One more Republican endorsing Obama

[NellyLunatic1980]

Good luck calling this guy a Democrat.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_ha ... ses_obama/

A prominent New Hampshire Republican is getting off the Straight Talk Express and hopping on the Obama bandwagon.

Fred Bramante has stepped down from John McCain's New Hampshire Leadership Committee to endorse Barack Obama. The former chairman and current member of the state Board of Education said he opposes McCain's support of school vouchers, which would give parents taxpayer money to offset the cost of private schooling. Bramante said politicians must abandon the voucher idea if they want to improve education.

Bramante said he's concluded McCain would do little to improve education, while Obama supports new and innovative ideas.

Bramante was co-chairman of Mike Huckabee's New Hampshire presidential campaign and joined McCain after Huckabee dropped out of the race. He also was a delegate to the national GOP convention.

[Barack-O-Lantern]

Thank you!

[Helen A. Handbasket]

Good luck calling this guy a Democrat.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_ha ... ses_obama/

A prominent New Hampshire Republican is getting off the Straight Talk Express and hopping on the Obama bandwagon.

Fred Bramante has stepped down from John McCain's New Hampshire Leadership Committee to endorse Barack Obama. The former chairman and current member of the state Board of Education said he opposes McCain's support of school vouchers, which would give parents taxpayer money to offset the cost of private schooling. Bramante said politicians must abandon the voucher idea if they want to improve education.

Bramante said he's concluded McCain would do little to improve education, while Obama supports new and innovative ideas.

Bramante was co-chairman of Mike Huckabee's New Hampshire presidential campaign and joined McCain after Huckabee dropped out of the race. He also was a delegate to the national GOP convention.

He's a Democrat!

[mrkelley23]

Good luck calling this guy a Democrat.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_ha ... ses_obama/

A prominent New Hampshire Republican is getting off the Straight Talk Express and hopping on the Obama bandwagon.

Fred Bramante has stepped down from John McCain's New Hampshire Leadership Committee to endorse Barack Obama. The former chairman and current member of the state Board of Education said he opposes McCain's support of school vouchers, which would give parents taxpayer money to offset the cost of private schooling. Bramante said politicians must abandon the voucher idea if they want to improve education.

Bramante said he's concluded McCain would do little to improve education, while Obama supports new and innovative ideas.

Bramante was co-chairman of Mike Huckabee's New Hampshire presidential campaign and joined McCain after Huckabee dropped out of the race. He also was a delegate to the national GOP convention.

He's a Democrat!

Hey! You did it! Congratulations!

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

As a Conservative, I Must Say I Do Quite Like the Cut of this Obama Fellow's Jib

By T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII
Columnist, The National Topsider
Membership Chairman, The Newport Club

When my late father T. Coddington Van Voorhees VI founded the iconoclastic conservative journal National Topsider in 1948, he famously declared that "Now is the time for all good conservative helmsmen to hoist the mizzen, pour the cocktails, and steer this damned schooner hard starboard." In the 60 years since he first uttered it after one-too-many Cosmopolitans at one of Pamela Harriman's notorious foreign policy black tie balls, father's pithy bon mot has served as a rallying cry for conservatives from Greenwich to Chevy Chase. Today, I say it's time for we conservatives to once again grab the rigging and set sail with the flotilla of the true conservative in this race: Barack Obama.

Iowahawk skewers Chris Buckley

[TheCalvinator24]

Good luck calling this guy a Democrat.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_ha ... ses_obama/

A prominent New Hampshire Republican is getting off the Straight Talk Express and hopping on the Obama bandwagon.

Fred Bramante has stepped down from John McCain's New Hampshire Leadership Committee to endorse Barack Obama. The former chairman and current member of the state Board of Education said he opposes McCain's support of school vouchers, which would give parents taxpayer money to offset the cost of private schooling. Bramante said politicians must abandon the voucher idea if they want to improve education.

Bramante said he's concluded McCain would do little to improve education, while Obama supports new and innovative ideas.

Bramante was co-chairman of Mike Huckabee's New Hampshire presidential campaign and joined McCain after Huckabee dropped out of the race. He also was a delegate to the national GOP convention.

