flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2026 7:24 pm
Then could you explain to me what those objectives and strategy are? Because since my mind is not rational, to me, it seems like we are getting involved in an imbroglio of regime change like the ones we got ourselves involved in Iraq and Afghanistan. What is the end game here?
I think our President, who has been the most open, honest and available President of our lifetime has laid it out very plainly for those who actually listen to what he says. He will not allow Iran to have the ability to threaten us, or anyone else, with nuclear weapons. This term, with Iran being so much closer to their dream of nuclear weapons and the ability to launch them further than ever before, our President took extraordinary action to prevent them from obtaining them. Even then, he tried diplomacy and negotiation. But that didn't work.This regime has been proclaiming they want 'Death to America and Israel' for half a century. Trump did the equivelent of reading and understanding Mein Kampf and preventing Hitler from invading Poland.
The objective is crystal clear to anyone that does not have a severe case of TDS. The strategy has, I'm sure, been worked out by the best military minds we have and is in the process of being carried out. And only very stupid military leaders, like the kind relied upon by democrat leaders, are going to tell us exactly what the strategy is, lest the enemy prepare for it. If you are upset that you don't know exactly what they are planning to do, too bad.
We did not launch missiles at other country's civilian populations at random with no provocation. They did. We did not sponsor hundreds of terrorists to slaughter, rape and mutilate thousands of men, women and children and film and celebrate doing so. They did. They have been telling us and demonstrating for decades what they want to do and showing us they are willing to do it. This has got to stop at some point. Will it end in WWIII? I think it certainly might have whether we did what we are involved in now, or whether we did nothing, like we have been doing for decades.
So, again I ask you. We are in this situation whether anyone likes it or not. Who do you want to win this conflict, and what are you willing to do to help achieve that?
The possible end-game is a Free Iran, where the citizens can be free of a repressive, brutal government, and a peaceful middle east. And the World can be free of threats from radical terror.
Got it?
Some comments from our Bored Favorite Trump Truth Sayer when the war started. So, now that there's a pause, let's see where things stand:
-- Bunches of Iranian planes, ships, and rockets destroyed, but they still have capabilities to strike other Gulf countries and shoot down American planes.
-- 86-year old Ayatollah dead, along with many other Iranian leaders. Replaced by Ayatollah's son and other younger leaders. Concensus is that new regime is more hardline than the old.
-- 13 US troops killed, over 100 wounded or injured. Several planes destroyed, including a half dozen planes and helicopters lost in the rescue mission of the downed pilot, plus over one billion dollars a day spent.
-- Various Iranian schools and other civilian buildings destroyed, hundreds of dead Iranian civilians.
-- Iranian counterstrikes damage several neighboring Gulf States countries.
-- Iranian oil that was formerly embargoed has been temporarily greenlighted, earning substantial money for Iranians.
-- Strait of Hormuz, which was open before the war, is now closed and part of negotiations for conditions to reopen, with Iran collecting tolls from ships that pass through.
-- Negotiations between US and Iran, which ended when the war started, may resume at somewhat the same positions as before.
-- Whatever the status of Iran's nuclear program was, it's pretty much exactly the same now.
-- Public support in Iran solidly behind new regime in a rally-round-the flag response as ordinary Iranians angry at US for causing death and destruction. Level of dissent virtually non-existent.
-- Relations between US and NATO allies damaged after Trump blamed them for not helping him.
-- Price of oil nearly doubled, with prices of other commodities and products dependent on oil up substantially. Months at best before prices subside to pre-war levels.
-- Trump crows and gloats daily (Hegseth also) about wonderful US military victories, then alternates between making threats to bomb Iran back to the Stone Age and chickening out, claiming a "more reasonable" Iranian regime had seen the light.
Have I missed anything? I certainly feel much better that we can't pay money to provide healthcare for our own population but we can spend billions to kill Iranian schoolchildren and make Trump and Hegseth feel good about blowing things up. And that we are so much safer now than a few weeks ago. Certainly, our wallets are in better shape.
