That dress looks light French-blue & dull greenish gold

[ghostjmf]

to me, by the way.

There is a distinct 3rd group, which I am among, which sees the suspect photo this way. Some people are saying "blue & bronze", which I will go with, though I expect real bronze to have more of a sheen. Also real gold, come to think.

But we're never reported on. We just self-report. On my ancient Sony Trinitron TV with great color values, & on my Alcatel tablet, with the usual day-glo not-color-balanced color values a lot of new TVs have, I see the same thing.

I've seen versions on other people's computers that have the blue really faded, but not enough to be called white, not by me. And the bands gold. Except in some versions the bottom band is black, which in reality is the color all the bands are. I've also seen TV programs showing the dress filmed in better light than that orig photo, which shows the deep French blue & black it really is, which means I really can see the right colors in good light/photo.

[christie1111]

Reposting from EFB.....

Another reason quilters are superior. We don't care what color the dress is.... We just want to cut it into tiny squares and sew it back together - quote borrowed from another quilter.

[jaybee]

Maybe I am just not getting what's going on here with this dress thing. I've seen several different reports on this and understand what they are saying - some people see white/gold and some see blue/black.

However - There are two different pictures out there - One showing the blue/black dress and one overexposed photo that shows a white/gold one. Depending on which copy I see, I see either W/G or B/B. Never changes. If the two photos are side by side then I see one W/G dress and one B/B dress at the same time. Is this all based on what is seen in just the overexposed image? Are there some who look at the overexposed image (the one where the red spot on the RS background is all washed out too) and see B/B? If so, then put me in the seeing W/G for that copy.

Just color me confused.

[ghostjmf]

http://www.wired.com/2015/02/science-on ... lor-dress/

here's an article with at least the original photo, the one that confuses people, in the middle of the 3 choices. That mid photo is the one I see as "light blue dress with greeny-gold bands".


I've read comments where people report they go back & look at the same image & its values have suddenly flipped for them. Hasn't happened for me yet. Doctor warned me that with developing cataracts, the world will take on a yellowish cast eventually. Hasn't happened to me yet; maybe it has & I just don't realize it? Haven't seen health-of-eyes discussed in the discussions of whatever phenomenon is going on with this photo of dress.

[Jeemie]

The real dress is blue and black- they've shown photos of it, along with all the offerings of this type the dressmaker sells.

None of which are orange and white or gold and white. The white version has black with it.

PS- I originally saw it as gold and white, but in certain lights, could see how the white could be blue, and faint inklings that the gold/orange could be black.

However, in addition to the science of how people's brains process out the color of the illuminant to come to a conclusion of what color the reflectant is...I am also partially color-blind!

[ghostjmf]

A lot of men are partially colorblind. The partials can generally see blue, its red/green they're blind to. Duno how they react to yellow; gotta look it up, but not on this tablet.


But the vast group of people reacting to this "dress thing" are not colorblind. I think/hope.

[ghostjmf]

enchroma glasses for partially colorblind people; I can't get the link to paste on this tablet, but look them up. Corrects for red/green color blindness by subtracting some wavelengths. Very neat.

[ghostjmf]

Freaky screen-rotating phenom: On this Alcatel tablet, about which the reviews all warned me it handles viewing at angles badly, if I rotate the screen to my left, dress looks blue & black, to my right it looks white & gold. When I view it straight, still lighter blue & greenish gold.

It does not change depending on which eye I close. I was afraid it would.

[ghostjmf]

Oops. I get the same results if I keep the damn screen flat but rotate my head. Still the same results whichever eye I close, though.

[Jeemie]

I ain't spending $400 to see in full color.

I get by just fine.

[ghostjmf]

I still can't get paste to work on this tablet, though cut works. Anyway, check Pogue's blog re the enchromas . He tried them (he's severely red/green colorblind), he had a great "so this is what other people see!" reaction.......& he also won't spend the $600 he'd need for his defect.

That blows my mind, in a bad way, the way the test blew his in a good.


I took the enchroma site's test & as I suspected I have normal color vision (though the shapes in yellow stood out more sharply than those in other colors).

But I remember how much better than with glasses my vision was improved by the one pair of contacts I had that really worked. I would gladly pay $600 for glasses that completely cured my astigmatism, for instance.

[Jeemie]

I still can't get paste to work on this tablet, though cut works. Anyway, check Pogue's blog re the enchromas . He tried them (he's severely red/green colorblind), he had a great "so this is what other people see!" reaction.......& he also won't spend the $600 he'd need for his defect.

That blows my mind, in a bad way, the way the test blew his in a good.


I took the enchroma site's test & as I suspected I have normal color vision (though the shapes in yellow stood out more sharply than those in other colors).

But I remember how much better than with glasses my vision was improved by the one pair of contacts I had that really worked. I would gladly pay $600 for glasses that completely cured my astigmatism, for instance.

Astigmatism is different from color-blindness.

Except in rare cases, color-blindness is not debilitating.

It's not debilitating in my case...so no need to spend $400-$600 to correct the problem.

And worse- the cure is to WEAR glasses.

Curing an astigmatism is a way to get AWAY from wearing glasses!

Add to that these glasses don't work indoors, don't work with computers (and, I assume, TVs), and don't work at night (which is when I have the most difficulty with traffic lights, BTW).

So what's the point?

[ghostjmf]

My point is that if it were me I'd want to see what I was missing. I can appreciate that you don't want to wear glasses to do it, but as you point out they only work in bright light (they were originally designed to be especially great sunglasses, until the inventors realized they separated conflicting color info enough to enable some colorblind people to see the colors they were missing; then they went down that track instead) & as people wear sunglasses in bright light anyway, I'd go for it. But I'm me.


I hope the fact that the yellow diamonds, squares & circles stood out much more clearly on the test doesn't mean that my differentiation of red (pink on the test), blue & green is so much worse. I've got to look up the science behind the test composition to see if most people get that result.


Now that I'm briefly at a real computer, here are the links for whomever wants them (2nd link goes directly to the colorblindness test):


http://enchroma.com/


http://enchroma.com/test/instructions/


Meanwhile, back to the dress:


Some survey I looked up said only 5% of people who took the survey report the lighter-blue-with-greeny-gold-bands that I see.


I need to get onto some dress-hyper site & ask them to tilt either their screens or their heads & see if they get the same "oh my G-d tilting the screen or my head gives me the blue-&-black when tilted to one side & the white-&-gold when tilted to the other!". I can't be the only screen- or head-tilter interested in this phenomenon, can I?


It all says something about how my brain processes stuff that I get one result when the info is coming primarily from my left, another result when the info is coming primarily from my right. And a 3rd result when I look at the dress head-on. But I dunno what.