I'll believe its a crisis when peoples start acting

[Beebs52]

A mammogram, if you pay for it yourself, costs about $120.00. Certainly less expensive than one year's health insurance. And several organizations (Susan G Komen foundation, Planned Parenthood, CDC etc.) offer free or low-cost mammograms.

If breast cancer is a concern of yours, there is no excuse for not getting a mammogram.

I don't think that was ever an issue.

Someone (jai, I think) said above that uninsured people don't get the necessary tests.

Oops. I guess you're right. I was interpreting it as applying to me personally.

There also are those who carry insurance who don't get necessary tests, because they're afraid, they've had too many in the past, etc. Works both ways.

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

Last year, lawmakers excoriated the CEOs of the Big Three automakers for traveling to Washington, D.C., by private jet to attend a hearing about a possible bailout of their companies.
But apparently Congress is not philosophically averse to private air travel: At the end of July, the House approved nearly $200 million for the Air Force to buy three elite Gulfstream jets for ferrying top government officials and Members of Congress.
The Air Force had asked for one Gulfstream 550 jet (price tag: about $65 million) as part of an ongoing upgrade of its passenger air service.
But the House Appropriations Committee, at its own initiative, added to the 2010 Defense appropriations bill another $132 million for two more airplanes and specified that they be assigned to the D.C.-area units that carry Members of Congress, military brass and top government officials.
Because the Appropriations Committee viewed the additional aircraft as an expansion of an existing Defense Department program, it did not treat the money for two more planes as an earmark, and the legislation does not disclose which Member had requested the additional money.

http://www.rollcall.com/issues/55_19/news/37552-1.html

update and correction

$500 Million Slated for Purchase of Eight More Planes as Lawmakers' Travel Soars

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124960404730212955.html

Executive travel for the legislature

[wintergreen48]

Last year, lawmakers excoriated the CEOs of the Big Three automakers for traveling to Washington, D.C., by private jet to attend a hearing about a possible bailout of their companies.
But apparently Congress is not philosophically averse to private air travel: At the end of July, the House approved nearly $200 million for the Air Force to buy three elite Gulfstream jets for ferrying top government officials and Members of Congress.
The Air Force had asked for one Gulfstream 550 jet (price tag: about $65 million) as part of an ongoing upgrade of its passenger air service.
But the House Appropriations Committee, at its own initiative, added to the 2010 Defense appropriations bill another $132 million for two more airplanes and specified that they be assigned to the D.C.-area units that carry Members of Congress, military brass and top government officials.
Because the Appropriations Committee viewed the additional aircraft as an expansion of an existing Defense Department program, it did not treat the money for two more planes as an earmark, and the legislation does not disclose which Member had requested the additional money.

http://www.rollcall.com/issues/55_19/news/37552-1.html

update and correction

$500 Million Slated for Purchase of Eight More Planes as Lawmakers' Travel Soars

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124960404730212955.html

Executive travel for the legislature

My favorite bit:

Geoff Morrell, the Pentagon press secretary, said the Department of Defense didn't request the additional planes and doesn't need them. "We ask for what we need and only what we need," he told reporters Wednesday. "We've always frowned upon earmarks and additives that are above and beyond what we ask for."

This constantly goes on, Congress authorizes (or re-authorizes) weapons systems that the military itself says are a waste of money, they seem to like to spend for the sake of spending.

Not to mention the hypocrisy involved.

[silverscreenselect]

My favorite bit:

Geoff Morrell, the Pentagon press secretary, said the Department of Defense didn't request the additional planes and doesn't need them. "We ask for what we need and only what we need," he told reporters Wednesday. "We've always frowned upon earmarks and additives that are above and beyond what we ask for."

This constantly goes on, Congress authorizes (or re-authorizes) weapons systems that the military itself says are a waste of money, they seem to like to spend for the sake of spending.

Not to mention the hypocrisy involved.

Which is why the Congressional Republicans' claims to support fiscal conservatism are so ridiculous. Over the years, Republicans have proved to be just as big spenders as Democrats. The only difference is the types of projects and spending they favor, which, not surprisingly dovetails quite nicely with the interests of the groups that support them heavily.

[MarleysGh0st]

This constantly goes on, Congress authorizes (or re-authorizes) weapons systems that the military itself says are a waste of money, they seem to like to spend for the sake of spending.

For the sake of spending in their districts!

Makes all the difference.

[NellyLunatic1980]

This constantly goes on, Congress authorizes (or re-authorizes) weapons systems that the military itself says are a waste of money, they seem to like to spend for the sake of spending.