Something smells fishy. The guy supported Governor Huckabee, who was an adamant supporter of school choice (if not vouchers—I really can't remember), and then jumped on Board with Senator McCain, who has consistently supported vouchers, and then at the last minute decides he can't support McCain because of this issue?

There's more here than meets the eye.

[Miss Informed]

Gimme his address. I'll have Todd go talk to him...

[Four Hour Stiffy]

Gimme his address. I'll have Todd go talk to him...

And while Todd's away, how about I treat you to something that lasts longer than the days up there.....

[BackInTex]

There's more here than meets the eye.

Yes there is. The same can be said about Obama because he won't release his birth certificate, is college records, or the tape of his honoring a Palestinian terrorist. Yeah, I know the LA times has the tape, but if Obama said "release it", they would. Yeah, I know there is an image of a laser printed "Certificate of Live Birth". Well, I know he was a live birth, I see his lips move 40 something years later.

He won't release these things because of one reason. They would hurt his election chances. So, from that you can determine what is in each of those undisclose records; something that would make more people NOT vote for him.

Yet, so many STILL will vote for him. Why? I can't understand it.

So, why is this guy jumping candidates, parties, and ideologies? Who knows, but there is something. My guess is $$$$ for him personally. Maybe a cabinet post.

[Rexer25]

The same can be said about Obama because he won't release his birth certificate, ...

Is the information on this web site not sufficient?

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... e_usa.html

[silverscreenselect]

The same can be said about Obama because he won't release his birth certificate, ...

Is the information on this web site not sufficient?

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... e_usa.html

Although I personally don't put much stock in the stories about Obama not being a citizen, if you add all the things he won't release: his school and college records; his state senate records; his medical records and then combine them with what little record of accomplishment he has... essentially he is asking people to take him on faith based on his ability to give a good speech and an occasional commitment to certain things in the Democratic platform.

We know far less about Obama than any major party candidate in the last 100 years or more.

[NellyLunatic1980]

The same can be said about Obama because he won't release his birth certificate, ...

Is the information on this web site not sufficient?

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... e_usa.html

Even the whackjob website World Nut Daily--I mean, World Net Daily has seen Obama's birth certificate and declared it legal.

Here's another news flash for you, BiT: Khalidi (or however you spell his name) once got $500,000 from a group chaired by... Sen. John Sidney McCain III.

So once again, your selective reading and comprehension has been exposed.

[Miss Informed]

The same can be said about Obama because he won't release his birth certificate, ...

Is the information on this web site not sufficient?

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... e_usa.html

Daniel and sss already found his REAL birth certificate. The mother's name is Rosemary, and the father's name is left blank. Verrrrrrrrrry suspicious!

[silverscreenselect]

The same can be said about Obama because he won't release his birth certificate, ...

Is the information on this web site not sufficient?

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... e_usa.html

Even the whackjob website World Nut Daily--I mean, World Net Daily has seen Obama's birth certificate and declared it legal.

Here's another news flash for you, BiT: Khalidi (or however you spell his name) once got $500,000 from a group chaired by... Sen. John Sidney McCain III.

So once again, your selective reading and comprehension has been exposed.

The foundation headed by McCain donated money to an organization for Palestinian research that Khalidi served on the board of directors. These contributions did not go to Khalidi himself and continued after he quit serving on the board.

Khalidi is a close personal friend of Obama's. According to the LA TImes report of the banquet that it won't release the tape of, Obama spoke at length about dining at the Khalidis; how his many talks with the Khalidis reminded him about his own biases; how his family had become friends with the Khalidis. Khalidi held a fundraiser in his home in 2000 for Obama's failed House campaign. And Obama's Woods foundation has channeled a lot of money over the years to the Arab American Action Network, a far more controversial organization that was founded by Khalidi.

So you have on the one hand a business relationship with a research organization that continued after Khalidi left and on the other hand, a personal relationship that includes frequent evenings out together. Of course, maybe Obama didn't really know Khalidi like he didn't know Ayers, Rezko and Wright.

If the McCains had been frequent dinner guests of David Dukes, I don't think the press would have given him a pass on the issue.

