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#26 Post by ToLiveIsToFly » Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:26 pm

Appa23 wrote:
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silverscreenselect wrote: My use of the term "resume" was more along the lines of biography/life story as recounted in his "biography," his web site, his promotional materials and the general statements he makes about his life story.

Those quite often have at best a passing resemblance to the truth.
Please give me an example
Two repeated "misstatements" jump to mind.

"My parents met during the Selma March." (This is why such a big deal was made out of the "My Uncle freed the Jews at Auschwitz" IMO.)

He had made a big deal about his struggle with being black at his Hawaiian High School, when his classmates all have said that he never discussed or was concerned with racial pressures in school.
I hope SSS has better than this, seeing how he supported a candidate who was named after a mountain climber who was drawing sniper fire in Kosovo.

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#27 Post by BackInTex » Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:32 pm

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MarleysGh0st wrote:So where in Texas is Carrollton? How big is it? Is there any other reason we might have heard of it before this big news story broke?
Carollton is a suburb of Dallas. It is large, 122,000 people.

I think it is the suburb that outlawed renting apartments to illegal aliens.
Think again. It was Farmers Branch. The courts struck down that law.
http://www.statesman.com/news/content/n ... ation.html
Well, I was almost right. They will soon have an ordinance.

http://www.examiner.com/a-1386421~New_m ... rants.html
New mayor in Dallas suburb to target illegal immigrants
May 12, 2008 4:07 AM (29 days ago) AP

CARROLLTON, Texas (Map, News) -

A newly elected mayor near Dallas says his top priority will be ridding his suburb of illegal immigrants, the same focus that has drawn national attention in a neighboring city.

But Ron Branson said Carrollton will not simply copy the blueprint of Farmers Branch, where an ordinance barring apartment rentals to most illegal immigrants has been put on hold by a federal judge.

"I do not want to rubber-stamp what they did," Branson said in Monday's editions of The Dallas Morning News. "We want to make sure we're not profiling, we're following the law, and take advantage of ordinance opportunities."

The victory by Branson in Saturday's election gives Dallas neighboring suburbs with mayors who share a common goal of driving out illegal immigrants in their cities.

Voters in Farmers Branch on Saturday elected Tim O'Hare, who as a city councilman pushed for one of the country's most sweeping anti-illegal immigration measures by a local government.

Farmers Branch residents endorsed a rental ban 2-to-1 last May, but enforcement of the ordinance has been blocked by a federal judge until legal challenges are resolved. Branson said Carrollton should not implement similar ordinance now, but should be prepared to do so if courts clear the way.

Brandon said he also planned to visit regularly with O'Hare, who said he welcomed the meetings.

Allan Saxe, political science professor at the University of Texas at Arlington, said the election of the two new mayors shows that illegal immigration continues to resonate with voters.

But Saxe said he doesn't believe the elections will effect much change because the cities are already availing themselves of available federal programs.

"I don't think it will have great reverberations outside the area, except those members of Congress that represent those areas will take notice of it," Saxe said.
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#28 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:34 pm

BackInTex wrote:
MarleysGh0st wrote:So where in Texas is Carrollton? How big is it? Is there any other reason we might have heard of it before this big news story broke?
Carollton is a suburb of Dallas. It is large, 122,000 people.

I think it is the suburb that outlawed renting apartments to illegal aliens.
The suburb that passed an ordinance prohibiting renting real property to illegal aliens was Farmers Branch.
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#29 Post by Bob Juch » Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:08 pm

Appa23 wrote:
ToLiveIsToFly wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote: My use of the term "resume" was more along the lines of biography/life story as recounted in his "biography," his web site, his promotional materials and the general statements he makes about his life story.

Those quite often have at best a passing resemblance to the truth.
Please give me an example
Two repeated "misstatements" jump to mind.

"My parents met during the Selma March." (This is why such a big deal was made out of the "My Uncle freed the Jews at Auschwitz" IMO.)