For the sake of spending in their districts!

Makes all the difference.

Yep, it's all about the pork products.

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

biparitianship

House Minority Leader John Boehner of Ohio is leading five other lawmakers on a trip around the world. Sen. Richard Shelby (R., Ala.) is taking a group of senators and their spouses to Europe for three weeks. A spokesman for Mr. Boehner said he couldn't comment on the trip for security reasons. A spokeswoman for Mr. Shelby said the same.

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

An Inconvenient Question: The Age of Stupid NYC Premiere

Filmaker Phelim McAleer has posted a video of him asking tough question to enviro-celebrities at the premiere of Age of Stupid, a movie whose premise is that flying is the single greatest contributor to global warming. His question: did you take a plane to get to the premiere? The results are predictable.

[SportsFan68]

biparitianship

House Minority Leader John Boehner of Ohio is leading five other lawmakers on a trip around the world. Sen. Richard Shelby (R., Ala.) is taking a group of senators and their spouses to Europe for three weeks. A spokesman for Mr. Boehner said he couldn't comment on the trip for security reasons. A spokeswoman for Mr. Shelby said the same.

This made me laugh. A while back, the local volunteer fire dept. used some equipment for a non-fire, non-rescue, non-training, non-fire-department-related-of-any-kind use. They said it was "an approved training exercise" when someone called them on it.

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

Spoiler

just be glad pandas weren't on the menu

[MarleysGh0st]

Alaska House, New York?

How can a house get so lost?

[Snaxx]

Alaska House, New York?

Where else?

Everything is in New York.

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/heat- ... e/231802/0

He heads the global panel that just won the Nobel for raising the heat on global warming but over the years Dr R K Pachauri has quietly been making a mark in a different field, with a different team —Delhi’s corporate cricket league, as an all-rounder for TERI which he heads.

Pachauri has 345 wickets to his credit in the world of corporate cricket and at 67, he says, “In this crazy world, cricket gives me sanity.”

So strong is his love for cricket that his colleagues recall the time the Nobel winner took a break during a seminar in New York and flew in to Delhi over the weekend to attend a practice session for a match before flying back. Again, he flew in for a day, just to play that match.

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

You know I had to post this.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenh ... edges.html

On a normal day, Majken Friss Jorgensen, managing director of Copenhagen's biggest limousine company, says her firm has twelve vehicles on the road. During the "summit to save the world", which opens here tomorrow, she will have 200.

"We thought they were not going to have many cars, due to it being a climate convention," she says. "But it seems that somebody last week looked at the weather report."
Ms Jorgensen reckons that between her and her rivals the total number of limos in Copenhagen next week has already broken the 1,200 barrier. The French alone rang up on Thursday and ordered another 42. "We haven't got enough limos in the country to fulfil the demand," she says. "We're having to drive them in hundreds of miles from Germany and Sweden."

And the total number of electric cars or hybrids among that number? "Five," says Ms Jorgensen. "The government has some alternative fuel cars but the rest will be petrol or diesel. We don't have any hybrids in Denmark, unfortunately, due to the extreme taxes on those cars. It makes no sense at all, but it's very Danish."

The airport says it is expecting up to 140 extra private jets during the peak period alone, so far over its capacity that the planes will have to fly off to regional airports – or to Sweden – to park, returning to Copenhagen to pick up their VIP passengers.

[Beebs52]

They don't have any bikes with snowtires or chains?

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

Bloomberg defended traveling to the conference in his private jet, which critics charge makes him a polluter.
"The bottom line is a small amount of pollution gets me here and hopefully we can convince a lot of people to make a big difference," he said.
Bloomberg traveled with a photographer, an advance person, his spokesman, a deputy mayor and one of his environmental officials.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/poll ... z0Zs27TXSV

[Estonut]

You know I had to post this.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenh ... edges.html

On a normal day, Majken Friss Jorgensen, managing director of Copenhagen's biggest limousine company, says her firm has twelve vehicles on the road. During the "summit to save the world", which opens here tomorrow, she will have 200.

"We thought they were not going to have many cars, due to it being a climate convention," she says. "But it seems that somebody last week looked at the weather report."
Ms Jorgensen reckons that between her and her rivals the total number of limos in Copenhagen next week has already broken the 1,200 barrier. The French alone rang up on Thursday and ordered another 42. "We haven't got enough limos in the country to fulfil the demand," she says. "We're having to drive them in hundreds of miles from Germany and Sweden."

