silly. When they build lakes over the streets and highways, it really slows down traffic.

ulysses5019 · #21 Post by **ulysses5019** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:27 pm

silvercamaro wrote:
ulysses5019 wrote:
No wonder I didn't see you in the Indiana Jones movie. Now, I've been to OK, and they must keep those lakes well hidden.
Of course, silly. When they build lakes over the streets and highways, it really slows down traffic.

So OK has stealth lakes?

hermillion · #22 Post by **hermillion** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:28 pm

ulysses5019 wrote: They have water in OK?

Next time you drag yourself out here to God's country -- I have access to a sailboat and a whole lotta water.

herjosie even has her very own life jacket.

silvercamaro · #23 Post by **silvercamaro** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:29 pm

Here is the lovely lake closest to my house:

http://www.mapmyfitness.com/ride/united ... n/60483033

The satellite view is better. Click the "map" rectangle to get that.

jaybee · #24 Post by **jaybee** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:34 pm

silvercamaro wrote:So much for my good news.

GM announced today that the company will shut down manufacturing in Oshawa, among other places. I retain scant hope that GM has two facilities in that city, with an auto plant in addition to the "truck plant" mentioned in this news story.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080603/gm_share ... .html?.v=5

Perhaps I can start looking for announcements of a possible 2011 Camaro.

GM has too much invested in the Zeta platform (that's the Camaro) - in fact, instead of sticking with the Sigma platform (Cadillac CTS and others) they are making a modified Zeta to be the new Cadillac in model year 2011. This pretty well guarantees that they will have enough volumn of the basic structure to keep producing the Camaro for several years.

Everything I've read still shows the Camaro hitting SC's driveway in Spring of '09 as a 2010 model.

ulysses5019 · #25 Post by **ulysses5019** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:41 pm

silvercamaro wrote:Here is the lovely lake closest to my house:

http://www.mapmyfitness.com/ride/united ... n/60483033

The satellite view is better. Click the "map" rectangle to get that.

So that's where they hid it. The Joads shoulda gone there instead of CA.