Talk to her about it then.peacock2121 wrote:I get all that and there is a difference between defending yourself and keeping the whole conversation going by escalating and/or picking at it for days and days.sunflower wrote:I can only speak for myself, so that is what I will do.peacock2121 wrote: It is a great question, not just for Sunflower though.
Because I have not yet and choose not to ignore anyone or make them a foe or whatever. I feel that it is my right to read whatever posts I would like on this board.
I also feel that I have the right to continue to challenge when someone wishes harm upon me, my friends, my family OR anyone I care about. I feel that I have the right to be pissed off when that person not only does not apologize, but further denies saying it even though it is there in black and white, and instead chooses to launch personal attacks of my intelligence by getting in a Webster's dictionary pissing match instead of taking accountability and responsibility that something shitty was said.
So no, I will not let it go. No, I will not ignore her. I will continue to defend myself...and if you all want to defend her while she wishes ill upon innocent poeple, so be it. But I'm not okay with it and I never will be.
Dear Ghost
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Does this mean that you want her to be more mature than you are willing to be?sunflower wrote:Talk to her about it then.peacock2121 wrote:I get all that and there is a difference between defending yourself and keeping the whole conversation going by escalating and/or picking at it for days and days.sunflower wrote: I can only speak for myself, so that is what I will do.
Because I have not yet and choose not to ignore anyone or make them a foe or whatever. I feel that it is my right to read whatever posts I would like on this board.
I also feel that I have the right to continue to challenge when someone wishes harm upon me, my friends, my family OR anyone I care about. I feel that I have the right to be pissed off when that person not only does not apologize, but further denies saying it even though it is there in black and white, and instead chooses to launch personal attacks of my intelligence by getting in a Webster's dictionary pissing match instead of taking accountability and responsibility that something shitty was said.
So no, I will not let it go. No, I will not ignore her. I will continue to defend myself...and if you all want to defend her while she wishes ill upon innocent poeple, so be it. But I'm not okay with it and I never will be.
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I think maybe you should read back to where this all started yesterday and see what I said vs. what she said, because I was mostly reacting to what she was saying. I started by discussing a moderator related issue, that used something she said as a relevant example, and it turned into her calling me a liar, telling me I didn't know how to read, didn't understand words, wasn't fluent in English, etc....largely unprovoked. Why is that okay, and why am I immature?peacock2121 wrote:Does this mean that you want her to be more mature than you are willing to be?sunflower wrote:Talk to her about it then.peacock2121 wrote: I get all that and there is a difference between defending yourself and keeping the whole conversation going by escalating and/or picking at it for days and days.
And pea, why are you instigating in something that has nothing to do with you anyway? Why do you keep going? At least when I use my pointy stick in a thread or post that directly involves me, I can explain why I am. What's your explanation? Why do you keep pushing when you know it's going to piss me off, and are you any better than any of the people you are chastising if this is how you choose to act?
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Re: Dear Ghost
You are probably right about excessiveness. I am the non-Cowardly-Name-Changing author of the first post of the 2 threads you mentioned. It was not, however, "independent of any particular vexatious post." In another post, I was accused of burying a comment deep within a <(n) exaggerated number>-page thread, in effect, hiding it from the person to whom I was directing my "creepy comment." In other recent exchanges, I have been accused of spreading "hooey" when I've explained the non-sinister intended meanings of misinterpreted posts. The post you mentioned was my juvenile response to those comments.wintergreen48 wrote:I think if someone posts something that vexes you, it is totally appropriate to respond to that post. It may even be appropriate for a lot of people to pile on in response to that vexatious post, if indeed that post vexes a lot of people. But it saddens me that we now seem to be starting entire threads that arise ab initio for no real purpose other than to pile on someone, independent of any particular vexatious post. This is at least the second such thread I've seen this weekend, both directed at the same person/ Regardless of how people might feel about said person, it seems a bit, well, excessive.
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Re: Dear Ghost
I can't read the title of this post without singing it to the tune of the XTC song and making up lyrics in my head to go along with it.
Am I alone in this and it's just a clear indication that I listen to way too much 80s music?
Am I alone in this and it's just a clear indication that I listen to way too much 80s music?
Screw you guys, I'm going home.
