Afghans and Homosexuality

[silverscreenselect]

If they were interested in the well-being of the LBGT 'community' they would be focusing on cultures that truly are harsh and cruel to gay people. Our culture is NOT.

However, gays in the United States do live here and do experience the discrimination and worse that goes on here. And they have much more political clout to do something about the conditions and laws in this country than in others. If you're on a ship that's sinking, you want your ship to be repaired first, not some bridge across the world that's in worse condition.

And as I noted in my earlier post, a lot of Democrats and liberals are active in trying to reduce discrimination against gays and women in other countries. But you seem to ignore all that just as when you conveniently claim that Hillary Clinton has never had any "accomplishments."

The only difference between Donald Trump and about 90% of the other Republicans is that Trump doesn't play games and try to cover up his bigotry and intolerance the way the others do. And that's why a lot of Republicans support him. Fortunately for this country, "a lot of Republicans" does not translate into a majority of the electorate.

[silverscreenselect]

If even a recognized "Moderate" Muslim in Australia is advocating the death penalty for homosexuality, just what the hell is being taught in the mosques/Islamic schools-even here in the US.

I repeat. The reason a lot of Muslims came to the United States was to get away from that type of religious teaching and from countries that had those types of laws. Why would they want to go through the same hate and bigotry all over again?

I have no doubt that there are some clerics who still teach that sort of thing. By one count, by some convservative websites, there were 80 radical mosques in the United States. Now, on the one hand, that's 80 too many, even assuming that the count isn't inflated, but it's also a very small proportion of the 2-3 million Muslims in the United States. And, if conservative action groups are aware of these radical mosques, you can bet the FBI is as well and is probably taking steps to find out when people in those mosques cross the line between preaching hatred and doing hateful deeds.

[tlynn78]

... you can bet the FBI is as well and is probably taking steps to find out when people in those mosques cross the line between preaching hatred and doing hateful deeds.

Like in Orlando, you mean? smh

[silverscreenselect]

... you can bet the FBI is as well and is probably taking steps to find out when people in those mosques cross the line between preaching hatred and doing hateful deeds.

Like in Orlando, you mean? smh

And that's why lone wolf terrorists like Mateen are so difficult to catch beforehand. They don't actually do anything illegal until they go on a spree. They don't conspire with jihadi operatives or act under specific orders. They get "spiritual guidance" but nothing actionable. It may well be that the FBI was negligent in failing to do more about him, but they certainly don't have enough manpower to put everyone who says something hateful under round-the-clock surveillance. There's also plenty of evidence that Mateen was a conflicted, closeted gay who eventually lashed out at others in the gay community and used his "faith" as a cover. I'm not sure how you stop anyone like that, unless, of course, you do something intelligent like limit their access to mass firepower that allows them to shoot 100 people.

The people that have been caught by the FBI have usually been caught in sting operations trying to buy explosives or other contraband or when a co-conspirator ratted them out. It's the same way police catch most criminals.

[Spock]

SSS>>>I repeat. The reason a lot of Muslims came to the United States was to get away from that type of religious teaching and from countries that had those types of laws. Why would they want to go through the same hate and bigotry all over again? <<<

Platitudes will get you nowhere. But, I guess nobody can disagree with you on the term "a lot".

15 years ago, I would have agreed with you even if you said a "Vast Majority". However, I am not so sure that that applies to the modern era of mass Muslim immigration. Look to Europe as an example. Especially when we lack the cultural confidence to assimilate immigrants anymore.

Europe is obviously a few years ahead of us on mass Muslim immigration. I don't have a lot of time right now, but a quick Google search showed that 23% of British Muslims favor the implementation of Sharia Law. I firmly believe that Europe is moving in that direction probably quicker than we think..

The true victims, when that day comes, will be the Muslims who came to Britain to escape that crap.

Meanwhile, a massive fiasco is going on right now in the St. Paul Minnesota school system. We don't even have the cultural confidence to discipline Somali (2nd Generation) because that would be racist. How is that helping those kids, and more importantly, the ones who want to learn?

For the record, it is not just Somali kids, but anecdotal reports from teachers indicate it is a heavily Somali problem. The parents have little respect for education, etc.

http://www.startribune.com/the-school-s ... 372619741/

Katherine Kersten has written on this extensively.

In some ways, the second generation of Somali immigrants (yes, many are born here) is getting the worst of both worlds. A thin veneer of Islam mixed with urban gang culture, plus whatever other pathologies exist in that environment. I am guessing that they still cut the clits (and labia?) off "a lot" of their little girls-even here in the US.

[silverscreenselect]

Europe is obviously a few years ahead of us on mass Muslim immigration. I don't have a lot of time right now, but a quick Google search showed that 23% of British Muslims favor the implementation of Sharia Law. I firmly believe that Europe is moving in that direction probably quicker than we think.

The methodology of that poll is somewhat suspect. They polled only Muslims residing in areas that had a disproportionately heavy Muslim population. Those would tend to be the most conservative people.

[silverscreenselect]

Katherine Kersten has written on this extensively.

Not having heard of Katherine Kersten, I looked her up. She's not held in very high regard. Here's one column that compares her to "Michele Bachman's a-little-bit-less-stupid big sister." That's not a compliment. My cat is a little bit less stupid than Michele Bachman.

https://www.minnpost.com/minnesota-blog ... ne-kersten