He had made a big deal about his struggle with being black at his Hawaiian High School, when his classmates all have said that he never discussed or was concerned with racial pressures in school.
Boy, how did they find all of his classmates? My 40-year high school reunion is coming up and we can find only about 20% of them.
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#30 Post by silverscreenselect » Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:43 am

ToLiveIsToFly wrote: I hope SSS has better than this, seeing how he supported a candidate who was named after a mountain climber who was drawing sniper fire in Kosovo.
Whenever the discussion about Obama's "history" comes up, the response from Obama supporters is inevitably to bring up some unsavory aspect of Hillary's or McCain's history. While both of them have their skeletons in the closet and have been known to vary from the truth, they are known quantities.

All that most people know about Obama is the carefully constructed "life story" that emerges from his biography, from his speeches, from his web site, along with his claims that he is a different type of politician. Yet when push comes to shove, he proves to be exactly the same kind of politician.

Obama is not a Hollywood star trying to look good on paper so people will buy tickets for his film. He isn't the mayor of a medium sized city. He is a man who wants people to trust him with the position with the greatest power in the entire world, based almost exclusively on a story that consists of one fabrication heaped on another. That should give pause to any thinking person.

Is he a Marxist? Who knows, based on his history. Is he an anti-White racist? Who knows? Is he a garden variety on-the-take crook? Who knows? Is he a pal of Iran and other Islamic extremists? Who knows? Frankly, there's nothing in his life story, nothing in his history of present votes and pushing the wrong button, nothing in his on-again, off-again opposition to the Iraq war, nothing in his subcommittee chairmanship which never involved any actual meetings, that can give anyone any confidence as to what he might do. And a lot of people feel perfectly comfortable giving him the most important and powerful job in the world, based upon their complete guesswork as to what sort of "change" Obama hopes to accomplish and how he hopes to accomplish it.

There's plenty of other lies, fabrications and distortions in Obama's life story, besides the Selma one, besides his tales of merely casual acquaintances like Rezko and Ayers and the church that completely bamboozled him for twenty years.

For example, his claim to be traumatized as a child by a picture in Life Magazine of a black man whose skin was damaged when he tried to bleach it. According to Obama, this incident demonstrated to him for the first time that racial prejudice existed. No such picture ever appeared in Life or in Ebony as some of his supporters also claimed.

For example, his Kenyan father was an itinerant goatherder. In actuality, he was an office worker (well to do by local standards), who paid a dowry of 14 cattle for his first wife.

For example, his story about how his father was moved to come to America by the speeches of JFK and RFK. Except that Obama Sr. came to America during the Eisenhower administration, taking advantage of a program signed into law by Eisenhower, not Kennedy.

Obama is a real-life example of a Manchurian Candidate, a man with no history, no record, no experience, no platform, and nothing going for him whatsoever other than good looks, a well-oiled political machine, and a great stump speech. The question isn't whether Hillary, or McCain, or Bush, or any number of other politicians tell lies. The question is do you want a complete cipher like Obama whose history is riddled with lies, misstatements, doubletalk, and retractions, and about whom no one can say anthing positive other than about his carefully crafted image and unquestioned speechmaking abilities to be the President of this country.

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#31 Post by jarnon » Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:00 pm

I, too, supported Hillary in the primary, and never heard of Obama until 2004. But since so many Democratic bigwigs, including longtime Clinton associates, have promoted his candidacy, they must believe that he can win, and that he isn't a Marxist, Islamic radical, or any other kind of anti-American. I don't think he could have snookered them all.

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#32 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:06 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:about whom no one can say anthing positive other than about his carefully crafted image and unquestioned speechmaking abilities to be the President of this country.
I, for one, don't find him to be all that great of a speaker. For me, substance matters as much as style, and there's very little, if any, substance to Obama's speeched.

His style gets tedious after about two hearings, too.
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#33 Post by Tocqueville3 » Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:56 pm

I thought about posting this in a new thread and making the title Another Lying Democrat but didn't for two reasons:

1. Not all Democrats aren't liars.

2. I'm just a sweet little lady who would never do such a rude thing.

For SSS:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... refer=home

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