And the total number of electric cars or hybrids among that number? "Five," says Ms Jorgensen. "The government has some alternative fuel cars but the rest will be petrol or diesel. We don't have any hybrids in Denmark, unfortunately, due to the extreme taxes on those cars. It makes no sense at all, but it's very Danish."

The airport says it is expecting up to 140 extra private jets during the peak period alone, so far over its capacity that the planes will have to fly off to regional airports – or to Sweden – to park, returning to Copenhagen to pick up their VIP passengers.

And all those vehicles are idling to keep them warm inside...

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

The National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) in Boulder, CO has commissioned a new supercomputer project of their own: The NCAR-Wyoming Supercomputing Center (NWSC)

Measuring 108,000 square feet in total with 15,000-20,000 square feet of raised floor, it will be built for 8 megawatts of power, with 4-5 megawatts for computing and 3-4 for cooling.

Of course if your are going to run a computer system that uses 8 megawatts where you gonna put it?

Coal-fired power plants produce almost 95% of the electricity generated in Wyoming. Wyoming’s average retail price of electricity is 5.27 cents per kilowatt hour, the 2nd lowest rate in the nation

Well what to you expect, you can run these things with windmills.

[Bob Juch]

The National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) in Boulder, CO has commissioned a new supercomputer project of their own: The NCAR-Wyoming Supercomputing Center (NWSC)

Measuring 108,000 square feet in total with 15,000-20,000 square feet of raised floor, it will be built for 8 megawatts of power, with 4-5 megawatts for computing and 3-4 for cooling.

Of course if your are going to run a computer system that uses 8 megawatts where you gonna put it?

Coal-fired power plants produce almost 95% of the electricity generated in Wyoming. Wyoming’s average retail price of electricity is 5.27 cents per kilowatt hour, the 2nd lowest rate in the nation

Well what to you expect, you can run these things with windmills.

Of course Wyoming uses coal to generate most of the electricity there. The coal has to travel a shorter distance and what else would they have to use except wind and nuclear. They export the majority of what's produced there.

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

Thanks for that explination I wouldn't have figured that out on my own. However the thread headers are as important here as the category titles on J! The point I was trying to make and let me dumb it down for you. If you are in charge of a supercomputer for running climate models you don't run them off of coal if you think co2 is poison and coal will.be taxed out of existance because there is a real crisis .

[Bob Juch]

Thanks for that explination I wouldn't have figured that out on my own. However the thread headers are as important here as the category titles on J! The point I was trying to make and let me dumb it down for you. If you are in charge of a supercomputer for running climate models you don't run them off of coal if you think co2 is poison and coal will.be taxed out of existance because there is a real crisis .

From their website:

Maximum energy efficiency, LEED certification, and achievement of the smallest possible carbon footprint are all goals of the NWSC project.

How would they have a choice of where they got their electricity from? There's only one local electric company.

[smilergrogan]

The point I was trying to make and let me dumb it down for you.

I can't conceive how that's possible.

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

The point I was trying to make and let me dumb it down for you.

I can't conceive how that's possible.

I didn't think so either, but I gave you and Bob to much credit. So I will keep it very simple. There is NO reason NONE, to put the climate modeling energy hogging supercomputer in Wyoming, I don't care how many energy savings lightbulbs you put in the building it still.draws EIGHT MEGAWATTS of coal fired electricity if you put it there.

[Thousandaire]

The point I was trying to make and let me dumb it down for you.

I can't conceive how that's possible.

I didn't think so either, but I gave you and Bob to much credit. So I will keep it very simple. There is NO reason NONE, to put the climate modeling energy hogging supercomputer in Wyoming, I don't care how many energy savings lightbulbs you put in the building it still.draws EIGHT MEGAWATTS of coal fired electricity if you put it there.

Let's put this in perspective. Just one power plant (Jim Bridger) in Wyoming produces 8,440 megawatts. 8 megawatts of demand is hardly going to produce more CO2.

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

I can't conceive how that's possib

I didn't think so either, but I gave you and Bob to much credit. So I will keep it very simple. There is NO reason NONE, to put the climate modeling energy hogging supercomputer in Wyoming, I don't care how many energy savings lightbulbs you put in the building it still.draws EIGHT MEGAWATTS of coal fired electricity if you put it there.

Let's put this in perspective. Just one power plant (Jim Bridger) in Wyoming produces 8,440 megawatts. 8 megawatts of dem

and is hardly going to produce more CO2.

Thanks 1K for clearing that up if I had realized that the Wyoming coal fired power plant could produce that 8 megawatts without producing co2 I wouldn't have posted this story in this thread.