[Miss Informed]

Yeah! Being friends with someone means you support their agenda! Giving them money doesn't!

[silverscreenselect]

Yeah! Being friends with someone means you support their agenda! Giving them money doesn't!

The money did not go to Khalidi; it went to a Palestinian research organization. It wasn't given by McCain personally so there's no way to know how much knowledge or influence he had in the decision. Decisions about who you socialize with and serve as "valuable inspirations" to you are a lot more personal.

[Miss Informed]

Yeah! Being friends with someone means you support their agenda! Giving them money doesn't!

The money did not go to Khalidi; it went to a Palestinian research organization. It wasn't given by McCain personally so there's no way to know how much knowledge or influence he had in the decision. Decisions about who you socialize with and serve as "valuable inspirations" to you are a lot more personal.

Yeah! It's better to not let knowledge get in the way of those decisions! Just give out the money!

[BackInTex]

The same can be said about Obama because he won't release his birth certificate, ...

Is the information on this web site not sufficient?

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... e_usa.html

Factcheck.org? Are you kidding? I might as well trust ObamaForPresident.org.

For those that don't know, Factcheck.org is run by the Annenberg foundation. Its right there on their website.

I can't recall at the moment, but one of the two presidential candidates use to sit on the board of one of the Annenberg Foundation's subsidiaries (a $500 million subsidiary, called the Annenberg Challenge). Oh, yeah, now I remember...it was Barack H Obama. You know who else was involved? What's his name, Ayers, Bill Ayers, the bombing unrepenting terrorist who is 'just an aquaintance' of Obama's. He helped write a proposal to the foundation to get money, which apparently Obama approved.

More and more stuff under the rug.

[KillerTomato]

Factcheck.org? Are you kidding? I might as well trust ObamaForPresident.org.

For those that don't know, Factcheck.org is run by the Annenberg foundation. Its right there on their website.

I can't recall at the moment, but one of the two presidential candidates use to sit on the board of one of the Annenberg Foundation's subsidiaries (a $500 million subsidiary, called the Annenberg Challenge). Oh, yeah, now I remember...it was Barack H Obama. You know who else was involved? What's his name, Ayers, Bill Ayers, the bombing unrepenting terrorist who is 'just an aquaintance' of Obama's. He helped write a proposal to the foundation to get money, which apparently Obama approved.

More and more stuff under the rug.

Hmm...and who is the Annenberg Foundation named for? Oh, that's right....this guy. Friend of Reagan, Nixon and Bush. Sounds like a radical to me.

BiT, factcheck.org is as nonpartisan as they come, but you can also check politifact.com (from CQ and the St. Petersburg (FL, not Russia) Times) here.

Or perhaps you can check with the Department of Homeland Security, since to get his US Passport, he used his birth certificate. And I'm pretty sure he got his Passport well before Gov. Palin got hers.

But again, don't let facts get in your way.

[BackInTex]

Or perhaps you can check with the Department of Homeland Security, since to get his US Passport, he used his birth certificate. And I'm pretty sure he got his Passport well before Gov. Palin got hers.

But again, don't let facts get in your way.

Are you saying that you have to be a natural born citizen to get a passport? Because if you are using 'he got a passport' as proof he is natural born, you are wrong. That isn't even a valid point of fact for use in this debate.

I'm sure he did use a valid birth certificate to get his passport. But getting a passport does not mean you meet the qualifications to be president. Two of my kids have passports. I'm sure Holtdad's kids have passports. Arnold has one.

I'm not letting any facts get in my way. I know the facts and the facts do not include Obama making his original birth certificate public.

Obama could put this to rest. I'm sure he wishes it would go away. So why doesn't he? Because......? What?

So why doesn't he open his college records? Bush did. Kerry did. Everyone has, but Obama. Again, nothing to hide? Then show it.

The fact is, he HAS something or somethings to hide. Or he is dismissing the entire American citizenery as unworthy to know and umimportant.

Unimportant, like his aunt. He wants us to share the wealth but he doesn't even share his with his own frickin' family. What a wonderful role model and human beihng. He's a generous man, with but only with other people's money.

The more I learn about him, the more disgusted I get.