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Re: Dear Ghost
Looks black and blue on my screen.sunflower wrote:I feel that I have the right to be pissed off when that person not only does not apologize, but further denies saying it even though it is there in black and white
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Maybe I'm just a dumby, but I can usually figure out the MMs and I can't see how this is indicative of anybody, diguised or not.BigDrawMan wrote:tweetybird wrote:So why do you keep coming here if you feel like there are so many insulting creeps who don't like you, anyway? The irony is that if you weren't so negative, obstinate and downright mean, maybe they would like you! Or have you already tried being nice and even that didn't work for you? What you consider cliques here are just normal people with senses of humor and social mores who enjoy each others virtual company. Obviously you must have been absent the day they passed out sensibilities because let me guess- you've had this same problem all through your school years and right on into the workplace. And its always "them" and not you right?
You are a very troubled person who actively searches the posts of those who you feel have ever dissed you, for any inkling of provocation to jump on so you can twist it into something that will make you look like the poor trodden victim or the superhero who swoops in to defend the defenseless.
Your behavior is juvenile like the 3rd grade boy who acts out in class or pulls the girls hair. You crave and invite all the negative attention you receive. Is it really that much better than no attention at all?
Sometimes its obvious that you have a mental condition and just can't help the way you are. Either that or you desperately need to get laid.
Could you figure it out and get back to us?
Love,
Tweety
why use a thinly disguised MM to say something "relatively" benign?
that is weak
Would somebody really register a name that had nothing to do with this topic or the subject addressed and just wait over 7 months for the perfect opportunity to post a pretty reasonable and calm message? And wouldn't lb have designated it as a Merry Man as he usually does when a name is registered with a known email or IP?
Bob is going to hammer down on your ass for not being nice to a newbie and making them not want to post anymore.
Or is this just bdm talking through his hat and I still don't get him?
Screw you guys, I'm going home.
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It's pink and pink (and pink) on mine....ToLiveIsToFly wrote:Looks black and blue on my screen.sunflower wrote:I feel that I have the right to be pissed off when that person not only does not apologize, but further denies saying it even though it is there in black and white
Screw you guys, I'm going home.
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Bob is entirely capable of speaking for himself. Able to learn from experience (albeit more slowly than some might like), he chose not to.Southpaw Fanny wrote:Bob is going to hammer down on your ass for not being nice to a newbie and making them not want to post anymore.
Besides, although I have no idea who tweetybird is, in my experience, it would be very surprising for a newby (newbie?) to choose a post of this tenor as their introduction to a community. --Bob
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I was being arch.Bob78164 wrote:Bob is entirely capable of speaking for himself. Able to learn from experience (albeit more slowly than some might like), he chose not to.Southpaw Fanny wrote:Bob is going to hammer down on your ass for not being nice to a newbie and making them not want to post anymore.
Besides, although I have no idea who tweetybird is, in my experience, it would be very surprising for a newby (newbie?) to choose a post of this tenor as their introduction to a community. --Bob
If you have no idea who tweetybird is then I'm sure they don't have a familiar IP so it would be unlikely that it is a thinly disguised MM, right?
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I suspected as much, but (a) I wasn't entirely certain, and (b) others might have taken you literally. That's how misunderstandings propagate, so I thought I'd better speak up. --BobSouthpaw Fanny wrote:I was being arch.Bob78164 wrote:Bob is entirely capable of speaking for himself. Able to learn from experience (albeit more slowly than some might like), he chose not to.Southpaw Fanny wrote:Bob is going to hammer down on your ass for not being nice to a newbie and making them not want to post anymore.
Besides, although I have no idea who tweetybird is, in my experience, it would be very surprising for a newby (newbie?) to choose a post of this tenor as their introduction to a community. --Bob
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1. I asked you a question. You did not answer my question - do you want her to be more mature than you are willing to be?sunflower wrote:I think maybe you should read back to where this all started yesterday and see what I said vs. what she said, because I was mostly reacting to what she was saying. I started by discussing a moderator related issue, that used something she said as a relevant example, and it turned into her calling me a liar, telling me I didn't know how to read, didn't understand words, wasn't fluent in English, etc....largely unprovoked. Why is that okay, and why am I immature?peacock2121 wrote:Does this mean that you want her to be more mature than you are willing to be?sunflower wrote: Talk to her about it then.
And pea, why are you instigating in something that has nothing to do with you anyway? Why do you keep going? At least when I use my pointy stick in a thread or post that directly involves me, I can explain why I am. What's your explanation? Why do you keep pushing when you know it's going to piss me off, and are you any better than any of the people you are chastising if this is how you choose to act?
2. I never said what she did or said was okay with me.
3. I never said you were immature. I asked you if you wanted her to be more mature than you were willing to be.
4. What am I instigating?
5. What do I keep going at? I made a statement of opinion. You responded with "Talk to her about it" I asked you a question, you responded, I responded.
6. I know what I will get when I rattle your cage. I am not surprised, nor should you be surprised when you rattle mine.
7. That you get pissed off is not a stop for me. Neither is that you piss others off a stop for you. I did not ask you to be different or better, I asked you if you want her to be more mature than you.
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Well then tell me, since you seem to think you know, how mature am I willing to be?peacock2121 wrote:1. I asked you a question. You did not answer my question - do you want her to be more mature than you are willing to be?sunflower wrote:I think maybe you should read back to where this all started yesterday and see what I said vs. what she said, because I was mostly reacting to what she was saying. I started by discussing a moderator related issue, that used something she said as a relevant example, and it turned into her calling me a liar, telling me I didn't know how to read, didn't understand words, wasn't fluent in English, etc....largely unprovoked. Why is that okay, and why am I immature?peacock2121 wrote: Does this mean that you want her to be more mature than you are willing to be?
And pea, why are you instigating in something that has nothing to do with you anyway? Why do you keep going? At least when I use my pointy stick in a thread or post that directly involves me, I can explain why I am. What's your explanation? Why do you keep pushing when you know it's going to piss me off, and are you any better than any of the people you are chastising if this is how you choose to act?
2. I never said what she did or said was okay with me.
3. I never said you were immature. I asked you if you wanted her to be more mature than you were willing to be.
4. What am I instigating?
5. What do I keep going at? I made a statement of opinion. You responded with "Talk to her about it" I asked you a question, you responded, I responded.
6. I know what I will get when I rattle your cage. I am not surprised, nor should you be surprised when you rattle mine.
7. That you get pissed off is not a stop for me. Neither is that you piss others off a stop for you. I did not ask you to be different or better, I asked you if you want her to be more mature than you.
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The popcorn seems to be gone, but I have some cake left if anyone wants some. 

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What flavor? --Boba1mamacat wrote:The popcorn seems to be gone, but I have some cake left if anyone wants some.
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Chocolate bunt birthday cake, with Cherries Jubilee glazeBob78164 wrote:What flavor? --Boba1mamacat wrote:The popcorn seems to be gone, but I have some cake left if anyone wants some.
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Re: Dear Ghost
Cliquot Club, I believe...Bob78164 wrote:What flavor? --Boba1mamacat wrote:The popcorn seems to be gone, but I have some cake left if anyone wants some.
A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five.
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Estonut wrote:Cliquot Club, I believe...Bob78164 wrote:What flavor? --Boba1mamacat wrote:The popcorn seems to be gone, but I have some cake left if anyone wants some.
What flavor?
Sparkling cider
Ginger ale
Eskimo-Up
Strawberry cream soda
Root beer
Raspberry soda
Cream soda
But if you find any, the fizz might be gone. It hasn't been manufactured since the 60's.
I believe in the usefulness of useless information.
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Figures. Well, that's true about me as well. --Bobulysses5019 wrote:But if you find any, the fizz might be gone. It hasn't been manufactured since the 60's.
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Re: Dear Ghost
Found it!ulysses5019 wrote:Estonut wrote:Cliquot Club, I believe...Bob78164 wrote:What flavor? --Bob
What flavor?
Sparkling cider
Ginger ale
Eskimo-Up
Strawberry cream soda
Root beer
Raspberry soda
Cream soda
But if you find any, the fizz might be gone. It hasn't been manufactured since the 60's.
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-- America would be a better place if leaders would do more long-term thinking. -- Wilma Mankiller
-- America would be a better place if leaders would do more long-term thinking. -- Wilma Mankiller
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Re: Dear Ghost
Take it up with mrkelly. He found it a few hours ago in the nine years ago thread.SportsFan68 wrote:Found it!ulysses5019 wrote:Estonut wrote: Cliquot Club, I believe...
What flavor?
Sparkling cider
Ginger ale
Eskimo-Up
Strawberry cream soda
Root beer
Raspberry soda
Cream soda
But if you find any, the fizz might be gone. It hasn't been manufactured since the 60's.
I believe in the usefulness of useless information.