[KillerTomato]

Did you even bother to read the PolitiFact entry on the birth certificate? The State of Hawaii has said the one PolitiFact has is valid....and that one came from the Campaign itself, on June 13, 2008. Exactly who has to validate the document before you will accept it?

Even the McCain campaign isn't bringing up this issue, just sleazy emails and the neo-con talk radio morons.

Yes, you ARE letting the facts get in the way. You don't like Obama, you don't trust Obama, you don't like Obama's stand on the issues. All of those are relevent and acceptable. These smear campaign tactics aren't. You're better than this, BiT.

[silverscreenselect]

Did you even bother to read the PolitiFact entry on the birth certificate? The State of Hawaii has said the one PolitiFact has is valid....and that one came from the Campaign itself, on June 13, 2008. Exactly who has to validate the document before you will accept it?

Even the McCain campaign isn't bringing up this issue, just sleazy emails and the neo-con talk radio morons.

Yes, you ARE letting the facts get in the way. You don't like Obama, you don't trust Obama, you don't like Obama's stand on the issues. All of those are relevent and acceptable. These smear campaign tactics aren't. You're better than this, BiT.

The birth certificate is a non-issue in my mind, but it is only one small part of a key pattern of Obama secrecy. State senate records, donor records (it's looking more and more like the campaign is taking a flood of nonexistent contributions, many of which could be foreign, corporate or excess), medical records, college records. They want us to know nothing about the man other than his speeches and his books and his tailored PR image. You can't blame them. You can blame a press that was so willing to dig into Sarah Palin's library books but not Obama's state senate record, or Joe the Plumber's tax liens but not Obama's campaign contributions.

[Bob Juch]

Did you even bother to read the PolitiFact entry on the birth certificate? The State of Hawaii has said the one PolitiFact has is valid....and that one came from the Campaign itself, on June 13, 2008. Exactly who has to validate the document before you will accept it?

Even the McCain campaign isn't bringing up this issue, just sleazy emails and the neo-con talk radio morons.

Yes, you ARE letting the facts get in the way. You don't like Obama, you don't trust Obama, you don't like Obama's stand on the issues. All of those are relevent and acceptable. These smear campaign tactics aren't. You're better than this, BiT.

The birth certificate is a non-issue in my mind, but it is only one small part of a key pattern of Obama secrecy. State senate records, donor records (it's looking more and more like the campaign is taking a flood of nonexistent contributions, many of which could be foreign, corporate or excess), medical records, college records. They want us to know nothing about the man other than his speeches and his books and his tailored PR image. You can't blame them. You can blame a press that was so willing to dig into Sarah Palin's library books but not Obama's state senate record, or Joe the Plumber's tax liens but not Obama's campaign contributions.

WTF are you talking about? State senate records and campaign contributions are public records, available to anyone.

[silverscreenselect]

Did you even bother to read the PolitiFact entry on the birth certificate? The State of Hawaii has said the one PolitiFact has is valid....and that one came from the Campaign itself, on June 13, 2008. Exactly who has to validate the document before you will accept it?

Even the McCain campaign isn't bringing up this issue, just sleazy emails and the neo-con talk radio morons.

Yes, you ARE letting the facts get in the way. You don't like Obama, you don't trust Obama, you don't like Obama's stand on the issues. All of those are relevent and acceptable. These smear campaign tactics aren't. You're better than this, BiT.

The birth certificate is a non-issue in my mind, but it is only one small part of a key pattern of Obama secrecy. State senate records, donor records (it's looking more and more like the campaign is taking a flood of nonexistent contributions, many of which could be foreign, corporate or excess), medical records, college records. They want us to know nothing about the man other than his speeches and his books and his tailored PR image. You can't blame them. You can blame a press that was so willing to dig into Sarah Palin's library books but not Obama's state senate record, or Joe the Plumber's tax liens but not Obama's campaign contributions.

WTF are you talking about? State senate records and campaign contributions are public records, available to anyone.

Many of Obama's state Senate records seem to have disappeared. As for his contributions, let's just say that there's a lot of people with very funny names contributing to his campaign and there seems to be no requirement that credit card contributors actually match the name and address on the credit card.